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Greg Nelson 08-15-2016 10:38 AM

Amen!
 
[QUOTE=mickey100;1272071]I think if you look at larger well known retirement communities like Sun City and Del Webb for example, they all seem to offer both indoor and outdoor pools. I really think The Villages missed the boat on this one initially, but offering and indoor pool At this point will bring us up to par with the competition. Whether or not you personally use it, there are plenty of people that will. . We have a high number of elite athletes that do triathlons or are on the Villages swim team that really need a pool with cooler temperatures in the warm months to do adequate training. I don't begrudge the money spent on softball fields even though I don't play. Or tennis, or the myriad of sports that are offered. The Villages prides itself on offering amenities for the active lifestyle, and an indoor pool is a natural extension of that philosophy.[/QUOTE AMEN!

graciegirl 08-15-2016 10:46 AM

[QUOTE=Greg Nelson;1272136]
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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 1272071)
I think if you look at larger well known retirement communities like Sun City and Del Webb for example, they all seem to offer both indoor and outdoor pools. I really think The Villages missed the boat on this one initially, but offering and indoor pool At this point will bring us up to par with the competition. Whether or not you personally use it, there are plenty of people that will. . We have a high number of elite athletes that do triathlons or are on the Villages swim team that really need a pool with cooler temperatures in the warm months to do adequate training. I don't begrudge the money spent on softball fields even though I don't play. Or tennis, or the myriad of sports that are offered. The Villages prides itself on offering amenities for the active lifestyle, and an indoor pool is a natural extension of that philosophy.[/QUOTE AMEN!

Who even comes CLOSE to The Villages????

bagboy 08-15-2016 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=Greg Nelson;1272136]
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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 1272071)
I think if you look at larger well known retirement communities like Sun City and Del Webb for example, they all seem to offer both indoor and outdoor pools. I really think The Villages missed the boat on this one initially, but offering and indoor pool At this point will bring us up to par with the competition. Whether or not you personally use it, there are plenty of people that will. . We have a high number of elite athletes that do triathlons or are on the Villages swim team that really need a pool with cooler temperatures in the warm months to do adequate training. I don't begrudge the money spent on softball fields even though I don't play. Or tennis, or the myriad of sports that are offered. The Villages prides itself on offering amenities for the active lifestyle, and an indoor pool is a natural extension of that philosophy.[/QUOTE AMEN!

I am guessing that there will be a number of Villagers who will want to use an indoor pool for "just relaxing" and avoiding the hot sun. And a number of athletes who want to excercise and/or swim laps, and participate in organized events. In my mind, there will have to be a balance reached to accommodate everyone.

dbussone 08-15-2016 11:48 AM

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1272142]
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Originally Posted by Greg Nelson (Post 1272136)



Who even comes CLOSE to The Villages????



I have to agree wholeheartedly. We looked at a couple of Del Webb/Sun City communities before we found The Villages. After that there was no sense looking elsewhere.


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tophcfa 09-05-2016 11:00 AM

Good Idea
 
I for one think an indoor 25 yard long sport/lap swimming pool would be a great idea! As a dedicated lap swimmer' I would gladly pay a fee! Lap swimmers currently are very limited in the outdoor sport pools. We generally can only swim very early AM or before dark. The pools are taken by other activities during the rest of the day. Also, backstrokers desperately need pools with flags so they don't hit their heads on the wall (ouch). Also, I think it is great to see the developer adding much needed amenities in an area where they are not trying to sell new homes. Will miss the dog park where the pool is planned, but progress always comes at a price.

goodtimesintv 09-05-2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1283666)
I for one think an indoor 25 yard long sport/lap swimming pool would be a great idea! As a dedicated lap swimmer' I would gladly pay a fee! Lap swimmers currently are very limited in the outdoor sport pools. We generally can only swim very early AM or before dark. The pools are taken by other activities during the rest of the day. Also, backstrokers desperately need pools with flags so they don't hit their heads on the wall (ouch). Also, I think it is great to see the developer adding much needed amenities in an area where they are not trying to sell new homes. Will miss the dog park where the pool is planned, but progress always comes at a price.

