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EdFNJ 08-31-2020 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1826221)
What is your point? People break laws all the time, so let's confine everyone to their home so they can't commit unlawful deeds.

:coolsmiley: Exactly what I meant. **NOT** But nice try. ;)

Kayakguy 08-31-2020 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1825736)
It's okay, I don't have a skateboard any more.

I once borrowed my teen's skateboard to try it on our hilly street. Accelerating to warp speeds, when i fell i kicked the board ahead. Skidding across the street it jumped the curb, where my neighbor was planting flowers at the mailbox. Missed her head by only a foot and careened down their driveway. Her husband picked it up, walked back to me where I was still laying in the street. He handed it to me without a word. I never tried a skateboard again.

GreySkies 08-31-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 1826106)
That's true. But you know what? A baseball bat or a knife doesn't have the ability to maim or kill somebody 100 yards away on the other side of Spanish Springs town square.

Totally false!

ANY object thrown with the correct amount of velocity and accuracy has the potential to maim or kill someone 100 yards away. How about if you stand 100 yards in front of me and let me drive a golf ball in your general direction as validation to your hypothesis?

EdFNJ 08-31-2020 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1826348)
Why would you put a mask on a gun? :duck:

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1826354)
Only if you’re entering 7-11 or gas station :ho:

Yea maybe, but if you had to use it to protect yourself it would make it useless because it would have a hole in it and powder burns.

mtdjed 08-31-2020 08:30 PM

[QUOTE=OrangeBlossomBaby;1825961]Actually no, it bestows those rights on a well-regulated Militia.

Actually wrong. The rights are given to the people.

“A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

This amendment has been subject to a lot of discussion over the years but at this time is still interpreted as being the right of the people. There are many arguments saying otherwise. If people want change, they need to encourage those who are the change agents. Change does not get impacted by inferring that opinion is fact.

Read2know 08-31-2020 11:15 PM

The Constitution ?
 
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Originally Posted by Garylj24 (Post 1825752)
The constitution should be the only thing I need to carry, our forefathers new that.

Dear Gary:
The US Constitution does Not say you can carry a gun. The Second Amendment
does Not say you can own a gun. Here is the quote from the second Amendment :
" A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

When the Second Amendment was written on or about 1789. The USA did not have a standing army and had to depend upon a volunteer's. That is why the Second Amendment states that a, " A well regulated Militia, being necessary ..."
Of course every able bodied man was free to have a gun.
I my humble opinion, our U. S. Supreme Court got it wrong in the District of Columbia v. Heller in 2008. My point is we no longer need a Militia because we have a National Guard and approximately 18,000 Law Enforcement agencies.
It the U.S. now there are 103 people killed every day by guns and and another 210 people which get gunshot injuries. There are to many guns on the street now.
It is my hope that someday our Supreme Court will overturn DC v. Heller.

mtdjed 09-01-2020 08:31 AM

[QUOTE=Read2know;1826433]Dear Gary:
The US Constitution does Not say you can carry a gun. The Second Amendment
does Not say you can own a gun. Here is the quote from the second Amendment :

" A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

When the Second Amendment was written on or about 1789. The USA did not have a standing army and had to depend upon a volunteer's. That is why the Second Amendment states that a, " A well regulated Militia, being necessary ..."
Of course every able bodied man was free to have a gun.


Again opinion stated as fact. "does Not say". Your argument could be considered a reason for the people to have the right to keep and bear arms.

Also, your conclusion adds requirements not stated -- "able bodied" and "man".

Number 10 GI 09-01-2020 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Read2know (Post 1826433)
Dear Gary:
The US Constitution does Not say you can carry a gun. The Second Amendment
does Not say you can own a gun. Here is the quote from the second Amendment :
" A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

When the Second Amendment was written on or about 1789. The USA did not have a standing army and had to depend upon a volunteer's. That is why the Second Amendment states that a, " A well regulated Militia, being necessary ..."
Of course every able bodied man was free to have a gun.
I my humble opinion, our U. S. Supreme Court got it wrong in the District of Columbia v. Heller in 2008. My point is we no longer need a Militia because we have a National Guard and approximately 18,000 Law Enforcement agencies.
It the U.S. now there are 103 people killed every day by guns and and another 210 people which get gunshot injuries. There are to many guns on the street now.
It is my hope that someday our Supreme Court will overturn DC v. Heller.

Do you not see the word "people"? Doesn't say the right of the militia to keep and bear arms will not be infringed, it says the people's right will not be infringed.

