The Hateful Eight Targeted for Picketing by Retired NYC and Other Area Cops.

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If you don't like someone's posts, block them. It's like not listening. Don't tell them not to speak. I want to hear what everyone has to say. If I just listen to people think exactly like I won't learn anything.
I agree.

Unfortunately, some folks just like the controversy. No matter the subject. Some just take the opposite view to create a controversy. In re reading certain folks post history, you see a pattern. Everything is controversial. EVERYTHING.
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These is no place for name calling. It is what you do when you don't have facts and/or can't construct a compelling argument. It is not meaningful discussion. This was parodied over 25 years ago on the SNL skit "Point/Counterpoint" with Jane Curtin and Dan Akyroid. Jane would start off the debate with facts and then Dan would respond with "Jane, you ignorant slut".
Jane gave as good as she got. I forgot how funny they were.
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I could only find one of those skits.

Calling a public figure a name doesn't bother me. That's the price of fame. Loosing your anonymity is another price if you are really big. This is a fun watch and those subjects are discussed.
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Jane gave as good as she got. I forgot how funny they were.
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I could only find one of those skits.

Calling a public figure a name doesn't bother me. That's the price of fame. Loosing your anonymity is another price if you are really big. This is a fun watch and those subjects are discussed.
President Barack Obama - Just Tell Him You’re the President - Episode - Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee by Jerry Seinfeld
Thanks for the input. And it is really bad logic as well to attack the person rather than his ideas. And some of my favorite movies are Babe, Amelie Am, the Wizard of Oz and Singin' in the Rain.

I love movies and some of them are bloody. I wonder what kind of movies most copies like to see? I doubt if it is bloodless kids movies and musicals. Even if there are bloody kid's movies as well as bloody musicals.

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Thanks for the input. And it is really bad logic as well to attack the person rather than his ideas.
I don't know. When someone says "I am not a crook" and you think they are than I think it's OK to say so. Unless you believe they are not a crook they just had bad ideas about stealing.
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I don't know. When someone says "I am not a crook" and you think they are than I think it's OK to say so. Unless you believe they are not a crook they just had bad ideas about stealing.
That goes to someone's actions rather than their ideas. We will find out later if Quentin Tarantino, for instance, stole the idea of Django Unchained from someone else. I kind of doubt it but I do have an open mind. I have no idea what kind of person Tarantino really is and unless you know him personally most people do not know what a certain celebrity is like beyond the marketing campaigns that are around them as well as the politics.
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That goes to someone's actions rather than their ideas. We will find out later if Quentin Tarantino, for instance, stole the idea of Django Unchained from someone else. I kind of doubt it but I do have an open mind. I have no idea what kind of person Tarantino really is and unless you know him personally most people do not know what a certain celebrity is like beyond the marketing campaigns that are around them as well as the politics.
I forgot Tarrentino was being sued for theft. I'm always surprised when someone that is as wealthy as Tarrentino steels. I know, I'm being naive.
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It's a movie !
Right. Does not make much of a difference if we see it or not in the Villages as to Quentin Tarantino's bank account and/or reputation. It is doing quite well elsewhere considering competition from Star Wars: The Force Awakens and the length of this movie. ‘The Hateful Eight’ Box Office: Comparing to Other Tarantino Films | Variety
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I forgot Tarrentino was being sued for theft. I'm always surprised when someone that is as wealthy as Tarrentino steels. I know, I'm being naive.
I doubt seriously if they have any kind of case. I only have a course in Copyright Law at the University of Minnesota Law School but doubt if the black letter law in that area has changed all that much. And I probably took this around 1988 or 1989. I did graduate in the Summer of 1989 but wanted to be a Law Librarian and not a Lawyer. We as Law Librarians are not allowed to give legal advice just point people in the right direction so that they can find things on their own.

We also were taught a little bit about Copyright while I was getting a MA in Librarianship and Information Management at the University of Denver in 1983-1984.

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too bad there's so much controversy
we were pumped up by the fact it was specially shot in 70mm for a real nostalgic look and feel. 100 theaters, (6 in florida outside our bubble) around the US were specially retrofitted with special film projectors, not to mention the films themselves weigh several hundred lb, some 1/4 ton, for one movie.
hopefully for those who opt out, there will some other 70's that come along while the theaters still have the arc lamps burning!
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too bad there's so much controversy
we were pumped up by the fact it was specially shot in 70mm for a real nostalgic look and feel. 100 theaters, (6 in florida outside our bubble) around the US were specially retrofitted with special film projectors, not to mention the films themselves weigh several hundred lb, some 1/4 ton, for one movie.
hopefully for those who opt out, there will some other 70's that come along while the theaters still have the arc lamps burning!
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He is not a cop hater. Where do you kind that from what he has written or said? He attacked bad cops who abuse the law based partially on their racist views.

And "enjoy" is not the word I would use for experiencing Quentin Tarantino movies.

I have not the foggiest idea what you mean by swords crossing. I have NEVER had any problems with any police. I did play the student lawyer game with them in 1989 or 1988 while at the University of Minnesota Law School and Legal Assistance to Minnesota Prisoners. I was trying to get some records from their office about an incident in which my client alleged he was beaten. Instead of giving me the log of the day that my client was allegedly beaten they wanted me to give the time, date, and other particulars. My client could not remember the exact time and date when he was allegedly beaten so he dropped it. Whether or not he was actually beaten, I have no idea.

Is this a new trick of attacking other TOTVers credibility? Look at many of their posts and then make hasty over-generalizations about them?

Why not address the issue of what this thread is about rather than making ad hominem attacks on me?
Well said, I agree with you totally. Not that what I ever say on here matters much, which is why I have pretty much chosen to stay away. You are articulate and base your statements on fact. Thank you. I respect your input.
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Well said, I agree with you totally. Not that what I ever say on here matters much, which is why I have pretty much chosen to stay away. You are articulate and base your statements on fact. Thank you. I respect your input.
Thanks. I do try to dig to get into what actually happened. I have a BA in History so that training comes in useful at times. Also a second one in Philosophy, my first degree. (University of Nevada, Reno). So, we did study quite a lot of logic and rhetoric. Got more of this logic from my Law School Training at the U of MN Law School even if they did also throw in a lot of BS as well.

I know some retired cops from my neighborhood as well as Doggie Doo Run Run. They seem like reasonable people. I hope they looked into what actually happened rather than what some politician said happened for their political gain.
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