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ilovetv 08-28-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 734860)
Barefoot, I enjoy reading your posts and feel nice when I do...you know I'm a big dog owner too...
Where I live most everyone walks their dog on the neighbor's grass from one yard to the next and not in the street. They stop when the dog wants to stop on the lawn to let their dog do whatever it wants to do. They walk the dog on the lawns instead of across the street where the lots are not yet built.

One person pm'd me to say thanks for starting a previous poop thread. She said it had never occurred to her until she read the posts that people might object to her dog toileting in their yard.

THIS is what we're talking about:

"..They stop when the dog wants to stop on the lawn to let their dog do whatever it wants to do. They walk the dog on the lawns instead of across the street where the lots are not yet built..."

And THAT takes gall.

gall noun \ˈgȯl\

Definition of GALL

2 : brazen boldness coupled with impudent assurance and insolence

CFrance 08-28-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 734795)
Okey Dokey, I have six, all dressed alike to confuse people. When they run around on their retractable leashes you'd swear there wasn't more than four, I think it's called Trompe L'oeil.

All I know, is I'm happy. Is everyone happy?

I think it's called Trip L'oeil.

I'm happy.

CFrance 08-28-2013 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Denise Frayne (Post 734904)
My first time on here for a discussion, and I think it's a riot, quite frankly...especially the bully with the psychiatry degree. I did learn several things tho...1) people love their pets to the exclusion of common sense..fact, I do! 2) if I don't agree with you, I am a control freak and have bigger issues than a simple opinion and 3) the sidewalks in the square are a good place to dump my used kitty litter, as opposed to my neighbor's yard I had been using. I'll be sure to get on here in another year or so to see if I can pick up anymore enlightening life lessons. Ciao!!

Oh, I wouldn't wait a year. This is a self-recycling topic:doggie: Couple months, tops.:popcorn:

kittygilchrist 08-28-2013 01:22 PM

or this thread might go on and on and...

Lovey2 08-28-2013 01:26 PM

hahaha!! Kitty, cfrance, ilovetv and a few others...you guys are too funny!! Much enjoyed your comments. Wish we had a "like" button on here like Facebook!

gomoho 08-28-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 734831)
Ah....but this is where I disagree. There are numerous people right here in this thread who who mock and condemn and label as "dog haters" the homeowners who expect respect for their property.

Sorry if you felt mocked or condemned by my post, but as a responsible dog owner who toilets their dog in the street if they have to go on our walk, I am sooooooooo tired of all the complaining about the few that don't oblige.:spoken:

gpirate 08-28-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 734718)
Halfway up the driveway would be what? Five feet? PUHLEASE....

Just for the record, I no longer walk my dogs, not because I care about lawns... don't care about mine or yours. I no longer do it because I care about the dogs. After hearing about the dried sludge fertilizer I don't want them exposed to E-coli, staph and strep. Instead I take them to the town squares and let them do their thing on the sidewalks.

I know when I get moved to TV I want to walk my two boxers with the likes of Barefoot, Patty, & Kitty. Seems to me they are true dog lovers just like me.

Lovey2 08-28-2013 02:03 PM

don't apologize gomoho...this should all be taken with some grains of salt....on a nice big glass filled with some lovely libation :)

Polar Bear 08-28-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 734956)
...as a responsible dog owner...I am sooooooooo tired of all the complaining about the few that don't oblige.

I gotta admit, gomoho, this is the one thing that I grow tired of about these threads too.

graciegirl 08-28-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Denise Frayne (Post 734904)
My first time on here for a discussion, and I think it's a riot, quite frankly...especially the bully with the psychiatry degree. I did learn several things tho...1) people love their pets to the exclusion of common sense..fact, I do! 2) if I don't agree with you, I am a control freak and have bigger issues than a simple opinion and 3) the sidewalks in the square are a good place to dump my used kitty litter, as opposed to my neighbor's yard I had been using. I'll be sure to get on here in another year or so to see if I can pick up anymore enlightening life lessons. Ciao!!

