[Rainger99]

If the Villages banned short term rentals, I would expect that it would reduce demand for houses. Reducing demand for an item usually lowers the prices.

If you are thinking about selling, it might reduce the price of your house. If you are not thinking about selling, you probably don’t care if prices go down.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Yes, they can. This is a 55+ community, and properties here have capacities. I believe the maximum number of occupants is 4. Or at least, it is in some of the deed restrictions. It might vary depending on the type of home and which village it's in.

The 80/20 law applies to the minimum required for seniors, not the maximum allowed for non-seniors. The 80/20 law means that a 55+ community MAY forbid ANY children residing in the home, if it wants to set up the community regulations that way. The law exists to protect seniors. The Villages allows UP TO 20% of homes to be occupied by people where no one is 55 or older, AND it also forbids anyone under 19 living in any of the homes.

It's not enforced, but it IS the regulation of this community, as allowed by federal law. Theoretically, a couple could move in, and neither of them be 55 or older. But if they have a baby - that baby would not be permitted to live here. They'd have to make a decision - have someone outside the Villages raise the kid, or move out.

And I believe you are correct---those are the rules for OWNERSHIP. But do those restrictions apply to those that rent?????

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And I believe you are correct---those are the rules for OWNERSHIP. But do those restrictions apply to those that rent?????

Sort of. All the rules apply to occupants, not all apply to owners. Keep in mind, Short Term Renters are not "residents", they're "temporary occupants".

The Villages (District) is required to provide HUD with a "certification" that they are in compliance with the 80/20 Rule, every 2 years (not that HUD is very efficient about checking these things).

Failure to meet the Certification, means the community looses it's right to "discriminate" against children (as well as some other benefits).

For many years, I *believe* the certification has been a fairly casual, common sense certification ... "we only sell homes to people over 55".

Just an anecdotal observation, but I suspect the current mix is probably about 92/08, so it's not even close to becoming a legal issue with HUD ... & therefore, not an issue that merits attention by the powers that be.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Sort of. All the rules apply to occupants, not all apply to owners. Keep in mind, Short Term Renters are not "residents", they're "temporary occupants".

The Villages (District) is required to provide HUD with a "certification" that they are in compliance with the 80/20 Rule, every 2 years (not that HUD is very efficient about checking these things).

Failure to meet the Certification, means the community looses it's right to "discriminate" against children (as well as some other benefits).

For many years, I *believe* the certification has been a fairly casual, common sense certification ... "we only sell homes to people over 55".

Just an anecdotal observation, but I suspect the current mix is probably about 92/08, so it's not even close to becoming a legal issue with HUD ... & therefore, not an issue that merits attention by the powers that be.

"We only sell homes to people over 55" ???

What is your source for that rule? As I understand it, anyone can buy a house in The Villages. The age restriction only applies to residents, not owners.

[MX rider]

Our previous neighborhood has a short term rental home. I'll just say I'm glad we were a block away from it.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

"We only sell homes to people over 55" ???

What is your source for that rule? As I understand it, anyone can buy a house in The Villages. The age restriction only applies to residents, not owners.

The source was implied by his "I *believe*" statement, at least it was for me.

The Villages may very well sell to only 55+. I remember that coming up in conversation during my purchase. If an Agency was not asking for detailed records but was willing to accept some extrapolation then hearing that the number of 55+ residents increased by 3,000 each year might be enough to convince them that the overall community was at least 80% 55+.

With 3,000 sales of new homes to 55+ there would need to be at least 750 sales of existing homes to under 55 to even begin to bring the ratio below 80%. Yes, homes get sold to under 55 and yes, it is the occupant's age that matters and not the owner's age, but 750 is a big number especially considering some of those will eventually raise the ratio on their 55th birthday.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

The source was implied by his "I *believe*" statement, at least it was for me.

The Villages may very well sell to only 55+. I remember that coming up in conversation during my purchase. If an Agency was not asking for detailed records but was willing to accept some extrapolation then hearing that the number of 55+ residents increased by 3,000 each year might be enough to convince them that the overall community was at least 80% 55+.

With 3,000 sales of new homes to 55+ there would need to be at least 750 sales of existing homes to under 55 to even begin to bring the ratio below 80%. Yes, homes get sold to under 55 and yes, it is the occupant's age that matters and not the owner's age, but 750 is a big number especially considering some of those will eventually raise the ratio on their 55th birthday.

I don't think it would be legal to prohibit someone under 55 from buying a house in The Villages. The over 55 restriction applies to the residents, not the owner.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by VAtoFLA

My point is, I'm not seeing a lot of people post about living next to nightmare rentals or them witnessing non-residents using the amenities.

Last week I went to the sports pool during time allotted for lap swimming and found a young couple with two children in the pool. To use a sports pool one must be a resident (no guests) and be at least 30 years old. I highly doubt they were residents, and at least two of them were most definitely not 30 years old. I called the receptionist at the Recreation Center and reported it. A couple minutes later, when the family saw the employee come through the gate, they frantically jumped out of the pool and exited. They obviously were fully aware they were breaking the rules, and didn’t care. It happens rather frequently, it’s not the first time I’ve seen the rules clearly being broken.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I don't think it would be legal to prohibit someone under 55 from buying a house in The Villages. The over 55 restriction applies to the residents, not the owner.

As IANAL I can't say what the specific legal provisions are. HUD recognizes senior communities that are 80% occupied by 55 and older. Our deed restrictions give the Developer the right to refuse to sell to under 55 in order to maintain the 80% ratio. Given that, I assume it must be legal to enforce those restrictions and while they apply to residents and not owners, unless the sale is being made to a business it would be assumed that the purchaser will be the owner.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And I believe you are correct---those are the rules for OWNERSHIP. But do those restrictions apply to those that rent?????

Those are the laws for residency, NOT ownership. Some rich 18-year-old kid can buy a house for his grandma, but HE can't live in it until he turns 19.

[Moderator]

Topic of the Thread is how to acquire ID while renting a Airbnb. Please keep post to the subject

[Normal]

You can’t get a pass or ID. You need to have the owner surrender theirs and then pay the 50 dollar transfer fee.

[MrChip72]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

"We only sell homes to people over 55" ???

What is your source for that rule? As I understand it, anyone can buy a house in The Villages. The age restriction only applies to residents, not owners.

It's not true at all. On the three small streets closest to my house there's several couples where neither are 55 years old. Very common south of the turnpike. I'm not 55 yet either so I'm not bothered in the least by it.

I'm sure it all averages out where north of 466a has much more people and is 95% over 55 except for the "historic area".