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kstew43 03-08-2015 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1025541)
Yes. And the inmates of the asylum are howling.

sorry, just trying to stand up for my self from some who possibly don't comprehend what they read, or don't read the entire statement or possibly misinterpret what they have read.

I'm over it and out...

Moderator 03-08-2015 05:53 PM

Please direct your comments to the question of the posters in the billiard room at Fishhawk. Please discuss or criticize a member's opinion but not the member himself or herself.

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dbussone 03-08-2015 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1025536)
just so you know, i have a cyv we turned it into a rental because we wanted a little slower pace, and a lot less stress. we pay our $145 just like you do, but give our renters the cards. we also have a main home in Miami and another in the plantations and are currently looking for a village cottage to overnight and store some toys.

I have financial freedom and I have an opinion, get over it....

I hope you enjoy TV. It really is a wonderful place.

triton18 03-08-2015 06:02 PM

At your age if things like that bother you I feel sorry for you. Not sure what bubble you have lived in. Time to loosen up or sign up for the trip to Mars they are taking applications now.

hansel 03-08-2015 06:37 PM

PLEEZEE With all that is going on in the world today it this conversation really necessary??????

pmbinnj 03-08-2015 06:48 PM

How does an innocuous post about pictures in a rec center bring about such mean-spiritedness?

Chazz 03-08-2015 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pmbinnj (Post 1025569)
How does an innocuous post about pictures in a rec center bring about such mean-spiritedness?

That's because some people have no respect for anyone's opinion that differs from their own. That is the same for the world outside TV, as well.

sunnyatlast 03-08-2015 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pmbinnj (Post 1025569)
How does an innocuous post about pictures in a rec center bring about such mean-spiritedness?

People want to have things their own way. Some pick up their marbles and move back home.

Two tasteless decorating items amongst thousands is a pretty good track record. Most developers would put in paneling and those vinyl banquet tables and chairs from Sams, and leave it at that.

We get endless style and ambience with these themed rec centers. Think Eisenhower Rec Center. I cry when I read the letters from P.O.W.'s there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Re3G1Cbv3M

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kcrazorbackfan 03-08-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiquer505 (Post 1025327)
So if it bothers someone that his child is called negative names at school he should just keep the child out of school? Or if there is a racist sign in a public place we should all stay away from that public place? And if a teenager thinks those signs at Fish Hawk are acceptable thinking--how does that help form his personality and further society's attempts at treating people well and with respect?

Wow! You know this is IS 2015 and not back in the '40's or '50's, states are legalizing pot and gay marriage is legal now in most states?

The20Percent 03-08-2015 07:44 PM

I'm not playing in this sandbox, there's way too many clumps in it.

lafoto 03-08-2015 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 1025492)
The moment anyone mentioned that it is politically correct to be offended by these posters, I cast my vote. . . to keep them. Political correctness is should be properly re-labeled: Political Dumbness.:spoken:

Bingo! If you don't like what you see, look away! If you dont like what you hear, change the channel!

pivo 03-08-2015 07:53 PM

Please tell me where to sign up--I'll pay anything to learn how
to keep my rod up

manaboutown 03-08-2015 08:04 PM

I googled "fly fishing poster" and on "Fly Fishing on Pinterest" the two in Fish Hawk appeared among 69 pins.

DougB 03-08-2015 08:09 PM

I've got a bush in my front yard. Should I have it removed? I wouldn't want to offend anybody.

Warren Kiefer 03-08-2015 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by red tail (Post 1025542)
whats nasty about it???

Just how plain do you want me to be. For most people the terms bush and rod was very evident. Or how about another. The term shoot a beaver meant being able to see up a woman's dress. Red Tail, I think I will stop at this point. You are apparently very naïve. I have already went too far. Sorry. But I can assure you most men in a show of disrespect for women, using the terms combined with the pictures, have no doubt about the meaning of the words.

Colts Fan 03-08-2015 08:23 PM

There are way too many people who are way too sensitive about way too many things. If I agreed with all of them, I would be offended by everyone and everything. Maybe it would be best to just turn a vision impaired eye and hearing challenged ear to the things that bother us sometimes.

dbussone 03-08-2015 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1025543)
sorry, just trying to stand up for my self from some who possibly don't comprehend what they read, or don't read the entire statement or possibly misinterpret what they have read.



