[janieb]

Oh my, all of my perceptions about moving to The Villages is that it will be a fun, friendly place, now I am wondering. . . .

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by johnboy

It must be hell to get old! I wonder if you all complain about your neighbors leaves falling on your property.

Let's not mock and minimize. Leaves are nowhere even close to what dog feces are for disease transmission, environmental pollution, and aggravation to neighbors:


Dog waste poses threat to water

By Traci Watson, USA TODAY

For as long as the dog has been man's best friend, dog waste has posed a menace to man's nose and foot. Now science has revealed a more unsavory truth: It's an environmental pollutant.

In the mid-1990s, scientists perfected methods for tracking the origin of nasty bacteria in streams and seawater. From Clearwater, Fla., to Arlington, Va., to Boise the trail has led straight to the hunched-up dog — and to owners who don't pick up after their pets.

At some beaches, dogs help raise bacteria levels so high that visitors must stay out of the water. Goaded by such studies, some cities have directed as much as $10,000 in the last few years to encourage dog owners to clean up after their pets. A few municipalities have started issuing citations to those who ignore pet clean-up ordinances.

Many dog lovers are in denial about their pooches' leavings. But researchers have named the idea that areas used by dogs pump more bacteria into waterways — the "Fido hypothesis."

Dogs are only one of many fixtures of suburban America that add to water pollution. Lawn fertilizers, rinse water from driveways and motor oil commonly end up in streams and lakes.

But unlike those sources, dogs generate disease-causing bacteria that can make people sick. Studies done in the last few years put dogs third or fourth on the list of contributors to bacteria in contaminated waters. "Dogs are one of our usual suspects," says Valerie Harwood, a microbiologist at the University of South Florida. "At certain sites, we find their effect to be significant."

It doesn't take a Ph.D. to figure out that dog do is nasty. But it took science to determine how nasty it is.

From mutt to blue-blooded champion, all dogs harbor so-called coliform bacteria, which live in the gut. The group includes E. coli, a bacterium that can cause disease, and fecal coliform bacteria, which spread through feces. Dogs also carry salmonella and giardia. Environmental officials use measurements of some of these bacteria as barometers of how much fecal matter has contaminated a body of water.

This wouldn't matter if pet dogs were as rare as pet chinchillas. But four in 10 U.S. households include at least one dog, according to the American Pet Products Manufacturers Association. The association's statistics also show that Americans owned 54.6 million dogs in 1996 and 68 million dogs in 2000. Of that total, 45% were "large" dogs — 40 pounds or more.

Those numbers add up to a lot of kibble. That wouldn't matter if all dog owners also owned a pooper-scooper. But several studies have found that roughly 40% of Americans don't pick up their dogs' feces (women are more likely to do so than men).....

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by janieb

Oh my, all of my perceptions about moving to The Villages is that it will be a fun, friendly place, now I am wondering. . . .

most assuredly you jest.

While TOTV offers a wealth of communication/education/suggestion/direction/help.....it is also fraught with personal opinion and predjudices and beliefs and even some off the wall stuff.

But we all know that 98%+++ of us are happy as clams to be here and we do not let the 2% or less minority positions affect our lives and most certainly not our decisions.

Some of us will rest easy knowing a dog poop thread, with all anonymous contributors would not affect one of the more important decisions in your life.

btk

[Here2Stay]

OH MY.....the things we worry about!

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

Let's not mock and minimize. Leaves are nowhere even close to what dog feces are for disease transmission, environmental pollution, and aggravation to neighbors:


Dog waste poses threat to water

By Traci Watson, USA TODAY

For as long as the dog has been man's best friend, dog waste has posed a menace to man's nose and foot. Now science has revealed a more unsavory truth: It's an environmental pollutant.

In the mid-1990s, scientists perfected methods for tracking the origin of nasty bacteria in streams and seawater. From Clearwater, Fla., to Arlington, Va., to Boise the trail has led straight to the hunched-up dog � and to owners who don't pick up after their pets.

At some beaches, dogs help raise bacteria levels so high that visitors must stay out of the water. Goaded by such studies, some cities have directed as much as $10,000 in the last few years to encourage dog owners to clean up after their pets. A few municipalities have started issuing citations to those who ignore pet clean-up ordinances.

Many dog lovers are in denial about their pooches' leavings. But researchers have named the idea that areas used by dogs pump more bacteria into waterways � the "Fido hypothesis."

Dogs are only one of many fixtures of suburban America that add to water pollution. Lawn fertilizers, rinse water from driveways and motor oil commonly end up in streams and lakes.