Oh Denise. You ARE NEW. Most of the sarcasm on this thread comes from the fact that the issue you chose to enter the fray with has been discussed, discussed, discussed and discussed. If you enter dog poop in the search above it will take you back two or three years and show you thread after thread after thread on the same subject. Before then the word POOP had not been used so much. It was called "going" or "using".

I don't have a dog either. I have cats. I love dogs though. I love people too. We all live on small lots and there are a bunch of folks who love their dogs. The ones who are letting their dogs do do do on someone's lawns and not pick it up are the same ones who used to let their kids run wild.

I am REALLY sorry that your feelings are hurt, but many like minded folks agree with you. Please don't leave or stop posting your opinions.

PS. Patty was mostly funnin' us. MOSTLY.

CFrance 08-28-2013 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=graciegirl;

"do do do"?

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
(I love pottymouth jokes...)

njbchbum 08-28-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sobell (Post 734769)
what's the problem? The poop was picked up! Apparently you don't have a dog , so you don't understand how important it is for them to get exercise as well as poop! Get over it and get a dog. Then you will understand & probably be a much happier person.

sobell - owned several dogs - loved them all - travel too much to own one now. that said - i find little in life more disgusting than enjoying a respite on my front facing lanai with a meal or a beverage and having to watch a dog of any size relieve itself on my lawn in front of me - and then watch an owner pick up a deposit it and bag it! that might be something you accept - but i cannot.

why do you think the villages offers dog parks - for exercise!

Lovey2 08-28-2013 08:27 PM

graciegirl, thank you but you misunderstand my own sarcastic self...my feelings are not hurt, this isn't nearly important enough for that...besides, I am only funnin' myself...MOSTLY!! I can see where this would be a very controversial topic, and am a dog and people lover too. I AM NOT, however, a do do lover...hahaha...as "The Doctor" said...it's all good! :)

OCsun 08-29-2013 07:27 AM

The last neighborhood i lived was full of young families with dogs. When we walked our dogs, we stopped and talked to each other. Our dogs sniffed each other and peed next to each other. Nobody ever complained as long as we all followed the golden rule. If they poop you scoop, if they pee its free.
We spent more time making sure our neighborhood was safe for the kids and that there was always a parent at the bus stop each morning and afternoon. Anyone in the neighborhood who complained about an occasional child cutting through their property to get to the park or a dog peeing on their lawn was condered an old sour puss!

And that's all I have to say about that!!!;)

CFrance 08-29-2013 07:45 AM

If I had lived in Ocean City, MD, I wouldn't have cared about what the dogs did either! Our vacation spot for decades.

Seriously, you make a good point about your neighborhood being young families with dogs, walking and talking. I think it would make a big difference if you were in a homogenous neighborhood, with everyone doing the same thing. If I'm outside with my dog, talking to a neighbor with her dog and the dog pees on the yard... oh, well. No big deal.

But it's different to be looking out your window and see a stranger walking by, allowing his dog on a long leash to roam around in people's yards. This is not your typical suburban neighborhood. These are tiny lots with houses 20 feet apart; we already live in each other's back pockets. The need to respect privacy and property is great.

graciegirl 08-29-2013 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 735325)
If I had lived in Ocean City, MD, I wouldn't have cared about what the dogs did either! Our vacation spot for decades.

Seriously, you make a good point about your neighborhood being young families with dogs, walking and talking. I think it would make a big difference if you were in a homogenous neighborhood, with everyone doing the same thing. If I'm outside with my dog, talking to a neighbor with her dog and the dog pees on the yard... oh, well. No big deal.

But it's different to be looking out your window and see a stranger walking by, allowing his dog on a long leash to roam around in people's yards. This is not your typical suburban neighborhood. These are tiny lots with houses 20 feet apart; we already live in each other's back pockets. The need to respect privacy and property is great.

That attitude of yours. I can't decide what about you I love the best.

And I would love to personally meet your pup. I have a feeling we would really get along.

kittygilchrist 08-29-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OCsun (Post 735314)
The last neighborhood i lived was full of young families with dogs. When we walked our dogs, we stopped and talked to each other. Our dogs sniffed each other and peed next to each other. Nobody ever complained as long as we all followed the golden rule. If they poop you scoop, if they pee its free.
We spent more time making sure our neighborhood was safe for the kids and that there was always a parent at the bus stop each morning and afternoon. Anyone in the neighborhood who complained about an occasional child cutting through their property to get to the park or a dog peeing on their lawn was condered an old sour puss!

