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jimjamuser 01-31-2023 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2181421)
Real wages HAVE NOT increased in the last 2 years. The average American family has $4200 LESS in spending power...

They have SHRUNK 3% with the current administration.

Per the U.S. Gubmint:

Real Wages Have Shrunk 3 Percent Since President Biden Took Office - House Committee on Ways and Means

Even CNN says they have SHRUNK...

Fact check: Biden makes false and misleading claims in economic speech | CNN Politics

I read the 1st link and i could tell EASILY that it was TOTALLY biased.
.......I read the 2nd link and it said that SOME of the statements were incorrect. Some NOT so earthshaking errors. May the 1st among US who has never misspoken please throw the 1st STONE.

jimjamuser 01-31-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2181529)
Hey, thanks- :) The post you are referencing was #44 in this bizarro thread. That post was mine,

The “news” is causing so much anger— along with all those other negative emotions — to run rampant.

Add FB and its spawn to what those television channels grind on and on about and we sure are in a mess.

The so-called “news” is calculated by the power brokers to keep the viewers in a heightened state of negativity.

It is interesting — though actually terrifying — to read about something known as the amygdala hijack. That’s when the emotional part of the brain takes over the thinking part of the brain.

The amygdala is the emotional response territory of the brain and when it is constantly under siege it can take over normal thinking and cause behaviors that can wreck all kinds of important, in-person relationships.

Pogo was right. (sigh)

Boomer

"Amygdala highjack"......I believe that is the MAIN TOOL of fascists. Just watch old clips of Hitler's speeches to know that it CAN work and practically create mindless, non-thinking ZOMBIE followers. Beware America !!!!!!

jimjamuser 01-31-2023 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2181542)
Totally coincidentally, I was having a conversation yesterday with a friend of mine, who approaches politics from the opposite end of the conservative-liberal spectrum, than I do..He was telling me about a friend who has a family member glued to TV news. All day, every day, always tuned into the same network, never hearing any other message. It has so affected her personality that nobody wants to have anything to do with her, regardless of their political leanings. She has become so unpleasant to be around that nobody will do it.

Great post! That is becoming more and more of a problem in the US and here locally. I hear more distasteful conversations at the swimming pool now that many are polarized. Let's just HOPE that the middle holds.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 01-31-2023 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2180795)
I NEVER liked the concept of tips when I figured they were STUPID at about 7th grade. But, I am an outlier.
Sorry....duplicate

The alternative would be to add 24-30% to the price of restaurant food or other products and services where tipping is the norm.
Would you like that better?
At least with tipping, you can determine how much you felt the service was worth.

Aces4 01-31-2023 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2181542)
Totally coincidentally, I was having a conversation yesterday with a friend of mine, who approaches politics from the opposite end of the conservative-liberal spectrum, than I do..He was telling me about a friend who has a family member glued to TV news. All day, every day, always tuned into the same network, never hearing any other message. It has so affected her personality that nobody wants to have anything to do with her, regardless of their political leanings. She has become so unpleasant to be around that nobody will do it.

Gosh, that is like a biography of a poster here who will not be named.:1rotfl:

JMintzer 01-31-2023 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2181543)
I read the 1st link and i could tell EASILY that it was TOTALLY biased.
.......I read the 2nd link and it said that SOME of the statements were incorrect. Some NOT so earthshaking errors. May the 1st among US who has never misspoken please throw the 1st STONE.

You're actually saying that a "us.gov" website is "TOTALLY biased?

And that CNN is wrong????

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer 01-31-2023 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2181543)
I read the 1st link and i could tell EASILY that it was TOTALLY biased.
.......I read the 2nd link and it said that SOME of the statements were incorrect. Some NOT so earthshaking errors. May the 1st among US who has never misspoken please throw the 1st STONE.

But what the 2 links actually show is that YOU were wrong when you said that "REAL WAGES have INCREASED over the last two years"...

JMintzer 01-31-2023 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2181586)
The alternative would be to add 24-30% to the price of restaurant food or other products and services where tipping is the norm.
Would you like that better?
At least with tipping, you can determine how much you felt the service was worth.

He wouldn't care, as he's stated (multiple times) that he rarely (if ever) eats out. He prefers to eat of well used paper plates, at home...

