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Foxtrot 08-31-2020 11:05 AM

Gun laws were started by Democrats to keep guns out of the hands of freed slaves.

Neils 08-31-2020 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1825519)
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This is an ANONYMOUS POLL. Will not be tracked by responder etc.

With all the unrest going on in the USA currently and possibly into the future-

What is YOUR personal position on OWNING A FIREARM?

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More click bait. Ignore it. If you want to keep your family safe then get a gun and learn to use it safely.

Chitown 08-31-2020 11:08 AM

Interesting topic. Anyone who has ever lived in a big city knows that as much as you may love and support your police officers when a home invasion is in progress you have seconds to react and grab your gun before your door is either kicked in or pryed open with a steel crow bar. Calling 911 talking to a dispatcher, dispatching the call and finally the police response may take 8-10 minutes. I want everyone to take a look at your leni’s if you have a screened in Leni like me, A razor or screw driver will punch through the screen like butter without a sound. And that cheep latch on your glass sliding doors is nothing. The same with the front door. A crowbar will pop that door open in 5 seconds. I wouldn’t be caught dead without at least one loaded handgun in the house.

sloanst 08-31-2020 11:11 AM

This is a typical argument posed by gun control advocates. Why compare Massachusetts to Florida and no other state? Because you cherry picked data that would satisfy your position. Why limit your data from 2007 to 2018. Why not use data from 1997 or 1987? Because you cherry picked data to satisfy your argument. Do you know what that is called? LYING.

Jayhawk 08-31-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackhawksFan (Post 1825940)
I don't own any weapons, never have, never will but if someone else does that's fine with me as long as they're owned legallly, safely stored in a locking gun box or safe, licensed to have a gun and keep proficient in the skill should they ever need to use it.

While I can appreciate your sentiment, a gun stored and locked in a safe is completely useless. The Bad Guy isn't going to give you time to unlock the safe. No different than carrying a gun with no ammo. Useless.

Neils 08-31-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 1825807)
I am fully in support of the Second Amendment as it would properly be interpreted by strict originalists on the Supreme Court (of which, some claim to be but, in reality, none are).

By that I mean, any citizen should be allowed to own as many muzzle loading rifles as they wish (since that was really the only weapon available when the Bill of Rights was adopted). Citizens can also own as many muzzle loading cannons as they wish. But, as to any other gun, rifle or armament, absolutlely not. No other guns should be allowed under an originalist's view of the Second Amendment. All armaments other than muzzle loaders should be confiscated and after a reasonable time for compliance, the owners should be prosecuted. There is NO need for anyone to possess or use the type of weaponry now available.

So that means that your first amendment right must be limited to only communication methods available at that time. No text, phone, internet posts, electronic bullhorns, etc.
Communist supporting posters should be prosecuted and not claim 1st amendment rights

Jayhawk 08-31-2020 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1826090)
Interesting topic. Anyone who has ever lived in a big city knows that as much as you may love and support your police officers when a home invasion is in progress you have seconds to react and grab your gun before your door is either kicked in or pryed open with a steel crow bar. Calling 911 talking to a dispatcher, dispatching the call and finally the police response may take 8-10 minutes. I want everyone to take a look at your leni’s if you have a screened in Leni like me, A razor or screw driver will punch through the screen like butter without a sound. And that cheep latch on your glass sliding doors is nothing. The same with the front door. A crowbar will pop that door open in 5 seconds. I wouldn’t be caught dead without at least one loaded handgun in the house.

Completely agree, and I'm not even from Chitown. :coolsmiley:

bob47 08-31-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1825872)
Yes they are and so are knives, baseball bats, a length of pipe, motor vehicles, ladders, a crowbar, a hammer, and a whole lot of other things.

That's true. But you know what? A baseball bat or a knife doesn't have the ability to maim or kill somebody 100 yards away on the other side of Spanish Springs town square.

sloanst 08-31-2020 11:25 AM

FYI, It is illegal in the State of Florida to possess a concealed firearm within 15 feet of a bar (where alcohol is being dispensed). So, if you witness this, by all means dial 911. I will support you. Alcohol and guns do not belong together. Period.

Rebel Pirate 08-31-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 1825807)
I am fully in support of the Second Amendment as it would properly be interpreted by strict originalists on the Supreme Court (of which, some claim to be but, in reality, none are).

By that I mean, any citizen should be allowed to own as many muzzle loading rifles as they wish (since that was really the only weapon available when the Bill of Rights was adopted). Citizens can also own as many muzzle loading cannons as they wish. But, as to any other gun, rifle or armament, absolutlely not. No other guns should be allowed under an originalist's view of the Second Amendment. All armaments other than muzzle loaders should be confiscated and after a reasonable time for compliance, the owners should be prosecuted. There is NO need for anyone to possess or use the type of weaponry now available.

Similarly, I support the first amendment:

1. When the Bill of Rights was adopted, the only means of written communication was by printing single-sheets individually following hand-setting type.

2. When the Bill of Rights was adopted, the only way to 'peaceably assemble' was in person.

3. When the Bill of Rights was adopted, the only way to petition the government was to get hand-written signatures on pieces of paper hand-carried from one person to the next.

1a. So, let's get rid of off-set printing, lithograph printing, computers, fax machines, email, texting, social media, etc.

2a. So, let's get rid of telephones that enable teleconferencing, and computers that enable 'zoom'-meeting, etc.

3a. So, let's get rid of (again) any of that fancy-schmancy new-fangled communication equipment that makes collecting signatures more efficient.

I've seen this suggestion before (citizens can own a blunderbuss only) and it's just as silly as 1, 2, 3, 1a, 2a, 3a above. There's a difference between a principle and the instantiation of a principle. But, many people prefer keeping things simple beyond the point of being ridiculous.

sloanst 08-31-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1826086)
I for one would LOVE to see your proof of the "facts" and assertions you provided above.

Please share.

Yeah, that person :MOJE_whot: has no idea what they are talking about.

sloanst 08-31-2020 11:40 AM

Hunting isn't about the weapon, it is about the skill. Finding, patterning and getting close enough to accurately harvest the animal humanely is much more difficult than you believe. Otherwise, you are just walking in the woods with something in your hand.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 08-31-2020 11:50 AM

Let’s just talk about whose safer again
 
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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1826086)
I for one would LOVE to see your proof of the "facts" and assertions you provided above.

Please share.

2007 to 2018 gun deaths per 100,000 fl ranked 9th , Massachusetts 49th , 2018 gun deaths fl 2,802, Massachusetts with very dense population 258 Florida easy to get gun mass not so much whose safer that’s all I’m interested in

charlieo1126@gmail.com 08-31-2020 11:53 AM

Where are those communist
 
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Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1826085)
Suggest that people need to be tested and pay for a license to post pro-communist propaganda.

Strange that dome of those people that demand respect of the 1st amendment rights can so willingly ignore our 2nd amendment rights.

I’ll destroy all there reputations signe joe McCarthy

SacDQ 08-31-2020 12:04 PM

I never take POLLS , nor due I talk to strangers about my personal Opinions.


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