And that's all I have to say about that!!!;)

Sounds just like here. Some people let their dogs go in the yards of others and speak ill of them if they dislike it. Some people dislike it.

Here2Stay 08-29-2013 08:47 AM

So little time!
 
The things we worry at our age is rather sad....when you actually can count in your head the number of months left in your :"life span"; think you might want to enjoy your life instead of finding fault in so many 'little things" We can all find silly things to complain about, however, with a life span of about 360 months....(based off our family history) I think every minute being positive is far more important. Think about it! How many months to you have left! Is this really worth your time!

Shame on those who don't pickup after their pets, I agree with that...otherwise its JUST grass! Just freaking GRASS! Say whatever you want....unless they don't pick up....its just "freaking grass"!

billethkid 08-29-2013 09:09 AM

also remember the first line of defense/offense is to tell them to stop using your yard....which means a face to face encounter and 95% will not do that....but will easily sit at the keyboard and hammer away about the "disgust".

And also remember what is being discussed, as usual, are the isolated incidents.....the other 98% are doing just fine and normally not discussed.

Lastly get up quick and turn on the sprinkler system!;)

btk

CFrance 08-29-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 735332)
That attitude of yours. I can't decide what about you I love the best.

And I would love to personally meet your pup. I have a feeling we would really get along.

You got it! He's going to come stay with you for three weeks in September. Thank you SO much!!! :a040::a040::a040:

D&Lsunfun 08-29-2013 03:15 PM

The entire pool/park area has been turned into a "doggie park", (Tamarind Grove)
with the smell, barking and extra car/cart traffic just to get to the "most beautiful pool". The beautiful park is nothing more than a dumping area. Owners allow their dogs to run without leashes, so how do you pickup the feces. What a unpleasant surprise for the landscapers. This is not a doggie park. It is a neighborhood park/pool, for people.
Same thing for owners that think it is okay for dogs to be walked on the golf course after hours. Not a doggie park.

nanci2539 08-29-2013 03:24 PM

I'm kind of chuckling at these posts. I have cats but I do love all my friend's dogs. When I lived up north, my neighbor took her little dog over to introduce her to me. She came into my home before I had a chance to say my cat was roaming around. He was a 26lb Maine Coon. Ben, my cat, backed her dog into a corner where she, the dog, got so nervous, she pooped on my brand new rug!

End of story!

kittygilchrist 08-29-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nanci2539 (Post 735623)
I'm kind of chuckling at these posts. I have cats but I do love all my friend's dogs. When I lived up north, my neighbor took her little dog over to introduce her to me. She came into my home before I had a chance to say my cat was roaming around. He was a 26lb Maine Coon. Ben, my cat, backed her dog into a corner where she, the dog, got so nervous, she pooped on my brand new rug!

End of story!

LOL that's a good one. no poop in this story but we had a feral "Mama Cat" just tame enuf to pick a closet inside for her kits, but nobody could come near her. Then we dogsat my mother's german shepherd, who poked his nose in the br door where Mama Cat had her brood.
I can still see the shepherd wheeling backwards down the hall with Mama Cat smacking his nose.

CFrance 08-29-2013 03:44 PM

Okay, since this thread's kinda hijacked already... We had a beagle mix when I was growing up. We had a cat too. I was in the kitchen one day when the cat came racing through with the beagle in hot pursuit, and down the cellar steps they went. That was a big cellar, so they were down there a bit hissing and barking, when up comes the beagle with the cat in hot pursuit...

I love love love cats and dogs.

notlongnow 08-29-2013 04:38 PM

See, the dog poop thread has transformed into a great place to tell stories about some of the most beloved members of our families and remember why we love them so much.

Oh, and every once in a while they poop on the neighbors yard and we clean it up! I have had loved family members do more damage than that! Maybe I should try the sprinkler idea on them?
Now how do I get them to go stand in the front yard and not suspect anything?

I love it when there is a happy ending to a story.