I agree with everything you said. Perhaps the fees for an indoor regulation lap-competitive pool could be part of the Priority Golf-Pool-Tennis, or Priority Pool-Tennis, or Priority Pool upgrade memberships.

Or it could be a separate membership fee like the fitness or woodshop facilities, but that wouldn't have as many payers as Priority Golf-Pool-Tennis, who are basically buying a "country-club" type upgrade.

Topspinmo 09-05-2016 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1269123)
According to the online tabloid.......

In a surprise announcement, District Manager Janet Tutt told the audience that she had been notified by The Villages that they are intending to build an indoor pool. Many Villagers who have fought skin cancer and other ailments have called for an indoor pool, but the AAC has been stonewalled by residents who don’t want “their pool” converted to a shaded or covered pool.

“We do not have additional details at this time,” Tutt said. “In light of this discussion, they wanted to make sure we were aware of it.”


Usual complainers, start your engines.

:pepper2::pepper2::pepper2:

She and Rotan probably pushing it on the developers land over by Rio Grande pool so the developers can get some of they're law suit money back. They keep pushing this parcel over the 40 acres in the north (not the NE) that lacks amenities which the law suit was over IMO. Course I sure all that live south el Camino Reno have different opinions? :popcorn:

outlaw 09-06-2016 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1283774)
She and Rotan probably pushing it on the developers land over by Rio Grande pool so the developers can get some of they're law suit money back. They keep pushing this parcel over the 40 acres in the north (not the NE) that lacks amenities which the law suit was over IMO. Course I sure all that live south el Camino Reno have different opinions? :popcorn:

I noticed that, also. I laughed when I read that the privately owned remaining land contiguous to the Morse property could be purchased using the "fast take" process. That sounds like a well thought out plan. This was actually proposed by Ms. Tutt! Purchase the Morse property; then purchase the remaining surrounding property using the court system to force the owners to sell. Not to mention the access and parking issues with this location. It is so obvious, and yet, I'm afraid the district supervisors are seriously considering this foolish endeavor.

outlaw 09-06-2016 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by goodtimesintv (Post 1283728)
I agree with everything you said. Perhaps the fees for an indoor regulation lap-competitive pool could be part of the Priority Golf-Pool-Tennis, or Priority Pool-Tennis, or Priority Pool upgrade memberships.

Or it could be a separate membership fee like the fitness or woodshop facilities, but that wouldn't have as many payers as Priority Golf-Pool-Tennis, who are basically buying a "country-club" type upgrade.

The priority memberships still require a substantial user fee each time the facility is used; as much as $8 per person for tennis, $30-$40 for golf?; pools are free, but are open to families. I wonder how many people would be willing to pay $5-$8 each time plus a monthly fee to use an indoor swimming pool. I'm guessing very few.

graciegirl 09-06-2016 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1284120)
I noticed that, also. I laughed when I read that the privately owned remaining land contiguous to the Morse property could be purchased using the "fast take" process. That sounds like a well thought out plan. This was actually proposed by Ms. Tutt! Purchase the Morse property; then purchase the remaining surrounding property using the court system to force the owners to sell. Not to mention the access and parking issues with this location. It is so obvious, and yet, I'm afraid the district supervisors are seriously considering this foolish endeavor.

Can you substantiate this at all?

Bogie Shooter 09-06-2016 10:01 AM

If you think this thread is long and full of opinions (?), just wait till the pool is built.......then the real bitching will begin.

Allegiance 09-06-2016 10:15 AM

The pool just got bigger!

Let's all chant....BUILD THAT POOL

baustgen 09-06-2016 11:03 AM

With more than 80 pools accessible for the residents, and not more than a short golf cart ride between them, it would seem reasonable for at least 5 be covered. Four poles and a canvas roof would be cheaper than indoor pools. Seniors with Sun issues are paying for amenities they cannot use.