I'm over it and out...


You have no reason to apologize. Your opinion is as valuable as anyone else's. I learned that a long time ago in debate class.

57ChevyFI 03-08-2015 09:07 PM

Bottom line, if they are not innuendo savvy, it's easy to explain the what it really means, when you are fly fishing, you need to keep the rod tip up so it easier to keep the fish on, easy to explain to grand kids. If the grand kids perceive it as suggestive, then that is probably the most tame thing they have seen and they know and understand much more. I just have a hard time thinking six year, 10 year old grand kids would really get the joke, if they did, then that is a little scary. I can remember seeing Shrek, which is a cartoon FOR KIDS G rated when they see the castle which is tall and slender, Shrek looks at Donkey and says, " So you think maybe he's compensating for something". Something like that is easy to explain. A sense of humor is a terrible thing to waste. My philosophy is don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. Adult community, give them the adult answer without the innuendo.

Cathy H 03-08-2015 10:10 PM

I will only do one post on this issue and it is to say that the posters demean women and should be replaced with more neutral material

Topspinmo 03-08-2015 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TV-4-2;1025***
What an amazing amount of "hooey" raised by one person who appears to be very easily offended.
If we remove those posters, then we would have to remove the "(ate)" 8 ball, both the 6 & 9 balls, maybe "balls" in general, cue sticks with "butts" and "shafts," poolroom terminology like "breaking the balls" and "stroking" correctly," not even allowing mention of "screwing the shaft into the butt" of a 2-piece pool cue, and turn it into a Ping-Pong room (oops, that use "paddles" to hit the "balls."
I'm 71 years old and I still get amazed at many peoples' view of the world around them.

I agree!


When I go shoot pool in what ever Rec. Center I shoot pool and concentrate on my game. I have never noticed what was on the wall, floors, or ceiling.

Wandatime 03-08-2015 10:38 PM

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Kids are a LOT savvier than we think, and those pictures in that billiards room are not the problem. Any kid who sees those pictures and understand the double entendre' has probably already seen a lot worse.

What is the Average Age That a Teen Starts Sexting?

I'll risk a chance on a kid seeing those fishing pictures, especially when compared to the Bratz dolls five and six year old girls play with today. I'm attaching a picture of one. Frankly, I think these should be taken off the market, along with thong panties for pre-teen girls. Yes, those are available at all department stores. But those are MY boundaries. We all have different ones.

Our kids are already so overloaded on a daily basis with the likes of Miley, the Kardashians, and any "Housewives" franchise that I think a couple of retro girlie posters should be the least of a parent's worries.

However, for those of you that still think it is inappropriate, let me ask you this. How far are you willing to go? We can politically correct ourselves right into a society that accepts nothing less than the most conservative of ideology where no one talks about sex, no one drinks alcohol, women are seen fully clothed at all times when in public . . . oh, wait, some countries are already doing that.

Some of us dislike girlie posters and some of us dislike Bratz dolls and some of us dislike seeing older women in skimpy get-ups having a little too much to drink down there at the square. The good news is that we live in a country where we get to freely vocalize our likes and dislikes. Not everyone will agree with us and the change we seek may or may not happen.

I know a lot of you are not going to agree with my post. And that's okay.

handyman 03-08-2015 11:27 PM

Better keep the kids out of Eisenhower,just a warning,some pretty racy nose art that you may not want to explain to the kids .

DonH57 03-09-2015 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by handyman (Post 1025704)
Better keep the kids out of Eisenhower,just a warning,some pretty racy nose art that you may not want to explain to the kids .

I've been in there a few times and I missed the nose art? I'll have to look closer next time. I love the nose art on aircraft. It had to be one of the best moral booster for our boys overseas during those times.:wave:

Barefoot 03-09-2015 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 1025374)
If you find this upsetting, I would not turn on the radio , TV or go to the movies.

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1025385)
Make sure you don't take your kids by the many cow pastures when the bulls are out, or Alice you might have some splainin to do. Give me a break I've seen worse on Dancing With The Stars and Super Bowl Half time shows. Those pictures are not offensive. JMO

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Originally Posted by Colts Fan (Post 1025614)
There are way too many people who are way too sensitive about way too many things. If I agreed with all of them, I would be offended by everyone and everything.

