[geobar]

Why should Meggison Rd. be any different than say Morse and Prima Blvds?

The Morse Clan is now overbuilding the new villages South of CR-44 with the lack of building enough Shopping, Rec. Centers and Restaurants to entice new purchasers. These people need to drive North.

The 2 original owners of "The Villages" built these attractions to entice sales of homes yet to be built.

Shamefully now that the "Morse Clan" presently only wants to sell homes without providing the required facilities for new residents. This forces these people to travel to 466 or 466A and 441 to shop overcrowding the roads.

This was one reason we moved out of "The Villages" in 2020.

Originally Posted by Normal

We moved into Citrus Grove a little more than a year ago. Since then, traffic has GREATLY increased along Meggison road. My fear is it will even get worse once the road connects to 470/ turnpike and the Bexley bridge opens up. It’s only two lanes wide after passing the Citrus Grove gates and crossing the road with golf carts or walking has gotten more and more treacherous. Furthermore, another hundred plus homes are being built in the Newell Franklin area which would only make things worse. I’m beginning to wonder if things were thought through for this busy thoroughfare?

[M2inOR]

The actual number of complainers is increasing.

The good news? There are more happier people than ever before. They are all out enjoying retirement and life.

[vinnytalk]

And your point is?

[Lottoguy]

Those homes won't be for snowbirds either. They will have year around people living in them. Good luck with the traffic down there.

[joelfmi]

Thanks for this transparency which is a negative for people to move there.

[vinnytalk]

And your point is? It is what it is, you can't tell people not to drive there, or will the villages make larger roads , who ever ot bothers needs to stay home or walk.
Just saying

[srswans]

Originally Posted by Normal

We moved into Citrus Grove a little more than a year ago. Since then, traffic has GREATLY increased along Meggison road. My fear is it will even get worse once the road connects to 470/ turnpike and the Bexley bridge opens up. It’s only two lanes wide after passing the Citrus Grove gates and crossing the road with golf carts or walking has gotten more and more treacherous. Furthermore, another hundred plus homes are being built in the Newell Franklin area which would only make things worse. I’m beginning to wonder if things were thought through for this busy thoroughfare?

Meggison has a posted speed limit of 20 at the Lake County line.

[Michael 61]

Traffic will continue to increase everywhere as The Villages grows - just the way it is - I personally am looking forward to all the future development, and the reason I chose to relocate here vs a small sleepy hamlet someplace without all the amenities and future amenities coming to The Villages - the hustle and bustle is appealing to me.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Laker14

I agree with that there is no reason not to criticize or comment on things the developer could have done better.

As to your example, I have always assumed (which is obviously dangerous) that that part of TV serviced by Morse Rd between Spanish Springs and 466 was the first area developed after jumping across 441 from the Prehistoric Section. Along with that assumption I make another couple of assumptions, one being that the developer had no idea how popular this place would become, and when they continued to develop into the area serviced by Buena Vista north of 466 they learned some lessons about traffic flow from previously developed area.

They continued to apply lessons learned as they developed south of 466; more space between the RABs and the gates where carts cross, bigger tunnels,

and again when they crossed 466A: safer sight-lines as you enter and exit tunnels, longer, wider approaches entering and exiting tunnels, even more space between RABs and cart crossing areas....etc

Did they do it all perfectly? No, but they seemed to be learning and applying what they learned.

I don't live in the new areas, seldom go there, and almost never by cart. But those who do may wonder why it seems that they have gone away from applying what they learned from previous areas developed, and have applied more of a "how do we maximize profits" than "how do we do things better here than the last areas?"

Case in point: the differences in the border ribbing on the new MMPs vs. the older ones. The developer knew what was better, but opted to save a buck or two and go the cheaper route, destined to break down sooner than if they'd done it right.

As you say, things have evolved.

The counterbalance is having more natural/common areas and paths which means less rooftops to spread the bonds. They are building what the current market favors.

Given the demand, they could easily charge more per home if they wanted greater margins.

I think there is a SimCity element to build the best retitement community where Continuing The Dream is among the objectives while balancing profits.

[srswans]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

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A study from the University of Wyoming concluded that "the conversion from two-lane roadways to four lane divided roadways results in a notable reduction in fatal and injury crashes of more than 63% on urban roadways and 45% on rural roadways."

For those interested in the entire study, see below.


https://www.uwyo.edu/ahmed/Papers/20...20Roadways.pdf

That study (from 2015?) does not apply to Meggison, especially Meggison south of Sawgrass. That study examined roads (i.e., highways) that had been converted from two-lane to four, primarily to improve vehicle traffic throughput.

This part of Meggison is a 20 MPH street that is shared by pedestrians, cyclists, golf carts and vehicles. Many people need to cross this street daily just to get their mail. Changing this to four-lane is the opposite of what should be done.

Read the Strong Towns books by Charles Marohn for more detail.

In particular, Marohn shows that traffic engineers are beginning a shift towards slower streets that work for all users. Looks like the developers are doing this as well.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by srswans

This part of Meggison is a 20 MPH street that is shared by pedestrians, cyclists, golf carts and vehicles.

I thought Meggison near Citrus Grove was 30 mph, just like Pinellas and Hillsborough and Marsh Bend Trail in DeLuna.

We have walked and ridden our bikes all through St. Catherine's and Citrus Grove but we have never ridden along Meggison, not when there is a very nice walking/biking path next to it.

[rsmurano]

Originally Posted by Normal

We moved into Citrus Grove a little more than a year ago. Since then, traffic has GREATLY increased along Meggison road. My fear is it will even get worse once the road connects to 470/ turnpike and the Bexley bridge opens up. It’s only two lanes wide after passing the Citrus Grove gates and crossing the road with golf carts or walking has gotten more and more treacherous. Furthermore, another hundred plus homes are being built in the Newell Franklin area which would only make things worse. I’m beginning to wonder if things were thought through for this busy thoroughfare?

We moved here 16 months ago and we knew back then Meggison was going to get really busy, how can it not with all the building that will be going on in Newall and way further down meggison. I thought I heard wingnut state there will be 30,000 more homes down meggison, that’s a huge amount of new homes

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by geobar

Why should Meggison Rd. be any different than say Morse and Prima Blvds?

The Morse Clan is now overbuilding the new villages South of CR-44 with the lack of building enough Shopping, Rec. Centers and Restaurants to entice new purchasers. These people need to drive North.

The 2 original owners of "The Villages" built these attractions to entice sales of homes yet to be built.

Shamefully now that the "Morse Clan" presently only wants to sell homes without providing the required facilities for new residents. This forces these people to travel to 466 or 466A and 441 to shop overcrowding the roads.

This was one reason we moved out of "The Villages" in 2020.

Hope the door didn't hit you on the way out

BTW, how's the traffic in Port St. Lucie

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by srswans

Meggison has a posted speed limit of 20 at the Lake County line.

Maybe that is where Meggison enters a 'construction zone' and that is why they want the speed limit to be less than it is around Citrus Grove.

[kansasr]

Originally Posted by srswans

Meggison has a posted speed limit of 20 at the Lake County line.

Just a quick correction....Meggison has a 30mph maximum speed limit through the Leesburg villages.