Villageswimmer 09-06-2016 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by baustgen (Post 1284242)
With more than 80 pools accessible for the residents, and not more than a short golf cart ride between them, it would seem reasonable for at least 5 be covered. Four poles and a canvas roof would be cheaper than indoor pools. Seniors with Sun issues are paying for amenities they cannot use.


Agree.
If memory serves, they attempted to do that at LaHacienda sports pool not too long ago and folks up there threw a huge hissy fit. So much so that TV scrapped the idea. Now, where is the indoor pool going?

Topspinmo 09-06-2016 12:32 PM

Just half tin roof over the pools! Half pool for the sun worshippers and half pool for the thin skinned:beer3:

Topspinmo 09-06-2016 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1284181)
Can you substantiate this at all?

Yes, by reading between the lines and who's bread in butter! :eclipsee_gold_cup:

graciegirl 09-06-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1283774)
She and Rotan probably pushing it on the developers land over by Rio Grande pool so the developers can get some of they're law suit money back. They keep pushing this parcel over the 40 acres in the north (not the NE) that lacks amenities which the law suit was over IMO. Course I sure all that live south el Camino Reno have different opinions? :popcorn:

It's Rohan. Not sure just what you are trying to say. I can tell you this..

I am NOT a fan of the POA.

Topspinmo 09-06-2016 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1284305)
It's Rohan. Not sure just what you are trying to say. I can tell you this..

I am NOT a fan of the POA.

Some of use don't have choice above the mason Dixon line.

I guess you don't get the POA news and read the minutes of the meetings. It don't effect you all south of the mason Dixon line yet due to the developer still in charge and owns amenities what I understand? Correct me it I'm wrong?

Basically Ms. Tutt pushing developers property and I think she enlisted MR. ROHAN ( the developer's main man?) which it seems most POA members aren't that interested in that area in district 3 and 4) for the final push. Even though the 8 acres mol around 100k vs 3 mil for 40 acres. Which would be good for district 1 and 2, but does nothing for 3 and 4 IMO.

Rio grande NE of 466. IMO that area has ample ammenties or less lacking than far north. North 466 above Glenview (el Camino Reno). with the expansion of District 4 are and was lacking Amenities IMO and others the live in the far north.

mickey100 09-07-2016 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1284129)
The priority memberships still require a substantial user fee each time the facility is used; as much as $8 per person for tennis, $30-$40 for golf?; pools are free, but are open to families. I wonder how many people would be willing to pay $5-$8 each time plus a monthly fee to use an indoor swimming pool. I'm guessing very few.

The going rate is more like $5 - $10 with no monthly fee. At least that is what we pay as a daily rate at health clubs and ymca's when we are on the road. And that gives access to a lot more than just a swimming pool.

i don't think we have to worry about The Villages undercharging.

graciegirl 09-07-2016 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 1284569)
The going rate is more like $5 - $10 with no monthly fee. At least that is what we pay as a daily rate at health clubs and ymca's when we are on the road. And that gives access to a lot more than just a swimming pool.

i don't think we have to worry about The Villages undercharging.



And I think the prices are way fair.

graciegirl 09-07-2016 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1284319)
Some of use don't have choice above the mason Dixon line.

I guess you don't get the POA news and read the minutes of the meetings. It don't effect you all south of the mason Dixon line yet due to the developer still in charge and owns amenities what I understand? Correct me it I'm wrong?

Basically Ms. Tutt pushing developers property and I think she enlisted MR. ROHAN ( the developer's main man?) which it seems most POA members aren't that interested in that area in district 3 and 4) for the final push. Even though the 8 acres mol around 100k vs 3 mil for 40 acres. Which would be good for district 1 and 2, but does nothing for 3 and 4 IMO.

Rio grande NE of 466. IMO that area has ample ammenties or less lacking than far north. North 466 above Glenview (el Camino Reno). with the expansion of District 4 are and was lacking Amenities IMO and others the live in the far north.


John Rohan has been the Director of Recreation for many years and has a great new Rec center built in his honor.