Number 10 GI 09-01-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Read2know (Post 1826433)
Dear Gary:
The US Constitution does Not say you can carry a gun. The Second Amendment
does Not say you can own a gun. Here is the quote from the second Amendment :
" A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

When the Second Amendment was written on or about 1789. The USA did not have a standing army and had to depend upon a volunteer's. That is why the Second Amendment states that a, " A well regulated Militia, being necessary ..."
Of course every able bodied man was free to have a gun.
I my humble opinion, our U. S. Supreme Court got it wrong in the District of Columbia v. Heller in 2008. My point is we no longer need a Militia because we have a National Guard and approximately 18,000 Law Enforcement agencies.
It the U.S. now there are 103 people killed every day by guns and and another 210 people which get gunshot injuries. There are to many guns on the street now.
It is my hope that someday our Supreme Court will overturn DC v. Heller.

Wrong on the standing army. The Congress of the Confederation established the United States Army on 3 Jun 1784.

Taltarzac725 09-01-2020 08:59 AM

Had a bunch of rifles and shotguns acquired while growing up in Reno, Nevada but stopped using these by 1982. Sold most of these to a Santa Rosa, CA pawn shop in 1994 or thereabouts to get money to get many snail mail letters out about my work to get libraries of all kinds in the US and elsewhere involved in creating a nexus for survivors/victims of crimes. Also sold art books to Santa Rosa, CA used book stores for the same reason.

This project of mine was brought about by experiences I had in Reno, Nevada while dealing with the 2-24-1976 murder of Michelle Mitchell near the University of Nevada, Reno campus. 2-24 is my birthday and Michelle's mother was my Earl Wooster HS English teacher at that time. The Mitchell family had given me a very small Memorial Scholarship in 1976-1977 in Michelle's name. She had been murdered with a knife by a person that was not "caught" until 1979. And it turned out they got the wrong person back in 1979 due to facts that came to light in 2014.They did identify the most likely murderer in 2014 which turned out to be a serial killer who had preyed on women in the SF Bay area in early 1976.

Bad people use all kinds of weapons-- knives, bombs, cars, bats, hammers, etc.

Do have a problem with the rate of fire coming from some firearms though. These should only be in the hands of the military.

Number 10 GI 09-01-2020 09:05 AM

I don't know why it is so hard for some people to understand that if someone wants something illegal there is a criminal organization that will provide it to them. Heroin, cocaine, etc., are readily available in the smallest towns in the country. You can also purchase firearms illegally nearly everywhere so how would banning guns work????? Tons of drugs are smuggled into this country every year so why couldn't guns be smuggled in? The person needing a gun to commit a crime will always be able to get one, the only ones that will comply with a ban are the honest citizens. It only takes a little bit of logical thought to understand.

DeanFL 09-01-2020 10:55 AM

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I'm the OP.

1. Must say quite surprised of the poll results so far. 81% OWN or WOULD OWN a firearm. I expected that % to be about 65% or so. Not a scientic poll of course, but still...

2. Personally I am in the "WouldOwn" camp. Never owned a firearm - no need in the past as to where we lived and concerns about safety travelling and at home etc. But IF this changed - would not be an issue to go to Shooters World, purchase, train, etc etc.

3. This said, I DID purchase a self defense alternative last week. I desire to feel safer in our car, in case 'trouble develops'. Bought a handheld Pepper Spray container to keep in the car door pocket JUST IN CASE. Will have this as a "Better safe than sorry" tool.

SABRE RED Crossfire Pepper Gel Spray with Belt Clip – 360-Degree Deployment, Maximum Police Strength Pepper Gel with Quick Access Flip Top, 18-foot (5.5 m) Range, 18 Bursts – Gel is Safer

Robot Check

Mumbles 09-01-2020 08:06 PM

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I lived in NH in the largest city up there when I was a young'un. I had to fight hard to get Mom to let me buy a .22 Winchester for target practice. Dad was OK with it. But, as you may know, NH was/is not an open carry or ANY carry state. I wasn't interested in the least to buy and wear a handgun anyway. Still won't do it. My observation is that a) there are many, many nut cases around us; b)most carriers of handguns in any state, except, perhaps Texas, do not take regular courses in sharp shooting, nor do they go out WEEKLY to target practice. ( if they had to face another deadly weapon say, about 30 - 50+ feet away, it would be a miracle if they were able to actually kill the opponent.) And c) I do not feel at all threatened by anybody around me at any time, and can only go by stats that say I have a hugely better chance of living if I DON'T carry.

Garwood1 09-01-2020 08:52 PM

Then by all means go , the biggest reason we have the United States was the patriots in 1776 had their weapons and fought the tyranny and if you want to leave feel free to go but me I’m an ancestor of those that bravely fought for freedom

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-01-2020 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Garwood1 (Post 1826944)
Then by all means go , the biggest reason we have the United States was the patriots in 1776 had their weapons and fought the tyranny and if you want to leave feel free to go but me I’m an ancestor of those that bravely fought for freedom

They fought against tyranny of an oppressive government (Britain). This country was settled by Europeans long before that though.

Meanwhile, you can all relax and not worry about guns anymore. Just buy a few cans of soup!


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