[KRM0614]

Originally Posted by stanley

Yes a new village,...for "them"... I really like that idea.

Wrong ! Herd mentality

[KRM0614]

Originally Posted by Advogado

Sumter County is home to the world's largest retirement community. Because of its elderly population, Sumter County is undoubtedly the Florida county that is most vulnerable with respect to the new wave of the COVID-19 virus. Fortunately, most residents are following the advice of the experts and wearing a mask in public places. Unfortunately, however, there are still a number of residents who are not-- either because of ignorance or selfishness or both. These people are endangering not only themselves (which, frankly, doesn't particularly bother me), but they are endangering everybody else as well (which does bother me).

In Sumter County, we recently elected a new slate of County Commissioners-- the EMS team of Estep, Miller, and Search. They have pledged to represent the residents, and not special interests. I personally know all three of the team members, and I did what I could to help them get elected. They are good guys-- smart, honest, intelligent, and experienced.

Here is hoping that the EMS team, who now constitute a majority of the Commissioners, will have both the foresight and the political courage to confront the COVID-19 crisis by following the lead of a number of other Florida counties and enacting an ordinance mandating a mask for anyone in a public building or at a public gathering. Who knows, maybe the other two Commissioners, who are generally described as “the Developer's puppets”, would support such an ordinance. After all, if The Villages becomes a COVID hotspot, it will put a crimp in the Developer's sale of new houses.

Many Florida counties and municipalities have enacted mask mandates. However, any ordinance adopted in Sumter County will have to be carefully drafted in light of Governor DeSantis's inane order suspending “collection of fines and penalties associated with COVID-19 enforced upon individuals.” Note that enforcement against businesses is not suspended; so businesses that don't require masks could be fined. Likewise, the enactment of mandatory-mask ordinances is not banned; so Sumter County could enact a mandate, with the fines and penalties “suspended”. That is, there are ways to attack the problem despite the DeSantis order.

In summary: COVID19 is the most serious problem facing Sumter County today. Let us hope that our Commissioners save lives by enacting an appropriate face-mask ordinance-- before it is too late!

Hopefully if this happens attorneys will get involved and overturn it
The state of Florida over rules a retirement community.

The solution is not too down government it’s personal responsibility

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by IUFAN

KEEP IN MIND 2009 H1N1 pandemic. There were 60.8 million cases. I don't remember having a mask mandate. But that was not an election year. I have a friend that works in Atlanta in the hospital. They were told early on that no matter what a person dies from it would be recorded as Covid. The hospital would get 17k for a covid death and 5k for all other. One more example ....Friends of our went to get the covid test and signed the papers to get it done. After waiting for a long time decided to come back the next day. They left and was going to return the next day, but before they left the next day they got a call and was informed the test they took the previous day was positive. (no test was taken the previous day) I believe that we should respect the current flu, but I also believe we are being lead down a path of wrong info.

Lot of second and third hand information.......tell it often enough and others will start to believe.

[dplars]

Common sense goes a long way, One size fits all Mandates don't make sense. Unless you are a herd dweller who can't think for themselves.

[dadoiron]

Originally Posted by Advogado

Sumter County is home to the world's largest retirement community. Because of its elderly population, Sumter County is undoubtedly the Florida county that is most vulnerable with respect to the new wave of the COVID-19 virus. Fortunately, most residents are following the advice of the experts and wearing a mask in public places. Unfortunately, however, there are still a number of residents who are not-- either because of ignorance or selfishness or both. These people are endangering not only themselves (which, frankly, doesn't particularly bother me), but they are endangering everybody else as well (which does bother me).

In Sumter County, we recently elected a new slate of County Commissioners-- the EMS team of Estep, Miller, and Search. They have pledged to represent the residents, and not special interests. I personally know all three of the team members, and I did what I could to help them get elected. They are good guys-- smart, honest, intelligent, and experienced.

