[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by Parker

Imagine now being a resident in that home, or a family member of said resident, and considering your own risk if you keel over...something tells me things are gonna change there bigtime, and hopefully very soon.

Does anybody have a loved one at Freedom Pointe ? Better let them know company' policy on this just in case .

[Bambi]

Brookdale Senior Living is the same corporate parent that not only administers Glenview Gardens, where CPR was not performed, but also our Freedom Pointe in The Villages. I think some clarification is in order re: their policy.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by applesoffh

Maybe I misunderstood the article I read in this morning's Orlando Sentinel, but it was stated that the woman was "barely breathing". I was taught that you do not administer CPR unless the patient had stopped breathing. Anyway, as for the facility's policy...I think it's awful.

You are correct as usual applesoff, about the "barely breathing" situation and not aministering CPR.

Sometimes stories in the news are sensationalized but the nurses voice sounded so...uninvolved to me.

It is good for all of us to think about as we age and hope that our loved ones investigage these choices for us when the time comes.

[daca55]

There may be another side to this story that the media hasn't heard yet. I say that because it has been reported that the family of the deceased have no problem with the way things were handled by the independent living facility. Sounds like they knew the policy of not performing CPR when there loved one was admitted into this faclity and were fine with it which I find a little disturbing. From a human stand point someone should have done something but the litigious society that we live in keeps people at times from doing the right thing even though it shouldn't.

[2BNTV]

If I don't have a DNR, then I want CPR.

Seriously, but true. I think it's terrible that a peron doesn't receive CPR over a situation that one could easily be revived. If one is at the end of their life and have a DNR, that is something everyone needs to decide for themselves.
I think in cases where one needs extroadinary measures to keep one alive is another situation that someone needs to decide via a health care rider that expresses one's exact wishes.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by daca55

There may be another side to this story that the media hasn't heard yet. I say that because it has been reported that the family of the deceased have no problem with the way things were handled by the independent living facility. Sounds like they knew the policy of not performing CPR when there loved one was admitted into this faclity and were fine with it which I find a little disturbing. From a human stand point someone should have done something but the litigious society that we live in keeps people at times from doing the right thing even though it shouldn't.

Most states have a 'good samaritan' law preventing those that give CPR from being sued.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Most states have a 'good samaritan' law preventing those that give CPR from being sued.

I'm not a former lawyer, but my understanding of Good Samaritan laws is that it protects a non-professional from being sued. On the other hand if you are in an environment where you are acting in a professional capacity then you are held to a higher standard. An EMT doing CPR wrong is liable for the error if he was at the scene via 911. However if he happens upon an arrest and simply acts as a citizen he is protected unless he shunted others aside by claiming expertise. Laws vary but the intent is to encourage bystanders to act. That is why the 911 operator asked if there was a bystander available for her to instruct. The facility nurse if she did CPR would be held to a professional standard.

I too find it interesting that the family has been fine with the outcome.

[Nipper]

Employees of The Villages will not perform CPR. This includes golf personnel. The feeling is that someone else will do it. And I really believe this has to do with potential law suits.

[janmcn]

If you feel a heart attack coming on, get the heck off of Brookdale Senior Living property, and apparently, TV golf courses. You'll have better luck getting a response from a passer-by. This should make people think twice about moving to either of these communities.

[Cantwaittoarrive]

I don't think anyone outside the family has enough information to make a judgment one way or another. When the resident signed the paperwork for the facility there was most likely a statement concerning CPR and other lifesaving measures but I don't know if there was. It was reported on the national news that the persons family was satisfied with the care so who are we that know nothing of the circumstances to judge?

[howardandsheila]

1. As a practicing registered nurse, and the oath she took, if she really deserves to be in the nursing profession, how could she be so cold and uncaring as a person is obviously dying next to her. She will have to live with that.

2. As to that policy, I would love to be the lawyer representing her if she were fired for saving a life, in the unlawful termination lawsuit. The jury would most likely award her the deed to that assisted living facility.

What an argument for Tort reform.

[wendyquat]

As to the family being "satisfied" that kind of care is very expensive! Just saying!

[applesoffh]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

You are correct as usual applesoff, about the "barely breathing" situation and not aministering CPR.

Sometimes stories in the news are sensationalized but the nurses voice sounded so...uninvolved to me.

It is good for all of us to think about as we age and hope that our loved ones investigage these choices for us when the time comes.

Thanks, Gracie.

[Peggy D]

Originally Posted by applesoffh

Thanks, Gracie.

According to the news today, the "nurse" wasn't a nurse.

And according to the family, their mother didn't want any life saving intervention. However, the was no DNR form signed in her chart. So
why was 911 called?

Hummmm

As far as an EMT being sued for doing CPR "wrong" Not so. I've seen many,as I call them, "variations" of CPR done as a member of a CODE team for 24 years in the medical field, and never as anyone been sued!!!

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by Peggy D

According to the news today, the "nurse" wasn't a nurse.

And according to the family, their mother didn't want any life saving intervention. However, the was no DNR form signed in her chart. So
why was 911 called?

Hummmm

As far as an EMT being sued for doing CPR "wrong" Not so. I've seen many,as I call them, "variations" of CPR done as a member of a CODE team for 24 years in the medical field, and never as anyone been sued!!!

Also, according to today's newspaper in an Associated Press report, "The homes's parent company said in a statement that the employee wrongly interpreted company policy when she declined to offer aide."