[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by Andyb

My wife is from WNC, we both went to App St. I can tell you from many friends and family in the area, that FEMA and government help is about non existent.
Samaritan Purse and Governor DeSantis has done more. They(government) is now limiting independent and citizens from helping and has closed down air space. Many people still missing. It is a lot worse than the MSM portrays. The best thing for you to do and help is give to SamaritanPurse.org.

That is just not true, but it is a right wing talking point on right wing "news" channels. The federal government had 1,000 first responders in place before the storms hit, and that he had approved emergency declarations as soon as he received the requests from the governors. Yesterday POTUS directed the Defense Department to move 1,000 soldiers to reinforce North Carolina’s National Guard to speed up the delivery of supplies like food, water, and medicine to isolated communities, some of which are accessible now only by pack mule.

I used to live there, there are so many people in remote areas...... and it's only been a week. The response has gotten bipartisan praise. Republican governors Henry McMaster of South Carolina and Glenn Youngkin of Virginia both thanked Biden by name for what McMaster called a “superb” response.

[asianthree]

Greenville SC still has substantial roads blocked with 100s of downed trees. Our son’s neighborhood and surrounding area main roads are still blocked, but have one road that had less damage. Road is narrow and winding, for large trucks will be a challenge.

No time frame of when the main road will be cleared, and some power and cell towers will be restored.

Search and rescue is still priority, with restoration of power to schools that can be used for shelters. FEMA should be entering into stage 3 activation and deployment of 6 stages.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

There's lots of information on it. You're not finding it because you're looking in the wrong places.

In fact, I came back from a trip to the southeast of Florida yesterday, and at the rest area, there were dozens of rescue teams returning to Miami from North Carolina. They went in and assisted the National Guard there for three days, and had to come home to attend to our own issues here in Florida.

There have been air drops, Georgia's governor spoke with the President, Harris met with the task force and FEMA to determine needs and implement procedures for the coming days and weeks.

Yes, these disaster areas need (and received and are still receiving) National Guard assistance from adjacent states. But this is the peak hurricane season and there are more hurricanes expected. The National Guard will be needed, rested, refreshed, and ready to move to other locations as well as the season continues.

In addition, Biden has authorized and ordered the DoD to send another 1000 soldiers to assist with food, water, and other commodities needed in the hardest-hit areas. The first few days had to be rescue - they had to get the survivors out. That was the #1 priority and anything else would've been in the way of those rescues.

Instead of reading the media, try checking with the actual White House press releases. They're giving daily accounting of everything they're doing, with names, numbers, totals, locations.

I said something political and it was removed.

FEMA is still in rescue mode. Right now. This minute. The damage is so extensive that it isn't a quick fix in any shape or form and can't be a quick fix if all the kings horses and all the kings men show up.

That said. I see all kinds of earth movers moving dirt and gangs of people helping with their own hands to search, move dirt and repair. People from the "private sector".

It isn't enough, and we are depleting the monies in FEMA and other governmental rescue organizations.

I will say that I can see clearly what AMERICA needs right now.

We should all find and support VALID rescue attempts with money since many of us Villagers are older and unable to physically help.

Every little bit helps.

Glittering generalities doesn't get the job done.

[kingofbeer]

Originally Posted by Regorp

But it took a week to show up and giving residents $750 while billions go overseas is a slap in the face to the hard working Americans who have lost everything. First to visit the area was President Trump as always. I pray for the victims of this disaster.

I hope the homeowners have homeowners insurance and flood insurance. That's what insurance is for. You can't expect the federal government to pay for the loss of your house.

[Decadeofdave]

North Carolina Disaster Relief Fund
20312 Mall Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699

Just passing along address for donations if you like.

[asianthree]

The area is so devastated, only search and rescue, military, fire/police/ first responders, power trucks, are in these areas. Red Cross is just able to put a toe in due to lack of open roads. As progress advances, and becomes safe, you will see other organizations arriving.

The only people that belong in a disaster area is those that can actually perform a service., to help those in need.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by MightyDog

Some questions:
1) Why don't you consider the possibility that the information is true?
2) Why would you instantly want to imply the commenter is a liar? That is a stunning assertion regarding someone you've never met.
3) Why would you assume a several hundred mile, mountainous region has suffered the exact same impacts as the parts that were low-elevation and experienced the extreme flooding destruction?

Three questions, direct answers appreciated.

I already answered the questions in the post you quoted.

If you have no cellular service, AND no internet service, AND no landline service, AND no SAT phone, THEN you have no way to communicate via cell phone to twitter. It's not possible.

IF they are able to communicate, THEN 1) their situation is either not what they're claiming it to be, OR 2) they aren't where they are claiming the situation to be. At least one of those two things has to be true.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by MightyDog

Some questions:
1) Why don't you consider the possibility that the information is true?
2) Why would you instantly want to imply the commenter is a liar? That is a stunning assertion regarding someone you've never met.
3) Why would you assume a several hundred mile, mountainous region has suffered the exact same impacts as the parts that were low-elevation and experienced the extreme flooding destruction?

Three questions, direct answers appreciated.

These search results might help.

The information is not true. The story is a lie.

Why would a mountainous region with rivers that overflowed after receiving 19+ inches of rain NOT experience the same impact as a low-elevation region with rivers that overflowed after receiving 19+ inches of rain? Mudslides or mud flows are both mud in the wrong place. Rushing water, upended trees, downed power lines all look the same in mountainous regions as the do in low-elevation regions.

[MightyDog]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I already answered the questions in the post you quoted.

If you have no cellular service, AND no internet service, AND no landline service, AND no SAT phone, THEN you have no way to communicate via cell phone to twitter. It's not possible.

IF they are able to communicate, THEN 1) their situation is either not what they're claiming it to be, OR 2) they aren't where they are claiming the situation to be. At least one of those two things has to be true.

I always allow (and hope) for genuine dialogue between people but, when they refuse to answer sincerely posed questions and don't pose any clarifying questions of their own -- there is nothing constructive happening.

I explained that terrain and how varied it is. Not hard to grasp for anyone who's been to mountainous regions. Also, the WNC local did not post that comment to X (Twitter) so full comprehension of the contents of that link is missing.

It is always mystifying to me when some chose to dispute information when they are in no position to do so. There is simply no point in doing so. Let facts and reality reveal themselves.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by MightyDog

I don't know if the info is true or not and never claimed to. Yet, you claim it is not true but, cannot not possibly prove that. So, why would you make the claim? The search links are not proof of anything and everyone should know that. Where is a statement from the US Govt?


That statement is 100% untrue and defies basic reasoning. Simply, wow.

No, the links are not proof of anything. I suggest you read the stories the links point to where government officials are dispelling the rumors of seizures, bulldozing, and bodies everywhere.

Believe what you want, it won't affect me or the people in the town of Chimney Rock. I'll stand by my belief in the multiple reports with multiple government officials over an "I heard from someone who heard from someone on X."

I'll also stand by my statement that the angle of the flow of water or mud or the the angle of the land the tree *was* standing on or the angle the power lines were running make no difference. When the mud or water destroys a home or a tree falls across power lines and cuts the power then the effect is the same whether in a mountainous region or a low-elevation region.