:agree: As Dougbee said "Much ado about nothing".

handyman 03-09-2015 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 1025709)
I've been in there a few times and I missed the nose art? I'll have to look closer next time. I love the nose art on aircraft. It had to be one of the best moral booster for our boys overseas during those times.:wave:

First room to the Right.

lake5798 03-09-2015 04:59 AM

Well said Wanda!!!!

graciegirl 03-09-2015 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 1025613)
Just how plain do you want me to be. For most people the terms bush and rod was very evident. Or how about another. The term shoot a beaver meant being able to see up a woman's dress. Red Tail, I think I will stop at this point. You are apparently very naïve. I have already went too far. Sorry. But I can assure you most men in a show of disrespect for women, using the terms combined with the pictures, have no doubt about the meaning of the words.

ANY 12 year old could log into this forum and read what you just posted which has your name on it.

Eight years ago when our grandchildren were teens they logged in to this forum to see just what The Villages were all about when we said we were moving here and read my posts.

Kids know a LOT about US. Yes they do. There is also an Urban Dictionary readily available on the net.

graciegirl 03-09-2015 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Wandatime (Post 1025693)
Kids are a LOT savvier than we think, and those pictures in that billiards room are not the problem. Any kid who sees those pictures and understand the double entendre' has probably already seen a lot worse.

What is the Average Age That a Teen Starts Sexting?

I'll risk a chance on a kid seeing those fishing pictures, especially when compared to the Bratz dolls five and six year old girls play with today. I'm attaching a picture of one. Frankly, I think these should be taken off the market, along with thong panties for pre-teen girls. Yes, those are available at all department stores. But those are MY boundaries. We all have different ones.

Our kids are already so overloaded on a daily basis with the likes of Miley, the Kardashians, and any "Housewives" franchise that I think a couple of retro girlie posters should be the least of a parent's worries.

However, for those of you that still think it is inappropriate, let me ask you this. How far are you willing to go? We can politically correct ourselves right into a society that accepts nothing less than the most conservative of ideology where no one talks about sex, no one drinks alcohol, women are seen fully clothed at all times when in public . . . oh, wait, some countries are already doing that.

Some of us dislike girlie posters and some of us dislike Bratz dolls and some of us dislike seeing older women in skimpy get-ups having a little too much to drink down there at the square. The good news is that we live in a country where we get to freely vocalize our likes and dislikes. Not everyone will agree with us and the change we seek may or may not happen.

I know a lot of you are not going to agree with my post. And that's okay.

Excellent post.

Madelaine Amee 03-09-2015 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiquer505 (Post 1025317)
The pictures aren't the issue. It's the language. "We'll take you deep into the Bush" and "We'll teach you to keep your Rod up"...combine with the pinup posters. I can hear the man cave snickering from here.

I reread your first post and then reread this one above ........... and it occurs to me that you had to explain in more detail just how "dirty" these pin-up posters were.

I have been married for many years, have raised two sons, worked and traveled and yet you had to take apart the posters to explain to us all in detail that the words bush and rod are indecent! I have never before thought of the words bush and rod as being erotica, but then I guess I don't go through life looking for the double entendre in everything. Your thinking reminds me of the censors who used to go through all the movies looking for imagined filth.

xNYer 03-09-2015 06:17 AM

Posters
 
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Originally Posted by Cathy H (Post 1025679)
I will only do one post on this issue and it is to say that the posters demean women and should be replaced with more neutral material

It's not fair to say that all the posters on this board are mean to women.

I am so tired of politically correct thinking and attacks on the developer.

buzzy 03-09-2015 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xNYer (Post 1025746)
It's not fair to say that all the posters on this board are mean to women.

I am so tired of politically correct thinking and attacks on the developer.

No wonder people can't communicate on a message board.

Bonny 03-09-2015 07:05 AM

The big problem lies in where does it stop. Now it's a petition for pictures on a rec center wall. Then it will go to the movies at the squares, then the books in the library, etc..... The world is a big place filled with all kinds of life. Some is awesome, some is not. But it's a good thing that someone isn't censoring everything and controlling all that we are allowed to see & do.

