[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Just curious, why rent home in an LLC? Is that a vehicle that limits your personal liability, especially if you include a golf cart with the rental? If you stop renting the home, is it easy to dissolve the LLC and convert ownership to yourself and Coach K?

Yes, its about limiting liability for very little cost with the golf cart included, different cost structures for insurance and greater tax benefits. We will pay zero income taxes on all the income with the tax loss carry forwards when we dissolve the LLC.

retired finance guy

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Did so and got the answer as yes, use your out of state license,
then got a call back from the same rec center to call the district management office
then called them explained the scenario and they said yes the first time,
and then final answer is flat out

NO!

So I guess we golf off property unless we purchase fake driver's licenses, or I use my parents ID with inserted pictures. . though the picture to age upper 90's might be a problem. .

I think if the tv show "Person of Interest" is to air again, they should use TV as the setting where seniors are the people threatened. . . their surveillance system is top notch!

Interesting, so no guest ID’s available for residents who surrendered their ID’s to tenants. Learn something every day. So no family, neighborhood, or sports pools (within the rules), pickle ball, and executive golf are out. Can still play championship golf at non resident rates, but at those prices it’s probably worth venturing outside the bubble. I agree the surveillance system is top notch when it comes to golf, but iD checking for other amenities is spotty at best. Enjoy your time at the Villages. I would rather be there right now with no ID than being stuck up north in these below freezing temperatures.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Did so and got the answer as yes, use your out of state license,
then got a call back from the same rec center to call the district management office
then called them explained the scenario and they said yes the first time,
and then final answer is flat out

NO!

Another phone call to see if we can use the championship golf courses as an out of state resident, and the answer is YES! , but we pay full price.

So I guess we golf championship only unless we purchase fake driver's licenses, or I use my parents ID with inserted pictures. . though the picture to age upper 90's might be a problem. .

I think if the tv show "Person of Interest" is to air again, they should use TV as the setting where seniors are the people threatened. . . their surveillance system is top notch!

I don't know... seems like "yes" has it by a score of two to one.

At this point I would just have your hosts submit the application using your out-of-state address and see what happens. Their surveillance system might have cracks that you can slip through.

PLUS, you really are not gaming the system at all. You are not an in-area, non-relative individual trying to gain access to the Villages amenities. You are an out-of-area guest of a current resident. You are not requesting anything more than my relatives from NY or friends from MD are requesting when they come to visit.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I don't know... seems like "yes" has it by a score of two to one.

At this point I would just submit the application using your out-of-state address and see what happens. Their surveillance system might have cracks that you can slip through.

PLUS, you really are not gaming the system at all. You are not an in-area, non-relative individual trying to gain access to the Villages amenities. You are an out-of-area guest of a current resident. You are not requesting anything more than my relatives from NY or friends from MD are requesting when they come to visit.

Nah, not going to push my luck.. . . I don't want to screw up any guest ids, or make extra work for the property managers although we did try making tee times, and our id numbers are assigned to the renters names, so we can see that the system keeps the same ID numbers, but gives them different names. . .

BTW, just got a call from the UK, that wasn't you was it?

I have gotten one other phishing call from the UK long time ago, so I didn't answer it

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

BTW, just got a call from the UK, that wasn't you was it?

No, I'm local (and I don't know your number). I use the Private Message function of these boards to contact someone directly.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

OK, following the rules, all is fine.

We are visiting local friends from MA who also bought in TV, so evidently, we have to register as guests. . . is that correct?

just making sure that we are interpreting the rules correctly?

sportsguy

If I have this correct:
1. you are currently renting out your home, and
2. During this period that your home is being rented out, you are returning to the Villages.
If that is true then yes...you are a guest.

