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Perhaps people who watch homes for a living should not throw stones at extremely successful women who run a huge and successful enterprise that is envied by almost everyone. Enjoy yourself this is a marvelous place to live run by some of the most talented people I know and I have met many. Spending time looking for flaws instead of looking for the good is not a good way to live.
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I agree. Another thread that has degenerated into a worship fest of "The Morses" along with the implication that anyone who doesn't support every single thing they do, or who suggests that there could be improvements made in our community, has some sort of agenda. Sigh. As far as communication, in addition to public meetings, we have newspapers, emails, internet, and so on. There is absolutely no reason information cannot be easily communicated.
We need to defend it, because over and over and over and over the same posters who seem to relish negativity come on and say dumb things and that ultimately harms the reputation of the really wonderful place this is.
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So because you don't like our form of government or you don't like the fact that people are happy here, Janet Tutt is a poor communicator? Give me a break
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Perhaps people who watch homes for a living should not throw stones at extremely successful women who run a huge and successful enterprise that is envied by almost everyone. Enjoy yourself this is a marvelous place to live run by some of the most talented people I know and I have met many. Spending time looking for flaws instead of looking for the good is not a good way to live.
Please show me where I have thrown a single stone at Ms. Tutt. The most negative thing I said was that I'm sure she would like everyone to agree with everything the Morses say and do (I phrased it badly and apologized for my phrasing). She'd be pretty dumb if she didn't since it would make her job that much easier.

As to the Morses, I'm basically in the middle. I truly admire what they have accomplished here. I don't begrudge them their money -- they took the risk, they had the foresight, they earned it. Do I like everything they do? No. Am I vocal about what I don't like? More or less. But I'm quicker to tell folks about how amazing TV is. My biggest vocal complaint is that I'm not conservative enough.

I do agree with those who said that the best way to squelch the rumors is to be forthcoming. Don't put up a wall in the middle of the night. Do listen when people complain (which they do most of the time, such as the traffic light at Colony).

Now, what does anything I have said have to do about my profession -- past or present?
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I agree. Another thread that has degenerated into a worship fest of "The Morses" along with the implication that anyone who doesn't support every single thing they do, or who suggests that there could be improvements made in our community, has some sort of agenda. Sigh. As far as communication, in addition to public meetings, we have newspapers, emails, internet, and so on. There is absolutely no reason information cannot be easily communicated.
"Kissing feet" and "worship fest" are not accurate descriptions but innacurrate embellishments designed to to do what? The Morse Family and Janet Tutt want nothing but the best and they have proven it time after time rewarded by a sales of homes like no other place in the universe. They do not look for your praise or your worship. They hardly want you to kiss their feet. They are just everyday God fearing talented and generous people who happen to run one of the most successful developments of all time . If you don't like what they do, don't buy their product. Their business model reeks success, something those who criticize it have yet to demonstrate.
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I would bet she would be a better communicator if you attended one of her Wednesday meetings she has every week. Arrive early because sometimes 20 people out of 100,000+ villagers are packing the pace looking to communicate. It takes 2 to communicate.
Dear Mayor; You assume

Been there done that and have had more than one on one with Ms. Tutt and what I learned is she has limited authority. Again its not about Janet Tutt
I have also had all of the CDD orientations, etc

When it comes to talk of The Villages there is always a knee jerk reaction and the same posters jump in feeling a need to surround and protect the Developer , district. Its like dealing with people who default to political correctness its all meant to shut you down because there is no need from their point of view to have a rational discussion. Your wrong and the Developer sits at the right hand of God
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Dear Mayor; You assume

Been there done that and have had more than one on one with Ms. Tutt and what I learned is she has limited authority. Again its not about Janet Tutt
I have also had all of the CDD orientations, etc

When it comes to talk of The Villages there is always a knee jerk reaction and the same posters jump in feeling a need to surround and protect the Developer , district. Its like dealing with people who default to political correctness its all meant to shut you down because there is no need from their point of view to have a rational discussion. Your wrong and the Developer sits at the right hand of God