EB

Easyrider 08-29-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Here2Stay (Post 735366)
Shame on those who don't pickup after their pets, I agree with that...otherwise its JUST grass! Just freaking GRASS! Say whatever you want....unless they don't pick up....its just "freaking grass"!

Some people do love their grass just like some people do love their dogs. If the grass belongs to them and is their property I totally respect their right to do so and in the process they have the right to be just as irrational as some of the dog owners about it..

njbchbum 08-29-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Here2Stay (Post 735366)
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Shame on those who don't pickup after their pets, I agree with that...otherwise its JUST grass! Just freaking GRASS! Say whatever you want....unless they don't pick up....its just "freaking grass"!

but it's not the pet owner's/dog walker's GRASS! i wonder when entitlement replaced respect.

Easyrider 08-29-2013 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 735882)
but it's not the pet owner's/dog walker's GRASS! i wonder when entitlement replaced respect.



Neighbor came from their yard straight across the street to my yard with her dog and took care of business 10-12 feet up into the yard. She did go after it but....

I had a little discussion with her on the spot and the problem was solved right then. No need to be excessively ugly but just let them know you would appreciate it if it not ever happen again and it works!

senior citizen 08-29-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nysnowbirds (Post 716639)
I love dogs. However, when I watched a neighbor walk her two dogs and stop at my lawn this morning while her dog did his business on my lawn, I was shocked. She was not at the edge but well off the street with the dogs on a long leash in the middle of my lawn and waited a while until the dog decided to do his business on my lawn. Yes, she picked it up and yes, one has limited control over such things. But this behavior was rude, inconsiderate and selfish. Why not walk the dogs on YOUR LAWN? Or since we are a developing village (Hillsborough) with many acres of vacent land, why walk your dogs on your new neighbors lawns? It is just RUDE!

She certainly must be our neighbor from up in Vermont. This woman walks three dogs on a long leash and lets them go wherever they wish......up our hill which is a steep front lawn.........or most blatantly RIGHT ON THE SIGN WHICH IS A LITTLE WHITE DOG WITH THE RED LETTERS "NO".......that's their favorite spot to do their business.

She even cooks special food for these pooches........who are her life.
I "GET IT"........but yes, it is rude.

CFrance 08-29-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 735882)
but it's not the pet owner's/dog walker's GRASS! i wonder when entitlement replaced respect.

I agree. Would you go poop in your neighbor's lawn? Where did that right come form?

Barefoot 08-29-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 735893)
Neighbor came from their yard straight across the street to my yard with her dog and took care of business 10-12 feet up into the yard. She did go after it but.... I had a little discussion with her on the spot and the problem was solved right then. No need to be excessively ugly but just let them know you would appreciate it if it not ever happen again and it works!

I would be interested to hear your neighbor's explanation of why she thought it was OK to use your yard and not her own yard? I'd love to hear the logic, or are people just so self absorbed they honestly don't know they're unwelcome?

Having said that, let's remember that 99% of dog owners in TV are considerate and respectful!!

Easyrider 08-30-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 735937)
I would be interested to hear your neighbor's explanation of why she thought it was OK to use your yard and not her own yard? I'd love to hear the logic, or are people just so self absorbed they honestly don't know they're unwelcome?

Having said that, let's remember that 99% of dog owners in TV are considerate and respectful!!

She just said she was sorry, no other explanation as to why she thought it was OK. I was totally surprised as I was standing right in the garage when it happened.

Barefoot 08-30-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 734860)
Barefoot, I enjoy reading your posts and feel nice when I do...you know I'm a big dog owner too...
One person pm'd me to say thanks for starting a previous poop thread. She said it had never occurred to her until she read the posts that people might object to her dog toileting in their yard.

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Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 736268)
She just said she was sorry, no other explanation as to why she thought it was OK.

I've always hated these threads bashing (what sometimes feels like all dog walkers), when only a few of them disrespect others' properties. But perhaps there is a need for these threads after all. Could it really be true that some people think it's OK to walk their dogs walk half way up your lawn to poop?

