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It's Time to Roll Back the 25% Sumter County Tax Increase!

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Since the vast majority of the Villagers live in Sumter County I would like to see threads like this continue.

When a thread is of no interest to me rather easy to scroll on past.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:14 PM
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The first step is for the Commission to contract for a study of the cost of ALL county infrastructure (not just roads) that will be necessitated by the Developer's massive expansion of The Villages and to calculate an appropriate impact fee to pay for it. That study will have to be done in any case, and there is no reason to delay doing it.
You are absolutely correct about the cost analysis being required by the Florida Impact Fee Law. It must reflect actual expenses and developer sweetheart deals are prohibited.
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TOTV rules permit discussion of local politics and if you dont live in Sumter not every post has to be of interest to you.
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I think your information is not factual. All +55 community developers pay the same impact fee. The Villages does NOT get a discount or special treatment.
Impact fees are not the same for every 55+ developer. They must reflect the actual cost which will vary.
See Parts (f) and (g) below.
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1163.31801 Impact fees; short title; intent; minimum requirements; audits; challenges.—
(1) This section may be cited as the “Florida Impact Fee Act.”
(2) The Legislature finds that impact fees are an important source of revenue for a local government to use in funding the infrastructure necessitated by new growth. The Legislature further finds that impact fees are an outgrowth of the home rule power of a local government to provide certain services within its jurisdiction. Due to the growth of impact fee collections and local governments’ reliance on impact fees, it is the intent of the Legislature to ensure that, when a county or municipality adopts an impact fee by ordinance or a special district adopts an impact fee by resolution, the governing authority complies with this section.
(3) At a minimum, an impact fee adopted by ordinance of a county or municipality or by resolution of a special district must satisfy all of the following conditions:
(a) The calculation of the impact fee must be based on the most recent and localized data.
(b) The local government must provide for accounting and reporting of impact fee collections and expenditures. If a local governmental entity imposes an impact fee to address its infrastructure needs, the entity must account for the revenues and expenditures of such impact fee in a separate accounting fund.
(c) Administrative charges for the collection of impact fees must be limited to actual costs.
(d) The local government must provide notice not less than 90 days before the effective date of an ordinance or resolution imposing a new or increased impact fee. A county or municipality is not required to wait 90 days to decrease, suspend, or eliminate an impact fee.
(e) Collection of the impact fee may not be required to occur earlier than the date of issuance of the building permit for the property that is subject to the fee.
(f) The impact fee must be proportional and reasonably connected to, or have a rational nexus with, the need for additional capital facilities and the increased impact generated by the new residential or commercial construction.
(g) The impact fee must be proportional and reasonably connected to, or have a rational nexus with, the expenditures of the funds collected and the benefits accruing to the new residential or nonresidential construct
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I think your information is not factual. All +55 community developers pay the same impact fee. The Villages does NOT get a discount or special treatment.
How many other +55 Developers are there in Sumter County?

The sweetheart impact fee was limited to road costs, and it does not cover other infrastructure necessitated by the Developer's massive expansion of The Villages. To give the Developer even more of a break, the impact fee was set at only 40% of the amount deemed appropriate by the 2019 study, which study, as indicated, was limited to road costs.

If you want to see how understand how badly we are getting screwed, watch the video linked in my post and compare Sumter County with Collier County, a County where the Developer does not control the Commission.

Our tax was increased by 25% for only one reason-- to put the amount thereof into the Developer's pocket by maintaining his sweetheart impact fee. If you are okay with that, fine, but understand what you are okay about.
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How many other +55 Developers are there in Sumter County? If you are okay with that, fine, but understand what you are okay about.

It's available for any and all developers.


I do understand and I'm fine with it.


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Impact fees are not the same for every 55+ developer. They must reflect the actual cost which will vary.
See Parts (f) and (g) below.
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Within Sumter County the impact fee is all the same for +55 Developers
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Wrong again.

Within Sumter County the impact fee is all the same for +55 Developers
But you didnt say that did you. And if you read Part A of the law it does not have to be be county wide either if there are special costs associated with a particular project.
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But you didnt say that did you.
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I suspect repeal will not happen once those that were voted in have the responsibility for their actions. I also suspect that by slowing down growth COSTCO will never come here
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The first step is for the Commission to contract for a study of the cost of ALL county infrastructure (not just roads) that will be necessitated by the Developer's massive expansion of The Villages and to calculate an appropriate impact fee to pay for it. ...
And, the appropriate taxes to be payed by residents. Therefore, calls for a rollback are premature. Data driven decisions are always best.
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This is about corruption and taxes. It is not about politics.
So you say. And yet the infighting between the new Commissioners has already begun. Remember the parable about the goose who laid the golden eggs.
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Please do not lose sight of what you were elected to do and be taken in by the Developer's puppets' specious arguments. You need to rollback the 25% tax increase (completely if possible) and make up the lost revenue by increasing the Developer's sweetheart impact fee-- to cover not just roads but also ALL county infrastructure necessitated by the Developer's massive expansion of The Villages. Your doing so will be your legacy. Your not doing so will let down the residents of Sumter County and destroy both your reputation and your legacy. Remember, you were not elected to be friends with the Developer or with the Developer's remaining puppet Commissioners. What was going on at the County Commission for a number of years was political malfeasance at its worst. You were elected to clean it up, not to be nice guys.
It sounds like you're losing confidence in YOUR puppet Commissioners.. So many puppets, so little integrity.. lol
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And, the appropriate taxes to be payed by residents. Therefore, calls for a rollback are premature. Data driven decisions are always best.
Retconning a necessary tax increase is foolish. But expecting NO tax increase at all, is equally foolish. There needs to be a tax increase. But I don't think it needed to be 25%. I think there were, and still are, other avenues to reach out to, for increased revenue. And more cost-efficient decisions the county could make toward saving more, spending less, and still providing service to the towns.
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I wouldn’t mind subsidizing the developers impact fees, if it was the impact caused by building lots of new Championship golf courses. However, I have absolutely no desire to subsidize the impact fees necessitated by building tens of thousands of new homes, and now apartment complexes as well.

Roll, roll, roll them back, or build more Championship golf, south of 44. Hmmm, sounds like a song I herd before.
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