I am surprised at your saying this Rubicon.
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I think if more people took the time to attend The Villages Resident Academy we would not be having this discussion. I did attend and Janet Tutt gave a wonderful two hour talk to kick it off explaining exactly how The Villages operates. One of the very first things she said was she and VCDD have absolutely nothing to do with the developer, they work for us. She's head of the department that maintains the infrastructure of The Villages and looking around I'd say they do a dam good job.
She thanked us all for attending the academy because once we understood exactly how everything worked we'd be less likely to spread rumors and innuendo. Yes that is a sore spot with her because her staff has to spend valuable time responding to them.
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So because you don't like our form of government or you don't like the fact that people are happy here, Janet Tutt is a poor communicator? Give me a break
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I didn't say I didn't like it. I said it prevents us from participating to those issues that have substantive solutions to policy and hence to meet an agenda that perpetuates and protects the financial investment we made here.

I would offer examples but there are posters here who can only abide "happy talk" and that happy talk"has been to our detriment because it is a form of political correctness meant to shut down any rational discussion.
And infer that if you have a concern well your just a Developer hater

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I don't believe The Villages make people happy. I believe people make themselves happy
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I didn't say I didn't like it. I said it prevents us from participating to those issues that have substantive solutions to policy and hence to meet an agenda that perpetuates and protects the financial investment we made here.

I would offer examples but there are posters here who can only abide "happy talk" and that happy talk"has been to our detriment because it is a form of political correctness meant to shut down any rational discussion.
And infer that if you have a concern well your just a Developer hater

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I don't believe The Villages make people happy. I believe people make themselves happy
And you didn't know that when you moved here?
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"Kissing feet" and "worship fest" are not accurate descriptions but innacurrate embellishments designed to to do what? The Morse Family and Janet Tutt want nothing but the best and they have proven it time after time rewarded by a sales of homes like no other place in the universe. They do not look for your praise or your worship. They hardly want you to kiss their feet. They are just everyday God fearing talented and generous people who happen to run one of the most successful developments of all time . If you don't like what they do, don't buy their product. Their business model reeks success, something those who criticize it have yet to demonstrate.
"No other place in the UNIVERSE"; most successful development of ALL TIME" = worship fest. No one argues that they are successful or not. Of course they are, and for a reason: in general, The Villages is a pretty nice place to live, and that is why we all remain residents. But as others have said, its not perfect, and as this thread discusses, communications could be better. With all the advances in technology, there is zero reason they can't start listening to the residents and communicate better.
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Please show me where I have thrown a single stone at Ms. Tutt. The most negative thing I said was that I'm sure she would like everyone to agree with everything the Morses say and do (I phrased it badly and apologized for my phrasing). She'd be pretty dumb if she didn't since it would make her job that much easier.

As to the Morses, I'm basically in the middle. I truly admire what they have accomplished here. I don't begrudge them their money -- they took the risk, they had the foresight, they earned it. Do I like everything they do? No. Am I vocal about what I don't like? More or less. But I'm quicker to tell folks about how amazing TV is. My biggest vocal complaint is that I'm not conservative enough.

I do agree with those who said that the best way to squelch the rumors is to be forthcoming. Don't put up a wall in the middle of the night. Do listen when people complain (which they do most of the time, such as the traffic light at Colony).

Now, what does anything I have said have to do about my profession -- past or present?
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Janet Tutt does not work for the Developer, nor is she an elected official. I find it interesting that there is nobody on here that has had the responsibility to oversee a 100,000+ residential community yet still knows how the job should be done. I also find it interesting that those that post complaints don't understand the organizational structure of this place yet have all the solutions. I also wonder, since we have all the posters on here that have all the solutions, how many have, or will run to sit on a CDD so they can have a real impact. How many even go to the board meetings.

I needed to read this again.
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"Misinformation, speculation, rumors are born out of secrecy.."
.but mostly out of ignorance and intolerance for those having a differing opinion.
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Actually, I do believe Ms. Tuttlwould like it if there was never a negative word about the Morses. It would make her job that much easier.

Yes, we do have a lot of misstatements and rumors here, but most are quickly dispelled, corrected or substantiated quite quickly. I think TOTV and ts users do a great job of getting the facts out.

Also, I apologize for the poor wording about kissing the feet. It was not quite the sentiment I was trying to convey and I'm sorry it came out so badly and harshly.
Why not use the edit function and fix it.......it was bad.
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