Allegiance 03-09-2015 07:21 AM

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...c19bb47b9b.jpg

Bonny 03-09-2015 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1025766)

And lots of happy hours. LOL :p

Taltarzac725 03-09-2015 08:01 AM

FunTrivia a very heavily used trivia web-site is very family friendly and will boot people who use foul language and post r and/or x rated kind of language. That's in the public section of it though. I have had some particularly foul attacks on me when I am in a private group challenging one another to get the most questions right and fastest in a Tournament. And if someone really starts complaining then the culprit in the private Tournament gets banned for whatever time the moderator deems appropriate. http://www.funtrivia.com/?ref=Taltarzac

My point is context in important.

If you hell "God is great" during a showing of American Sniper you might have a half dozen guys and gals tackling you. And, this might be in the Villages even if most of these six would be over 65.

The pool room posters just show me that there is life here in some in the Villages. And life with all its foibles.

Bay Kid 03-09-2015 08:30 AM

Really????

graciegirl 03-09-2015 08:39 AM

I love the whole pin up genre of art. It is a real kind of art from the era of the forties. It includes the artist Varga and also encompasses all of the the nose cone art from the second world war pilots airplanes. It was not demeaning to women unless you have that mind set. We were all young and better looking than we are now, and most of us have pictures of us snapped in our bathing suits.

I am offended by people offended by the fact that was included in the art hung on the wall of that rec center because it absolutely fit in with a fish camp pool room of that era's décor. I don't have stuff like that in my house because that is not the kind of décor I have, but it is part and parcel of the art of that era. Including the double entendres.

GOOD GRIEF. Do we have any body who is old enough to post on a senior forum. I was a small child in the forties and I saw this kind of pin up art as a child and I am still kicking. Nose cone art below. Disclaimer, don't open if you will be offended by what our pilots put on their airplanes back then.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...ies&FORM=BILH1

graciegirl 03-09-2015 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Wandatime (Post 1025693)
Kids are a LOT savvier than we think, and those pictures in that billiards room are not the problem. Any kid who sees those pictures and understand the double entendre' has probably already seen a lot worse.

What is the Average Age That a Teen Starts Sexting?

I'll risk a chance on a kid seeing those fishing pictures, especially when compared to the Bratz dolls five and six year old girls play with today. I'm attaching a picture of one. Frankly, I think these should be taken off the market, along with thong panties for pre-teen girls. Yes, those are available at all department stores. But those are MY boundaries. We all have different ones.

Our kids are already so overloaded on a daily basis with the likes of Miley, the Kardashians, and any "Housewives" franchise that I think a couple of retro girlie posters should be the least of a parent's worries.

However, for those of you that still think it is inappropriate, let me ask you this. How far are you willing to go? We can politically correct ourselves right into a society that accepts nothing less than the most conservative of ideology where no one talks about sex, no one drinks alcohol, women are seen fully clothed at all times when in public . . . oh, wait, some countries are already doing that.

Some of us dislike girlie posters and some of us dislike Bratz dolls and some of us dislike seeing older women in skimpy get-ups having a little too much to drink down there at the square. The good news is that we live in a country where we get to freely vocalize our likes and dislikes. Not everyone will agree with us and the change we seek may or may not happen.

I know a lot of you are not going to agree with my post. And that's okay.


Excellent post.

Warren Kiefer 03-09-2015 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1025742)
I reread your first post and then reread this one above ........... and it occurs to me that you had to explain in more detail just how "dirty" these pin-up posters were.

I have been married for many years, have raised two sons, worked and traveled and yet you had to take apart the posters to explain to us all in detail that the words bush and rod are indecent! I have never before thought of the words bush and rod as being erotica, but then I guess I don't go through life looking for the double entendre in everything. Your thinking reminds me of the censors who used to go through all the movies looking for imagined filth.

Let me explain it to you.. I am a man and have heard these words and many more, used in a show of disrespect for women. When one adds the words bush and rod to the photos, posed by women, here is no doubt of the meaning conveyed. Many responses seem to have no problem with these two pictures, If the photos were of scantily clothed men with similar suggestive words, would they feel the same. And to portray this as art or erotica is hogwash.

graciegirl 03-09-2015 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 1025824)
Let me explain it to you.. I am a man and have heard these words and many more, used in a show of disrespect for women. When one adds the words bush and rod to the photos, posed by women, here is no doubt of the meaning conveyed. Many responses seem to have no problem with these two pictures, If the photos were of scantily clothed men with similar suggestive words, would they feel the same. And to portray this as art or erotica is hogwash.

Now we know where you stand.


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