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Except that we currently do not ALL contribute to maintain ALL the facilities. If you wish to swim at certain country club pools, you pay extra for that benefit. If you wish to play on country club golf courses, you pay for that benefit. If you wish to use gym equipment at certain Rec centers, you pay for that privilege. I certainly don't mind having an indoor pool, but let those who want it pay for it. Heck, I don't even use the pools I'm subsidizing now.


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:thumbup: the pool isn't even built or a location yet determined and look at the this issue is getting already.

I filled in the missing word. :024:
Unless an indoor pool is built in each community, there will be questions and complaints about the fairness of the location.
And also about whether it should be a user-pay facility.
It's inevitable. :popcorn:

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I'm going to start a petition requesting that the powers that be build a sauna with an adjacent massage studio. All to be free of course. And I have never had a massage either, but I think I might enjoy spending others money.

Anyone else have any suggestions for free facilities for the common good? [emoji41]


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Isn't it better to address those issues earlier rather later?

Would this suggestion bring this Indoor Pool Situation to Happy Ending? :jester: :a20:

I doubt it, Nucky. Aside from having a contrarian position, I'm also having some fun. No frown, just smiles.


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I think y'all should start a petition with all the complaints already about an indoor pool before the developer spends the money to add it as an amenity. This will give them time and an excuse to just nix the whole idea.

I fail to see complaints/negativity/flak. What I see here is civil discussion with respect to pros and cons.

Honest communication is healthy (not unlike swimming!)

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And that is a healthy comparison. [emoji41]

And PS, either way this issue is resolved I will still be smiling. How can you not smile living here?

Based on this logic, the use of the fitness centers should be open without cost to the residents. But that is not the case.

If you own a car, and you know where "Oakwood BBQ" on 441 in Lady Lake is located. Across the street is 'To Your Health', a gym that opened a couple of months ago. It's only $20 a month and they have a 60' indoor heated pool. They also have group classes, 3 indoor racquetball courts, hot tub, sauna, weights and machines.

Too-Your-Health-Spa Facebook

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I'm with you! :pepper2:

And based on the opposite logic, nothing would be open without cost - tennis, pickleball, neighborhood pools.

Which is exactly the point I am making - would you prefer to pay separately each time you wanted to use any facility, or would you prefer to have it run communally where you pay a monthly fee and can use whatever you want?

I have no idea why the fitness centers charge, but just because they do is not a valid reason for starting down the rocky road of having other facilities charge, too.

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If you review my post #41, you'll find a list of recreation facilities that have a charge over and above the "without cost" notion. There is a mix of free vs fee opportunities in TV now. Most of the current and future facilities are paid for by mechanisms we all share in...Rec centers, neighborhood pools, etc.

Our amenity fees are high enough now (IMO) and I have no hesitation stating there are neighbors among us who have some difficulty paying those now. Paying fees for added services may make a significant difference to them.

The "rocky road" was crossed years ago. Let's let the majority of traditional facilities remain fee free. But for new "special" facilities I'm strongly for "pay to play."

I'm still for the contrarian position.


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It is; eventually, the new will wear off, but until then I wonder if people will be saving seats, err, saving places in line? 😜

I don't want to be a negative Nancy, however, just imagine the fuss when the cost of a new indoor pool is published. This time last year this site was raging about the cost of stripping the MMPs. This was only about $.80 per rooftop, or $700,000. What do you think the comments will be with a multi-million dollar indoor pool? Even if the the building is paid for by the AAC settlement funds, the cost of operation will be footed by the residents. When that cost is known, all hell will break loose! Just sayin......

Your thoughts could have merit, Mleeja, but I don't think I follow your math. :)

Wow! 875,000 rooftops? Don't think so.

A common sense post...how refreshing. :thumbup:

I have neighbors who don't even have a golf cart, but they aren't whining about paying for the upkeep of the MMP's. Or maybe we should set up toll booths and make only those using the cart paths pay?

I don't play softball either, so should I have to pay for the upkeep of those first class facilities? Why can't they do with less fancy ball diamonds? And then there's the Polo Grounds.....

I prefer permanent landscaping and could do without the flowers planted twice (more?) a year at the end of the medians on some main roads...so should I be able to opt out of paying for those flowers to be planted?

In other words...where does it stop? :oops:

It's analogous to the fact, that we don't get to direct where our personal tax dollars are spent either.

And for those who don't have kids, but whose taxes go toward supporting schools/education...that's a thread all its own. :D

And then we can have another Thread with all of the people who are complaining that we don`t have but need an indoor pool .

It is just a " head -shaker " to see how many people jump on something as soon as it becomes even a thought of a possibility .

To me this all comes under the heading " no good deed shall go unpunished " . And " don`t you dare even think of that " .

When you run the maintenance expense across the number of individual homes here in the Villages the increase to the monthly amenity fee if any should be hardly noticeable . Probably about the cost of a postage stamp each month .