Bilyclub 02-01-2023 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2181631)
He wouldn't care, as he's stated (multiple times) that he rarely (if ever) eats out. He prefers to eat of well used paper plates, at home...

Well, the price of new paper plates has skyrocketed.

RICH1 02-01-2023 06:58 AM

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jimjamuser 02-01-2023 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2181586)
The alternative would be to add 24-30% to the price of restaurant food or other products and services where tipping is the norm.
Would you like that better?
At least with tipping, you can determine how much you felt the service was worth.

Tipping is very elitist. I would rather engage in cow-tipping.

jimjamuser 02-01-2023 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2181631)
He wouldn't care, as he's stated (multiple times) that he rarely (if ever) eats out. He prefers to eat of well used paper plates, at home...

Roger that.........It takes a simple man to sing a simple song. May the simple poor among us enter the grace of heaven.

Jerseygirl08 02-01-2023 11:12 AM

RN pay
 
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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2180600)
Starting for for new graduate RN can start at $22-24 hourly rate, state by state, unless you want to work in high crime area, then you get hazard pay.

So why go into health care, when you can work for Disney, get ticket perks, and have a stress free magical day.

I totally agree. I'm a recently retired RN. A Handyman pay in TV is better per hour than a registered nurse pay. Don't get it. And way higher than a teacher's pay. Don't get that either.

When I was on the floor working my arse off - with no 15 minute breaks, no 30 minute lunch, and never getting out on time ..... and wait ..... called names, spit on, urine thrown on me, elbow broken, no holidays spent with my family, and on and on it goes . . . I often wondered, "What the hell am I doing this for?" Society needs nurses, doctors, teachers, firemen and firewomen, and police officers - for sure. We should pay them accordingly. And if they are not doing their jobs accordingly, they should be fired - not protected. My rant is over.

JMintzer 02-01-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl08 (Post 2181901)
I totally agree. I'm a recently retired RN. A Handyman pay in TV is better per hour than a registered nurse pay. Don't get it. And way higher than a teacher's pay. Don't get that either.

When I was on the floor working my arse off - with no 15 minute breaks, no 30 minute lunch, and never getting out on time ..... and wait ..... called names, spit on, urine thrown on me, elbow broken, no holidays spent with my family, and on and on it goes . . . I often wondered, "What the hell am I doing this for?" Society needs nurses, doctors, teachers, firemen and firewomen, and police officers - for sure. We should pay them accordingly. And if they are not doing their jobs accordingly, they should be fired - not protected. My rant is over.

You're assuming a handyman works a full 8 hr day, with no travel time between jobs, no down time between jobs, no "ooops, the person forgot he was coming and went out to lunch"...

And they do get injuries, which can put them out of commission for weeks...

That said, they get paid exactly what people are willing to pay...

jimjamuser 02-02-2023 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl08 (Post 2181901)
I totally agree. I'm a recently retired RN. A Handyman pay in TV is better per hour than a registered nurse pay. Don't get it. And way higher than a teacher's pay. Don't get that either.

When I was on the floor working my arse off - with no 15 minute breaks, no 30 minute lunch, and never getting out on time ..... and wait ..... called names, spit on, urine thrown on me, elbow broken, no holidays spent with my family, and on and on it goes . . . I often wondered, "What the hell am I doing this for?" Society needs nurses, doctors, teachers, firemen and firewomen, and police officers - for sure. We should pay them accordingly. And if they are not doing their jobs accordingly, they should be fired - not protected. My rant is over.

Good post. It is very SAD that (say) a plumber would make more money than a nurse or TEACHER. The US has been VERY backward about its priorities for years. One reason for that is that "the powers that be" have DECRIED that UNIONS "shall be NO MORE"! They fear UNIONS because UNIONS are about helping ordinary people get ahead. If these upper, uber elitists COULD do it, they would have already OUTSOURCED TEACHERS and NURSES to China.

Kenswing 02-02-2023 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl08 (Post 2181901)
I totally agree. I'm a recently retired RN. A Handyman pay in TV is better per hour than a registered nurse pay. Don't get it. And way higher than a teacher's pay. Don't get that either.