No, I really don't see how anyone would need to have that pointed out to them!! Unless you were raised in a Zoo, common courtesy should keep dog walkers away from private property, on the sidewalk, or in dog parks and public areas.

Judyh 08-31-2013 10:32 AM

Also love dogs not sure about the owners
 
Saturday morning the 31st I was walking the cart path near the Sunset Point gate when I noticed a couple walking what looked to be a Mastiff dog on the grass around the pond. My thought was large dog – large poop.
I was pleased to note that the man was carrying a plastic bag with the dog’s waste. I then turned around at the gate to walk back when I noticed the man’s hands were empty. I asked him what he did with the waste – his comment “I threw it behind the bushes (pointing to the bushes by the gate sign) because there is no waste container for him to dump it in”. I told him it was a terrible thing to do but my comments did not seem to faze either he or his wife.
Are we to ruin our beautiful landscaping because a bad dog owner is too lazy to carry his dog’s waste home to his own trash???

Judyh 08-31-2013 10:34 AM

Saturday morning the 31st I was walking the cart path near the Sunset Point gate when I noticed a couple walking what looked to be a Mastiff dog on the grass around the pond. My thought was large dog – large poop.
I was pleased to note that the man was carrying a plastic bag with the dog’s waste. I then turned around at the gate to walk back when I noticed the man’s hands were empty. I asked him what he did with the waste – his comment “I threw it behind the bushes (pointing to the bushes by the gate sign) because there is no waste container for him to dump it in”. I told him it was a terrible thing to do but my comments did not seem to faze either he or his wife.
Are we to ruin our beautiful landscaping because a bad dog owner is too lazy to carry his dog’s waste home to his own trash???

Judyh 08-31-2013 10:40 AM

Saturday morning the 31st I was walking the cart path near the Sunset Point gate when I noticed a couple walking what looked to be a Mastiff dog on the grass around the pond. My thought was large dog – large poop.
I was pleased to note that the man was carrying a plastic bag with the dog’s waste. I then turned around at the gate to walk back when I noticed the man’s hands were empty. I asked him what he did with the waste – his comment “I threw it behind the bushes (pointing to the bushes by the gate sign) because there is no waste container for him to dump it in”. I told him it was a terrible thing to do but my comments did not seem to faze either he or his wife.
Are we to ruin our beautiful landscaping because a bad dog owner is too lazy to carry his dog’s waste home to his own trash???

ilovetv 08-31-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Judyh (Post 736713)
Saturday morning the 31st I was walking the cart path near the Sunset Point gate when I noticed a couple walking what looked to be a Mastiff dog on the grass around the pond. My thought was large dog – large poop.
I was pleased to note that the man was carrying a plastic bag with the dog’s waste. I then turned around at the gate to walk back when I noticed the man’s hands were empty. I asked him what he did with the waste – his comment “I threw it behind the bushes (pointing to the bushes by the gate sign) because there is no waste container for him to dump it in”. I told him it was a terrible thing to do but my comments did not seem to faze either he or his wife.
Are we to ruin our beautiful landscaping because a bad dog owner is too lazy to carry his dog’s waste home to his own trash???

I doubt it's laziness and more like he doesn't want the horrendous STENCH in the garbage can/bag in his own garage.

People who want to raise livestock the size of shetland ponies need to buy a farm or ranchette, not a house on a postage-stamp sized lot in a giant country-club!

gomoho 08-31-2013 04:42 PM

That is a pathetic excuse for a dog owner - LAZY and ENTITLED are the words that come to my mind. I can assure you this idiot would have just as readily thrown a bag of poop from a small dog in the same location - once a jerk, always a jerk.

kittygilchrist 08-31-2013 04:46 PM

JudyH, you've got a lot of nerve posting on here where everybody in the neighborhood will figure out who's the guy throwing dog poop and plastic bags into the bushes.
Well done. I like your nerve.
Kitty

Barefoot 08-31-2013 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Judyh (Post 736711)
Are we to ruin our beautiful landscaping because a bad dog owner is too lazy to carry his dog’s waste home to his own trash???

Is that an example of a lazy and inconsiderate dog owner? Yes.
Will one owner ruin your landscaping? No.
Will a lot of dog owners do the same thing? No.


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