But unlike those sources, dogs generate disease-causing bacteria that can make people sick. Studies done in the last few years put dogs third or fourth on the list of contributors to bacteria in contaminated waters. "Dogs are one of our usual suspects," says Valerie Harwood, a microbiologist at the University of South Florida. "At certain sites, we find their effect to be significant."

It doesn't take a Ph.D. to figure out that dog do is nasty. But it took science to determine how nasty it is.

From mutt to blue-blooded champion, all dogs harbor so-called coliform bacteria, which live in the gut. The group includes E. coli, a bacterium that can cause disease, and fecal coliform bacteria, which spread through feces. Dogs also carry salmonella and giardia. Environmental officials use measurements of some of these bacteria as barometers of how much fecal matter has contaminated a body of water.

This wouldn't matter if pet dogs were as rare as pet chinchillas. But four in 10 U.S. households include at least one dog, according to the American Pet Products Manufacturers Association. The association's statistics also show that Americans owned 54.6 million dogs in 1996 and 68 million dogs in 2000. Of that total, 45% were "large" dogs � 40 pounds or more.

Those numbers add up to a lot of kibble. That wouldn't matter if all dog owners also owned a pooper-scooper. But several studies have found that roughly 40% of Americans don't pick up their dogs' feces (women are more likely to do so than men).....

So what should we do about all those poopin, bacteria carrying, disease ridden wild animals that live in and around The Villages??? Wonder what the alligator poop does to the water? and I would venture a guess all those chemicals used to keep our grass growing and green is a much bigger hazard.

[graciegirl]

It is hot and the humidity is like a sauna. Who brought this whole subject up again?

Sit.

Roll over.

Stay.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by janieb

Oh my, all of my perceptions about moving to The Villages is that it will be a fun, friendly place, now I am wondering. . . .

Just go and read all of graciegirl posts.............................and you will feel better.

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

Let's not mock and minimize. Leaves are nowhere even close to what dog feces are for disease transmission, environmental pollution, and aggravation to neighbors:


Dog waste poses threat to water

By Traci Watson, USA TODAY

For as long as the dog has been man's best friend, dog waste has posed a menace to man's nose and foot. Now science has revealed a more unsavory truth: It's an environmental pollutant.

In the mid-1990s, scientists perfected methods for tracking the origin of nasty bacteria in streams and seawater. From Clearwater, Fla., to Arlington, Va., to Boise the trail has led straight to the hunched-up dog � and to owners who don't pick up after their pets.

At some beaches, dogs help raise bacteria levels so high that visitors must stay out of the water. Goaded by such studies, some cities have directed as much as $10,000 in the last few years to encourage dog owners to clean up after their pets. A few municipalities have started issuing citations to those who ignore pet clean-up ordinances.

Many dog lovers are in denial about their pooches' leavings. But researchers have named the idea that areas used by dogs pump more bacteria into waterways � the "Fido hypothesis."

Dogs are only one of many fixtures of suburban America that add to water pollution. Lawn fertilizers, rinse water from driveways and motor oil commonly end up in streams and lakes.

But unlike those sources, dogs generate disease-causing bacteria that can make people sick. Studies done in the last few years put dogs third or fourth on the list of contributors to bacteria in contaminated waters. "Dogs are one of our usual suspects," says Valerie Harwood, a microbiologist at the University of South Florida. "At certain sites, we find their effect to be significant."

It doesn't take a Ph.D. to figure out that dog do is nasty. But it took science to determine how nasty it is.

From mutt to blue-blooded champion, all dogs harbor so-called coliform bacteria, which live in the gut. The group includes E. coli, a bacterium that can cause disease, and fecal coliform bacteria, which spread through feces. Dogs also carry salmonella and giardia. Environmental officials use measurements of some of these bacteria as barometers of how much fecal matter has contaminated a body of water.

This wouldn't matter if pet dogs were as rare as pet chinchillas. But four in 10 U.S. households include at least one dog, according to the American Pet Products Manufacturers Association. The association's statistics also show that Americans owned 54.6 million dogs in 1996 and 68 million dogs in 2000. Of that total, 45% were "large" dogs � 40 pounds or more.

Those numbers add up to a lot of kibble. That wouldn't matter if all dog owners also owned a pooper-scooper. But several studies have found that roughly 40% of Americans don't pick up their dogs' feces (women are more likely to do so than men).....

Okie Dokie, Query me this... How do my shrimpy little pack cause more of a contamination problem pooping in your yard than my yard? How about urine, I'm not picking it up either way.

You want to worry about bacteria, stop getting ice in your drink.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

Let's not mock and minimize. Leaves are nowhere even close to what dog feces are for disease transmission, environmental pollution, and aggravation to neighbors:


Dog waste poses threat to water

By Traci Watson, USA TODAY

For as long as the dog has been man's best friend, dog waste has posed a menace to man's nose and foot. Now science has revealed a more unsavory truth: It's an environmental pollutant.