More about him;
John B. Rohan, Director of Recreation
352-674-1800
John.Rohan@Districtgov.org

John B. Rohan has worked for The Villages Community Development District since 1993. John’s leadership extends to several areas within the recreation department that include Executive Golf, Fitness Clubs, Special Events and Room Reservations. These facilities are managed with a budget of $20 million per year and over 500 full and part time employees.

He has witnessed and experienced firsthand the positive impact recreation has had on the residents of our community. Through his experience in recreation management, recreational programming, and special event management, John encourages resident’s involvement in creating a healthy and active lifestyle in the community.

John received his Bachelor’s degree in Recreation from the University of Florida in 1993 and his Master’s Degree in Public Administration from Troy State University in 2002. He is an active supporter and member of the Florida Recreation & Park Association and the National Recreation & Park Association.

John serves on the Children’s Advocacy Center Board, Operation Homebound, St. Timothy’s Pastoral council, Knights of Columbus and highly involved in The Villages Charter School. He and his wife, Krissy Rohan, Director of the Little Buffalo Learning Center enjoy the outdoors and spending time with their children, John Michael and Chelsea who are both attending college in Gainesville, FL.


Click here to view the Recreation Department’s Purpose, Vision, Mission and Core Values

Topspinmo 09-07-2016 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1284586)
John Rohan has been the Director of Recreation for many years and has this great new Rec center built in his honor.


I rest my case?;)

Carl in Tampa 09-07-2016 07:29 PM

Opinions, opinions......
 
Let's see..... In a community of over 100,000 people, a new proposal is announced and there are a multitude of opinions on both sides of the issue.

And there are even some opinions that (gasp) the Developer is proposing something solely so that the Developer can make a profit.

---------------------------------------

I have visited several retirement communities in Florida and California, and have never seen one that approaches the value (for cost to the resident) of The Villages. I'm sure the Developer faced similar resistance to other proposals that were put forward in the past.

To me, one of their big missteps was to build the Brownwood Town Square so far south. It should have been more centrally located between 466A and 44, and centrally between Buena Vista and Morse. But, there are probably 50,000 contrary opinions about this.

goodtimesintv 09-07-2016 08:58 PM

I think the developers know more about how to fund and build a facility like this than everyone here combined.

If some here know so much, why haven't they done it already....starting with mortgaging everything you own, including retirement funds.

:ohdear:

2BNTV 09-08-2016 10:42 AM

I believe the "indoor pool" request has been on the annual survey for several years. Now the developer has decided an indoor pool would be beneficial for some residents. Some people have requested a shaded/indoor pool as they have skin cancer or swimming, is their major form of exercise. There has been a variety of opinions, pro and con. I would tend to think, more than one indoor pool may have to be built as the demand may be overwhelming. As usual, something gets panned, before it even opens it's doors. You can't make everyone happy, seems to apply.

I shutter at the thought if the Morse family ever relinquishes control of the paradise they built. Having it run by the residents who only want to pay a pro rated fee for the amenities they only use, is folly. For what is available, it's truly amazing and inexpensive. IMHO

I don't use all of the amenities but I don't begrudge anyone who does. I am not a pool person so I don't have a dog in this fight. I take comfort in the Morse family saying their grandchildren will take over the running of TV, so my concern level is zero.

I lived in a condo in CT before moving to TV and the condo board did a lousy job. TV system seems to run like clockwork. IMHO If the inmates ever start running the asylum, I may have to rethink my viewpoint! :smiley:

Allegiance 09-08-2016 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 1285235)
I believe the "indoor pool" request has been on the annual survey for several years. Now the developer has decided an indoor pool would be beneficial for some residents. Some people have requested a shaded/indoor pool as they have skin cancer or swimming, is their major form of exercise. There has been a variety of opinions, pro and con. I would tend to think, more than one indoor pool may have to be built as the demand may be overwhelming. As usual, something gets panned, before it even opens it's doors. You can't make everyone happy, seems to apply.

I shutter at the thought if the Morse family ever relinquishes control of the paradise they built. Having it run by the residents who only want to pay a pro rated fee for the amenities they only use, is folly. For what is available, it's truly amazing and inexpensive. IMHO

I don't use all of the amenities but I don't begrudge anyone who does. I am not a pool person so I don't have a dog in this fight. I take comfort in the Morse family saying their grandchildren will take over the running of TV, so my concern level is zero.