When I was on the floor working my arse off - with no 15 minute breaks, no 30 minute lunch, and never getting out on time ..... and wait ..... called names, spit on, urine thrown on me, elbow broken, no holidays spent with my family, and on and on it goes . . . I often wondered, "What the hell am I doing this for?" Society needs nurses, doctors, teachers, firemen and firewomen, and police officers - for sure. We should pay them accordingly. And if they are not doing their jobs accordingly, they should be fired - not protected. My rant is over.

It must be a regional thing. My wife is also a retired RN of 40 years. For at least the last 15 years of her career she was in the six figures and she only worked 35 hours per week. She got extra pay for her degree. Extra pay for any specific certification she held. Weekend differential, etc. That was in Washington state. I know she probably wouldn’t be making that kind of money here.

JMintzer 02-02-2023 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2182256)
Good post. It is very SAD that (say) a plumber would make more money than a nurse or TEACHER. The US has been VERY backward about its priorities for years. One reason for that is that "the powers that be" have DECRIED that UNIONS "shall be NO MORE"! They fear UNIONS because UNIONS are about helping ordinary people get ahead. If these upper, uber elitists COULD do it, they would have already OUTSOURCED TEACHERS and NURSES to China.

Why is it sad that a plumber would make more than a teacher or nurse?

They may charge more per hours, but that includes their business expenses, insurance, etc... They don't TAKE HOME that hourly fee...

Do you have a clue how much it costs to outfit a truck/van for a plumber?

Have you ever called plumbers for an emergency visit when your house floods? When your toilets backs up into your house? How about when your gas furnace dies and you're freezing in your home?

A good plumber is worth what they charge...

jimjamuser 02-02-2023 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2182298)
It must be a regional thing. My wife is also a retired RN of 40 years. For at least the last 15 years of her career she was in the six figures and she only worked 35 hours per week. She got extra pay for her degree. Extra pay for any specific certification she held. Weekend differential, etc. That was in Washington state. I know she probably wouldn’t be making that kind of money here.

That shows that Wa. the state is more progressive than Fl. Their schools probably rank higher than Fl. schools. And because of that more sophisticated employers and employees live there rather than in Florida. Their High School graduation rate is probably much higher than Florida's.

jimjamuser 02-02-2023 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2182431)
Why is it sad that a plumber would make more than a teacher or nurse?

They may charge more per hours, but that includes their business expenses, insurance, etc... They don't TAKE HOME that hourly fee...

Do you have a clue how much it costs to outfit a truck/van for a plumber?

Have you ever called plumbers for an emergency visit when your house floods? When your toilets backs up into your house? How about when your gas furnace dies and you're freezing in your home?

A good plumber is worth what they charge...

Not compared to a teacher. Societies can turn on the quality of their school system. No one cares to rank countries on how good their plumbers are. One thing for sure Is that Florida is going in the wrong direction. Soon Fl will be so desperate to hire teachers that plumbers will be accepted into the classroom.
.........This is an interesting side note about Education in Fl and plumbers in Fl. Both plumbers and Teachers apparently need financial support in Fl. FACT......Florida is # 1 in the US for application to The Affordable Care Act. (check it out, many want to hide that fact)

JMintzer 02-02-2023 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2182491)
That shows that Wa. the state is more progressive than Fl. Their schools probably rank higher than Fl. schools. And because of that more sophisticated employers and employees live there rather than in Florida. Their High School graduation rate is probably much higher than Florida's.

KenSwing was comparing the pay in WA state to that of "JerseyGirl"... I wonder where "JerseyGirl" was working as a nurse... Oh, I don't know... Maybe NEW JERSEY? She certainly never mentioned FL in her post...

No one mentioned FL, except you.

You just had to get in your dig @ FL...

A "sophisticated" person would have been able to figure that out...

Maybe it's where you grew up that lacks sophistication... I hear NC is quite sophisticated...

JMintzer 02-02-2023 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2182495)
Not compared to a teacher. Societies can turn on the quality of their school system. No one cares to rank countries on how good their plumbers are. One thing for sure Is that Florida is going in the wrong direction. Soon Fl will be so desperate to hire teachers that plumbers will be accepted into the classroom.

Yet you stay in FL... How Ponderous...


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