[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Darield

I am amazed that Florida still allows the use of plastic bags in grocery stores. So many other states have banned it. We now have microplastics (very small plastic particles) in our agriculture soil, ocean and just about anywhere you can think of. There are so many studies that verify the dangers of plastics and I cringe every time I go to the grocery store and see 10-20-30 plastic bags per cart. Just one Publics said they can go through thousands of plastic bags in a day. Here is one link that talks about how serious this problem has gotten. It's our new DDT.How microplastics are infiltrating the food you eat . There are now studies beiing done of earthworms ingesting micro-plastics. ScienceDirect

I'm amazed that "other states" ban them. And by "other states" I assume it's California (no surprise there). Thank God Florida has some rational lawmakers. The Graduate, 1967, "I want to say one word to you, Benjamin. Just one word.---Plastics"
Or more germane to that post, "Chicken Little, the sky is falling"

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

If they are a volunteer, why would they expect a tip? And why do you feel obligated to offer one? Very generous of you, but seems contrary to the spirit of volunteer work.

If you don't tip, you can't go on message boards and tell everyone how much you tip!
Actually, you could. Makes one wonder how much virtue signaling is made up.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

If you don't tip, you can't go on message boards and tell everyone how much you tip!
Actually, you could. Makes one wonder how much virtue signaling is made up.

Like the OP?????

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by Darield

I am amazed that Florida still allows the use of plastic bags in grocery stores. ... every time I go to the grocery store and see 10-20-30 plastic bags per cart. ]

1. People can bring their own bags to the store.
2. They can also stop nosing around with what other people are doing.


Virtue signaling & living a happier life.

[Gpsma]

But how can we pick up dog and cat poop without plastic bags!!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

But how can we pick up dog and cat poop without plastic bags!!

Good point.

Also without plastic bags, how would we carry all the food that is packaged in plastic?
The plastic bag weighs about 6 grams, but can hold 1000x its own weight. You can eliminate a few grams of plastic by bringing a reusable bag, but I don't think anyone wants to be buying their groceries in a reused (not recycled, reused) package

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

But how can we pick up dog and cat poop without plastic bags!!

You should be using the bags that the Daily Sun comes in every day for the dogs. That's good for at least 1 poop every day!

I do re-use those plastic grocery bags to clean the little box for my cat. And I use an unscented clay-based litter, which makes the litter itself biodegradable and non-toxic to the environment (the cat's waste is - toxic. But the litter is not).

If I didn't have a cat, I'd always use re-usable bags I bring from home (I have several and do use the thermal one often).

Also, Publix has bins where you can toss your unwanted plastic bags, and they recycle them. Their green plastic hand-baskets are made out of recycled plastic too.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

You should be using the bags that the Daily Sun comes in every day for the dogs. That's good for at least 1 poop every day!

I do re-use those plastic grocery bags to clean the little box for my cat. And I use an unscented clay-based litter, which makes the litter itself biodegradable and non-toxic to the environment (the cat's waste is - toxic. But the litter is not).

If I didn't have a cat, I'd always use re-usable bags I bring from home (I have several and do use the thermal one often).

Also, Publix has bins where you can toss your unwanted plastic bags, and they recycle them. Their green plastic hand-baskets are made out of recycled plastic too.

Your cat's waste is toxic???? I suppose it is if he has Toxoplasma gondii. Otherwise, I doubt it amounts to much compared to many thousands of lions and tigers and bears (oh my, oh my)

[Velvet]

OP you are talking about the “dark ages”. I prefer plastic bags, especially if they are burnt in the garbage and reduce our energy bill. True recycling. Not only are plastic bags hygienic and convenient but I use them for all kinds of things at home that I can’t use paper bags for. I think we’ve got it right, here. The Villages is again ahead of everybody.

[Kenswing]

What’s the point of getting rid of plastic bags when so many of the products we put in those bags are in plastic containers? If it makes you feel better putting all those plastic containers in a paper bag go for it.

[frayedends]

We have towns in MA that don’t allow plastic bags. So they put my laundry detergent (plastic jug), produce (plastic bags), vegetable oil (plastic container) and everything else packaged in plastic into a weak paper bag that’s hard to carry and tears open.

Not to mention, our eyeglasses are plastic, our shoes, our clothes, desks, cars have tons of plastic, computers are plastic, k-cups are plastic, aluminum cans are lined with plastic, windows, siding, picture frames, plugs. It's in everything.

I think plastic is a big problem. I just don’t see supermarket bags doing much at all.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

It’s not just plastic bags it’s all plastics. We have abandoned recycling in The Villages opting to burn plastics trash to energy.

But.......isn't burning trash to energy still recycling? The trash is recycled into energy. Isn't that STILL recycling the trash?

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

But.......isn't burning trash to energy still recycling? The trash is recycled into energy. Isn't that STILL recycling the trash?

Not everybody studied science…

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

All Villages trash is transported to the Covanta Lake II, Inc. Energy from Waste (EfW) facility in Okahumpka, Florida where it is burned and turned into energy. This plant produces enough electricity to power more than one million homes annually, while reducing the amount of methane, a greenhouse gas that would otherwise be produced by the trash going to landfills and that is more than 28 times as potent as carbon dioxide at trapping heat in the atmosphere, to zero. The site diverts 21 million tons of waste annually from landfills, while at the same time recycling 1.1 million tons of material, of which 550,000 tons are metals, annually. It does this in an essentially clean manner: Over 99.9 percent of what is discharged into the air is what is typically find in air - water vapor, nitrogen, oxygen, and carbon dioxide. The remaining constituents are well below federal and state standards. (from the Covanta website).

Looks as if our plastics are being put to very good use.

You took the words right out of my mouth. That is clean recycling. I still don't understand why people make comments that The Villages does not recycle anymore.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I'm amazed that "other states" ban them. And by "other states" I assume it's California (no surprise there). Thank God Florida has some rational lawmakers. The Graduate, 1967, "I want to say one word to you, Benjamin. Just one word.---Plastics"
Or more germane to that post, "Chicken Little, the sky is falling"

I think of that line from "The Graduate" every single time anyone brings up the subject of how damaging plastics are to our universe. It makes me chuckle.