I lived in a condo in CT before moving to TV and the condo board did a lousy job. TV system seems to run like clockwork. IMHO If the inmates ever start running the asylum, I may have to rethink my viewpoint! :smiley:

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Bonny 09-08-2016 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 1285235)
I believe the "indoor pool" request has been on the annual survey for several years. Now the developer has decided an indoor pool would be beneficial for some residents. Some people have requested a shaded/indoor pool as they have skin cancer or swimming, is their major form of exercise. There has been a variety of opinions, pro and con. I would tend to think, more than one indoor pool may have to be built as the demand may be overwhelming. As usual, something gets panned, before it even opens it's doors. You can't make everyone happy, seems to apply.

I shutter at the thought if the Morse family ever relinquishes control of the paradise they built. Having it run by the residents who only want to pay a pro rated fee for the amenities they only use, is folly. For what is available, it's truly amazing and inexpensive. IMHO

I don't use all of the amenities but I don't begrudge anyone who does. I am not a pool person so I don't have a dog in this fight. I take comfort in the Morse family saying their grandchildren will take over the running of TV, so my concern level is zero.

I lived in a condo in CT before moving to TV and the condo board did a lousy job. TV system seems to run like clockwork. IMHO If the inmates ever start running the asylum, I may have to rethink my viewpoint! :smiley:

Well said !! I agree!!

graciegirl 09-08-2016 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 1285235)
I believe the "indoor pool" request has been on the annual survey for several years. Now the developer has decided an indoor pool would be beneficial for some residents. Some people have requested a shaded/indoor pool as they have skin cancer or swimming, is their major form of exercise. There has been a variety of opinions, pro and con. I would tend to think, more than one indoor pool may have to be built as the demand may be overwhelming. As usual, something gets panned, before it even opens it's doors. You can't make everyone happy, seems to apply.

I shutter at the thought if the Morse family ever relinquishes control of the paradise they built. Having it run by the residents who only want to pay a pro rated fee for the amenities they only use, is folly. For what is available, it's truly amazing and inexpensive. IMHO

I don't use all of the amenities but I don't begrudge anyone who does. I am not a pool person so I don't have a dog in this fight. I take comfort in the Morse family saying their grandchildren will take over the running of TV, so my concern level is zero.

I lived in a condo in CT before moving to TV and the condo board did a lousy job. TV system seems to run like clockwork. IMHO If the inmates ever start running the asylum, I may have to rethink my viewpoint! :smiley:

Excellent post!

Bonny 09-08-2016 12:23 PM

Just kind of chuckling to myself, looking at 15 pages talking about something we don't even have, don't know when we will have it or where it will be or how using it will work or how it will work out payment wise.
Enjoying reading it. ;)

Villageswimmer 09-08-2016 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 1285235)
I believe the "indoor pool" request has been on the annual survey for several years. Now the developer has decided an indoor pool would be beneficial for some residents. Some people have requested a shaded/indoor pool as they have skin cancer or swimming, is their major form of exercise. There has been a variety of opinions, pro and con. I would tend to think, more than one indoor pool may have to be built as the demand may be overwhelming. As usual, something gets panned, before it even opens it's doors. You can't make everyone happy, seems to apply.

I shutter at the thought if the Morse family ever relinquishes control of the paradise they built. Having it run by the residents who only want to pay a pro rated fee for the amenities they only use, is folly. For what is available, it's truly amazing and inexpensive. IMHO

I don't use all of the amenities but I don't begrudge anyone who does. I am not a pool person so I don't have a dog in this fight. I take comfort in the Morse family saying their grandchildren will take over the running of TV, so my concern level is zero.

I lived in a condo in CT before moving to TV and the condo board did a lousy job. TV system seems to run like clockwork. IMHO If the inmates ever start running the asylum, I may have to rethink my viewpoint! :smiley:


Amen! :bowdown: especially your second paragraph.


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