[Dusty_Star]

I agree with the others who say at this point in time you are a guest of your friends. I suspect if your friends submit the Guest ID application using their Resident ID & then your MA credentials for you & your wife, you will be correctly assigned Guest IDs. I also suspect the confusion at the Villages offices has arisen because you were making the calls & explaining that you are currently a non-resident homeowner. Which is probably irrelevant, but the irrevelancy managed to confuse the offices.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star

I agree with the others who say at this point in time you are a guest of your friends. I suspect if your friends submit the Guest ID application using their Resident ID & then your MA credentials for you & your wife, you will be correctly assigned Guest IDs. I also suspect the confusion at the Villages offices has arisen because you were making the calls & explaining that you are currently a non-resident homeowner. Which is probably irrelevant, but the irrevelancy managed to confuse the offices.

In a simple world, I think you're correct, he's a "Guest". That said, it's in the best interest of the community if "Owner's" are NOT allowed "Guest Passes" under most circumstances. It's an issue of double-dipping.

If they were readily allowed, every Landlord in TV would have one of their friends arrange Guest Passes for them, anytime they want to use the amenities. You could rent your house out and yet still use the amenities. Have your cake and eat it too.

I suspect the Guest ID system cross-references names when issuing Guest ID's. If a home is owned by a Trust or LCC (as mine is), there are a limited number of Resident ID's assigned to that address. If one of those names pops up as applying for a Guest ID, I'm sure it's flagged by the computer system.

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[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

If I have this correct:
1. you are currently renting out your home, and
2. During this period that your home is being rented out, you are returning to the Villages.
If that is true then yes...you are a guest.

Read post #14
House is being rented, and our VillagesIDs are forfeited

Please keep read the posts and keep up. . .

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star

I agree with the others who say at this point in time you are a guest of your friends. I suspect if your friends submit the Guest ID application using their Resident ID & then your MA credentials for you & your wife, you will be correctly assigned Guest IDs. I also suspect the confusion at the Villages offices has arisen because you were making the calls & explaining that you are currently a non-resident homeowner. Which is probably irrelevant, but the irrevelancy managed to confuse the offices.

Read post #14
House is being rented, and our VillagesIDs are forfeited

And no, I am not going to cause any system confusion by trying after talking to the district management office, which manages the recreation centers, as the answer is still NOT ALLOWED!

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by brianl99

in a simple world, i think you're correct, he's a "guest". That said, it's in the best interest of the community if "owner's" are not allowed "guest passes" under most circumstances. It's an issue of double-dipping.

If they were readily allowed, every landlord in tv would have one of their friends arrange guest passes for them, anytime they want to use the amenities. You could rent your house out and yet still use the amenities. Have your cake and eat it too.

I suspect the guest id system cross-references names when issuing guest id's. If a home is owned by a trust or lcc (as mine is), there are a limited number of resident id's assigned to that address. If one of those names pops up as applying for a guest id, i'm sure it's flagged by the computer system.

correct!

[Toymeister]

If you are renting your home, then yes you have forfeited your ID. However you can get guest passes if you are a guest

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

In a simple world, I think you're correct, he's a "Guest". That said, it's in the best interest of the community if "Owner's" are NOT allowed "Guest Passes" under most circumstances. It's an issue of double-dipping.

If they were readily allowed, every Landlord in TV would have one of their friends arrange Guest Passes for them, anytime they want to use the amenities. You could rent your house out and yet still use the amenities. Have your cake and eat it too.

I suspect the Guest ID system cross-references names when issuing Guest ID's. If a home is owned by a Trust or LCC (as mine is), there are a limited number of Resident ID's assigned to that address. If one of those names pops up as applying for a Guest ID, I'm sure it's flagged by the computer system.

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

correct!

Thank you. I love being right.

Now please go over to the thread on CDD Bonds. You're a former finance guy. Please explain to the masses, that CDD Bonds are nothing more than mortgages, with a different name and they only relate to land and not homes.

(Once you explain that, then you can move on to how Bond prices fall, when Interest rates rise.)

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

If you are renting your home, then yes you have forfeited your ID. However you can get guest passes if you are a guest

Per district management, not allowed, and the office people disagree with the ruling.
It may have worked in the past, I don't know about the history of it, or whatever, but it got elevated to district management overseeing the rec centers etc. . .

Is this a experiential answer or a logic answer?