Complaining and whining seems to be one of the more popular activities here in The Villages . Perhaps the Developer should include it in their marketing materials : " And also we are pleased to share that for those of you who have enjoyed a lifetime of carping and complaining that you will not have to give it up when you move to your new home " !

It is absolutely amazing that in 60+ posts re: an indoor pool is coming...... not one person seems to know that one of the BIG draws in The Villages advertising, when we were considering moving here, was the big indoor heated pool in the building where Lake Rehab facility is located on 441/27. It was a beautiful facility and hugely popular. Many water aerobic classes were held there and I am here to tell you, when it was announced that The Villages was closing that pool, hundreds of people threatened to leave the Villages. I don't know if any of them did or not. This was all about the same time that the big field, with the sign "Oh give me a home" and all the beautiful buffalo that we loved were taken from us. As were some of the best restaurants with dance floors closed and renovated into rec centers. In short..... what you are all witnessing in the present has been going on from the late "90s. You might as well make up your mind that a "change is gonn'a come" because it is. And I might add, for all the changes I have seen in over 16 years..... I would still not leave this place. I don't care how much money the Morse family makes and I am not privy to the business decisions made or the reasons why...... all I know is that they have provided my husband and I a beautiful, safe, friendly (or at least it used to be) community in which to reside and we are thankful for same.

This is a developer inspired project. clearly this business decision is made with the thought that construction costs, maintenance cost and other operations expenses will be transferred to others and if ownership remains with the developer the expectations of above average profits realized.

One poster said a draw to TV was an indoor pool. I do not believe very many residents moved here because of the idea of an indoor pool but rather golf.

Its interesting that the same people who push for everyone paying for more amenities complain about Comcast bundled package but then, a person's decision about keeping Comcast only affects them not others. So in my view all residents are entitled to cast a vote for any amenity that adds to their monthly fee

I find it interesting that people find it convenient to be spending other peoples money. so I wonder when will it stop. Socialism breeds entitlement. On the other hand if the developer has made a decision to build an indoor pool and offer private membership for a profit then by all means have at it, its the American way. it also a determinant as to how badly one really wants or needs such a facility.

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On of the biggest draw for us , was The Villages is not governed by a POA/HOA--you don not want to be governed by a bunch of ex wannabe middle managers with delusions of grandeur and power in their twilight years--its not fun-pits neighbor against neighbor

I agree. I also realize that, as a swimmer who would love an indoor pool, I am a member of the minority. I don't expect others to fund an indoor pool just because I would like to be able to swim any time I'd like. I swim at sports pools in the early morning to avoid the sun and am grateful to have several pools to choose from. The absence of an indoor pool did not affect our decision to move here.

I'm also not a fan of how this project was "announced" without the benefit of details of how it would be funded and sustained.

The timing is interesting as well. Hmm, could this be a bone being thrown?

We dont need no stink-en indoor pool

My wife is a big time lap swimmer, IMHO don't think any dedicated lap swimmers would have any problem paying a fee for swim time. With proper marketing it could be self funded, to @ least break even. The pool should be again dedicated for individuals-not games or classes. Otherwise uses times would be a problem.

The problem with that pool is it is only 20 yards, not the standard 25 yards. If you're a competitive swimmer this wouldn't work for you, although I think it would be great for the recreational swimmers.

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I'm holding my breath and reserving and judgment until I see an actual pool. Hopefully it will be 25 yards long, if it does come to fruition.

The Conceptual plan includes a Pitch and Putt Course.

Least You Forget ....
 

The Villages once had an indoor pool in Spanish Springs. It was shutdown and filled in. Lacked sufficient number of people who would pay the required fees. What goes around, comes around.

I believe this is an AAC funded project using the money from the $40 million settlement. It is supposed to help alleviate the additional units (about 300 single family plus 300 assisted living?) to be added in Districts 3 and 4.

That was when it was the Wellness Center. I worked the pool area on Wednesday mornings. They had a lot of classes and scheduled time for lap swimming, etc.

You should check your facts.

The rocky road of charging for facilities has been open for quite a while.
Examples include Fitness Centers, Championship Golf, Online Booking for Executive Golf, charge for use of golf cart, etc., etc.

Yes ------ as I said I doubt very much that it would add more the cost of a postage stamp to your monthly amenity fee .

It`s going to be a fun time here when the Developer turns everything over .

I can hear it now : " We don`t need those flowers , those fountains , all that landscaping along the roadways ".

" We don`t need the common areas along Buena Vista , Morse et al mowed more than once a month a most " .
" We don`t need to water the common areas ". " The trash for the Squares only need be collected every two weeks ".

And on and on it will go .

I assure you that I saw the irony fully before I typed my first word .

However it remains true that there are a number of people who seem to love to complain about anything and do so very often on this site .

Yes it is their right and for some it is their passion and seems for some to be their number one Village Activity .

Many seem to think everything should be free and others believe that everything / most amenities should be paid for based on a fee per use .

That's a scary thought !! I hope Morse family will be around for a long time!!!