Here is hoping that the EMS team, who now constitute a majority of the Commissioners, will have both the foresight and the political courage to confront the COVID-19 crisis by following the lead of a number of other Florida counties and enacting an ordinance mandating a mask for anyone in a public building or at a public gathering. Who knows, maybe the other two Commissioners, who are generally described as “the Developer's puppets”, would support such an ordinance. After all, if The Villages becomes a COVID hotspot, it will put a crimp in the Developer's sale of new houses.

Many Florida counties and municipalities have enacted mask mandates. However, any ordinance adopted in Sumter County will have to be carefully drafted in light of Governor DeSantis's inane order suspending “collection of fines and penalties associated with COVID-19 enforced upon individuals.” Note that enforcement against businesses is not suspended; so businesses that don't require masks could be fined. Likewise, the enactment of mandatory-mask ordinances is not banned; so Sumter County could enact a mandate, with the fines and penalties “suspended”. That is, there are ways to attack the problem despite the DeSantis order.

In summary: COVID19 is the most serious problem facing Sumter County today. Let us hope that our Commissioners save lives by enacting an appropriate face-mask ordinance-- before it is too late!

Yea

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by ScottS

Probably the most uneducated, Ill researched response I’ve read so far. Keep up the fear mongering! Great job so far. These over inflated numbers for covid remind me of the latest attempt at an election.

Which response??

[Brownmoose13]

Originally Posted by Dahabs

So if I'm understanding you right, until the effects of this virus have been determined 100% you will not take any precautions? Good luck to you.

You are correct....you do not understand what I am saying

[jbrown132]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

They did that. And a store employee was shot and killed by someone who refused to wear a mask, and refused to NOT go into the store.

The days of no shirt no service were the days when people were civilized. The current world is much different.

I guess he will be quarantining for the rest of his life.

[neilbcox]

Do mask really work to protect you? If they work then the mask you are wearing should protect you! If you mask does not protect you then why make others to wear one! I do wear one when a business requires it.

Here is the BIGGEST problem with the Cov19 virus!

Why are we allowing 25,000 to 30,000 snowbirds from all over the US and around the world to desend on The Villages this year with NO quarantine or cov19 testing! These people are coming from areas that have major cov19 outbreaks. This is a HUGE risk to full time residents!

Where are Sumter County Commissioner’s? They need to mandate a 14 day quarantine on all snowbirds and require them to have 2 cov19 negative test results before they can socialize!

With consideration of this post do you really think that requiring everyone to wear a mast is the biggest health issue for The Villages the next 6 months?

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Advogado

Sumter County is home to the world's largest retirement community. Because of its elderly population, Sumter County is undoubtedly the Florida county that is most vulnerable with respect to the new wave of the COVID-19 virus. Fortunately, most residents are following the advice of the experts and wearing a mask in public places. Unfortunately, however, there are still a number of residents who are not-- either because of ignorance or selfishness or both. These people are endangering not only themselves (which, frankly, doesn't particularly bother me), but they are endangering everybody else as well (which does bother me).

In Sumter County, we recently elected a new slate of County Commissioners-- the EMS team of Estep, Miller, and Search. They have pledged to represent the residents, and not special interests. I personally know all three of the team members, and I did what I could to help them get elected. They are good guys-- smart, honest, intelligent, and experienced.

Here is hoping that the EMS team, who now constitute a majority of the Commissioners, will have both the foresight and the political courage to confront the COVID-19 crisis by following the lead of a number of other Florida counties and enacting an ordinance mandating a mask for anyone in a public building or at a public gathering. Who knows, maybe the other two Commissioners, who are generally described as “the Developer's puppets”, would support such an ordinance. After all, if The Villages becomes a COVID hotspot, it will put a crimp in the Developer's sale of new houses.