In the mid-1990s, scientists perfected methods for tracking the origin of nasty bacteria in streams and seawater. From Clearwater, Fla., to Arlington, Va., to Boise the trail has led straight to the hunched-up dog — and to owners who don't pick up after their pets.

At some beaches, dogs help raise bacteria levels so high that visitors must stay out of the water. Goaded by such studies, some cities have directed as much as $10,000 in the last few years to encourage dog owners to clean up after their pets. A few municipalities have started issuing citations to those who ignore pet clean-up ordinances.

Many dog lovers are in denial about their pooches' leavings. But researchers have named the idea that areas used by dogs pump more bacteria into waterways — the "Fido hypothesis."

Dogs are only one of many fixtures of suburban America that add to water pollution. Lawn fertilizers, rinse water from driveways and motor oil commonly end up in streams and lakes.

But unlike those sources, dogs generate disease-causing bacteria that can make people sick. Studies done in the last few years put dogs third or fourth on the list of contributors to bacteria in contaminated waters. "Dogs are one of our usual suspects," says Valerie Harwood, a microbiologist at the University of South Florida. "At certain sites, we find their effect to be significant."

It doesn't take a Ph.D. to figure out that dog do is nasty. But it took science to determine how nasty it is.

From mutt to blue-blooded champion, all dogs harbor so-called coliform bacteria, which live in the gut. The group includes E. coli, a bacterium that can cause disease, and fecal coliform bacteria, which spread through feces. Dogs also carry salmonella and giardia. Environmental officials use measurements of some of these bacteria as barometers of how much fecal matter has contaminated a body of water.

This wouldn't matter if pet dogs were as rare as pet chinchillas. But four in 10 U.S. households include at least one dog, according to the American Pet Products Manufacturers Association. The association's statistics also show that Americans owned 54.6 million dogs in 1996 and 68 million dogs in 2000. Of that total, 45% were "large" dogs — 40 pounds or more.

Those numbers add up to a lot of kibble. That wouldn't matter if all dog owners also owned a pooper-scooper. But several studies have found that roughly 40% of Americans don't pick up their dogs' feces (women are more likely to do so than men).....

Yes, there are lots of dogs that generate a lot of poop, according to this article there were 60 million of them in 2000. And eating dog poop will definitely make you sick. I don't understand why this article is relevant to a Villages dog that pees on a neighbor's lawn.

[bob47]

Originally Posted by ctuttle

My dog poops 3 or 4 times while I'm walking it. You must have had a real smart dog if it knew to poop all it had to before it could go for a walk. I have a greyhound. It needs exercise. Sorry but if I am walking it and it has to go, it goes. I pick it up. End of story. The respectable thing is to pick it up and that's what I do. Yell at me if I don't, but I'm not going to NOT walk my dog and give it what it needs just so other people are happy. If there was a law against walking your dog, I would obey it. To me, the only "law" there is, is to be respectful and pick it up. Can anyone give me a VALID reason, not just a grumpy complaint, but a VALID reason why a dog pooping in a yard and being picked up is bad for the lawn? Or better yet, if the dog poops on rocks, why it is bad for the rocks. Hello, rain washes it off the rocks if any is left on it.

I can give you 2 very good reasons.

I do my own yard work, pull weeds, and clean out the grass around the sprinkler heads. Do you think I want to be rooting around where you dog peed or crapped? How about you come over and clean out around my sprinklers?

And how about grand kids playing ball and rolling around in the grass where your dog just left his mess?

[bluedog103]

Originally Posted by ctuttle

Can anyone give me a VALID reason, not just a grumpy complaint, but a VALID reason why a dog pooping in a yard and being picked up is bad for the lawn? Or better yet, if the dog poops on rocks, why it is bad for the rocks. Hello, rain washes it off the rocks if any is left on it.

I have an idea. Why don't you just let your dog do it's business in your house? Is it bad for the tile? Hello, it washes off doesn't it?

[gomoho]

We are getting stupid and ugly now - let's all calm down and discuss this poop stuff like civilized Villagers.

[Birdie Dreamer]

I am actually starting to miss the Havana cc threads.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by bluedog103

I have an idea. Why don't you just let your dog do it's business in your house? Is it bad for the tile? Hello, it washes off doesn't it?

Yeah...indoor tile=outdoor rock.

I don't allow my dogs to pee/poo on other folks' lawns, and don't think others should either. But sometimes the arguments just make me roll my eyes.

[ugotme]