Many Florida counties and municipalities have enacted mask mandates. However, any ordinance adopted in Sumter County will have to be carefully drafted in light of Governor DeSantis's inane order suspending “collection of fines and penalties associated with COVID-19 enforced upon individuals.” Note that enforcement against businesses is not suspended; so businesses that don't require masks could be fined. Likewise, the enactment of mandatory-mask ordinances is not banned; so Sumter County could enact a mandate, with the fines and penalties “suspended”. That is, there are ways to attack the problem despite the DeSantis order.

In summary: COVID19 is the most serious problem facing Sumter County today. Let us hope that our Commissioners save lives by enacting an appropriate face-mask ordinance-- before it is too late!

Most complex issues can be truly simple. I have a regular e-mail debate with a friend who thinks government has not right to force him to wear a mask. Personal freedom and all that stuff.
He shut up when since his wife was hit by a drunken driver if he thinks people should be allowed to drive drunk. I think you have the right to drive your car into a wall. You do not have the right to risk others.
As to a mask mandate. Passing a law is and should be difficult. Perhaps, more important is the willingness to enforce it and how to enforce it.
Masks. Look around you. How many people are using them properly?
No answer will be or can be perfect. You owe it to all-DO THE BEST YOU CAN

[Byte1]

The Villages has a VERY low death rate by the virus. The infection rate that everyone is so excited about is due to multiple tests for those that have tested positive. One infected person will end up getting several tests (positive) before a negative test, therefore making it appear on paper that there was four, five or even six positives for the virus. They do not break it down to how many people test positive, just how many positive test results.
All this hype and demands for a mandated mask requirement is crazy. It is no one's responsibility to protect you. Do not give me that cr@p about being selfish or non-patriotic or whatever attempt to shame folks into wearing masks. It's all about you and how you believe that the gov nanny MUST protect you. NO! It is your right to stay home and if you go out then protect yourself.
There will be NO mask mandate. If someone attempts to mandate a mask rule, it will be thrown out of court. The president would have to declare Martial Law in order to have an excuse to make such an assault on citizen liberties.
I will wear a mask where I deem it is prudent. If ordered to wear a mask, I will start wearing it on my chin. I am astounded that there are this many American seniors that have forgotten their world history to the extent that they would welcome gov. control of their lives. If you wish to wear a mask, then go for it. If not, just stay away from people. If you do not approve of others not wearing a mask, then mind your own business. They are not a threat to you when you can easily avoid them. Do not presume to limit other citizens' freedom, regardless of your selfish reasoning.
I will continue to wear a mask (voluntarily) until someone demands it. But, I draw the line at gov control regardless of politics.

[lennythenet]

Amen!

[graciegirl]

Six new cases in Sumter County and no new deaths in Sumter County today. Everyone please continue to wear masks and to social distance. Y'all know that. I don't have to say it. You all matter to me.

coronavirus deaths sumter county florida - Bing

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So wait - if it's about forcing you to wear a mask to protect the public, it's your right, your body, your choice?

And if it's about a woman's right to deal with her own body to protect her physical, mental, and emotional health and NOT the public, it's godless?

Which is it? Is it godless, or is it my body my choice? If you're going to pin your "right" on the same right a woman has to handle her own body her own way, then it has to be one or the other. Either women are not really godless afterall, or you are.

That's not even a valid argument.
Abortion is about killing a living being for the convenience of the host, almost 98% of the time. That has nothing to do with the mask and the virus though.
How is being forced to wear a mask in public, protecting the public? If you are not infected, then the mask is doing nothing. If you are able to avoid infection, then it is up to you to avoid it, not someone else that YOU deem a possible carrier. You have no scientific evidence to prove that anyone is threatening your health by not wearing a mask. If you do not wish contamination, infection then it is up to you to protect yourself. If a person has a bleeding ailment (Hemophilia) do you have the right to demand that knives and forks not be used in restaurants? Is it up to others to carry bandages for you, just in case they happen to be around someone with that ailment?
Sounds hokey? Same as your comparison that has nothing to do with the subject.

[graciegirl]

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