[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Advogado

Yes, progress in vaccine is good news, but apparently it will not be available for everyone until the end of next year. In addition, it reportedly is 90% effective, which means that one in ten people (33 million Americans) who get it will not be protected. In other words, we will be dealing with the virus for a long time, and thousands of Americans will be needlessly dying because of the obstinate and irrational refusal of some people to wear a mask in public and the failure of some of our politicians to require masks in public.

Yes, exactly correct. Kudos!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

You most certainly can try. I would not if I were you. You would most certainly not fair well. Esp. since walking near people is not a crime that requires a deadly force response. Get a grip and read up on Constitutional law and FL Statutes.

If I feel that my life is being threatened by you walking too close to me, then I have a responsibility to protect my own life. That is EXACTLY what you said.

If you have a problem with me exercising my responsibility to protect my own life, then I recommend you not come too close to my person if you ever see me. Keep your distance, and I'll keep mine.

[Terriy]

Originally Posted by Advogado

Please go to the World Health Organization website. They have an extensive explanation of the importance of masks in containing the spread of the virus.

Right...is that the same WHO who is in bed with China???

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

If I feel that my life is being threatened by you walking too close to me, then I have a responsibility to protect my own life. That is EXACTLY what you said.

If you have a problem with me exercising my responsibility to protect my own life, then I recommend you not come too close to my person if you ever see me. Keep your distance, and I'll keep mine.

You going to gun down every person who walks by you now? I can't wait to read what happens to you if you do this for real. FL executes murderers. Do you need help for your anger management issues? Threatening random strangers is a cry for help. Just some friendly advice.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Chitown

“These people are endangering not only themselves (which, frankly, doesn't particularly bother me), but they are endangering everybody else as well (which does bother me)”. ————————————————� �———


WOW! Just as you feel so strongly about wearing your mask in public, I and all the neighbors and friends I associate with feel no need or fear to wearing a mask when visiting each other or walking outside. I had COVID in April when it was at its peak. Minor symptoms and I fully recovered without complications. I know of several relatives and friends who have had it all fully recovered with most with minor symptoms. All feel fine today. If you feel that you are that immune or medically compromised then wear your mask when out or stay home. Let’s get something straight. There will never be a time that any official will order me to wear a mask in Public. When will you realize that vaccine or no vaccine this virus will be with us for some time. 98% of people who get it will recover. I and my friends are seniors and lived through it chances are you or your family will as well. Again if your that sickly wear your mask outside or stay home otherwise stop the criticism of people that don’t think like you.

So, you played Russian Roulette and won. More power to you. Some of us prefer to NEVER play at all.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Advogado

Sumter County is home to the world's largest retirement community. Because of its elderly population, Sumter County is undoubtedly the Florida county that is most vulnerable with respect to the new wave of the COVID-19 virus. Fortunately, most residents are following the advice of the experts and wearing a mask in public places. Unfortunately, however, there are still a number of residents who are not-- either because of ignorance or selfishness or both. These people are endangering not only themselves (which, frankly, doesn't particularly bother me), but they are endangering everybody else as well (which does bother me).

In Sumter County, we recently elected a new slate of County Commissioners-- the EMS team of Estep, Miller, and Search. They have pledged to represent the residents, and not special interests. I personally know all three of the team members, and I did what I could to help them get elected. They are good guys-- smart, honest, intelligent, and experienced.

Here is hoping that the EMS team, who now constitute a majority of the Commissioners, will have both the foresight and the political courage to confront the COVID-19 crisis by following the lead of a number of other Florida counties and enacting an ordinance mandating a mask for anyone in a public building or at a public gathering. Who knows, maybe the other two Commissioners, who are generally described as “the Developer's puppets”, would support such an ordinance. After all, if The Villages becomes a COVID hotspot, it will put a crimp in the Developer's sale of new houses.

Many Florida counties and municipalities have enacted mask mandates. However, any ordinance adopted in Sumter County will have to be carefully drafted in light of Governor DeSantis's inane order suspending “collection of fines and penalties associated with COVID-19 enforced upon individuals.” Note that enforcement against businesses is not suspended; so businesses that don't require masks could be fined. Likewise, the enactment of mandatory-mask ordinances is not banned; so Sumter County could enact a mandate, with the fines and penalties “suspended”. That is, there are ways to attack the problem despite the DeSantis order.

In summary: COVID19 is the most serious problem facing Sumter County today. Let us hope that our Commissioners save lives by enacting an appropriate face-mask ordinance-- before it is too late!

Is the POA backing this movement? I am not a fan of the POA.

Also counselor. How sharp are the teeth from a mandate? This is from someone who has barely been out of her house since the Pandemic began. I very much would comply, have complied with the directives of the CDC. You can lead a horse to water...........You can catch more flies with honey...Most of us know how serious the Pandemic is. Some people are born stubborn and all people are born with different levels of I.Q. I believe we are all born valuable. This issue has been debated ad nauseum. Can a country enforce a quarantine? Yes, if there are fines. U.K. shows us that. We will see how the upcoming administration will handle it on a National level.

Mandate legal definition of mandate

[Terriy]

Originally Posted by Mardarlowe

Yet another mask whiner. Get into the fetal position and return to your basement.

Great response!!

[Curtisbwp]

Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?
I lived for one year in a jungle and watched many of my friends get violently ill as they were stricken with malaria. People all around me werr dying from gunshot wounds and deadly explosives. I was 18 yrs old. I realized then that my life was in the hands of the LORD. If it was my time to die there was nothing i could about it. I did everything i could to stay alive, but it was all in GOD",S hands.
TODAY i can not depend on anyone to keep me safe. Only me and the lord. Take your well-being into yout own hands and trust in the LORD

[sail33or]

Originally Posted by sail33or

For those advocating for mandate to wear masks:

EXACTLY WHAT DEATH RATE or DAILY POSITIVES will be acceptable for YOU to stop wearing masks and give us your permission????

Note: any vaccine is only 90% effective and I promise there will be at least 20 - 40 % of folks that will NOT get vaccinated.

So there will ALWAYS be some deaths and infections forever just LIKE THE FLU. BUT WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER SO WE CAN END THIS.

Still Waiting and waiting for response. You can't respond can you because you are going to be wearing that mask the rest of your life.

[Heyitsrick]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

If, big IF, the vaccine works it will be lucky to be available to ordinary TV Bozos by DEC 2021. Then only 50% of the bozos will even get it - so we are right back to HERE - where we need to wear our masks and stay away from people, especially inside. The vaccine needs 2 doses and to be transported at negative 100 degrees F. It is people that want to propagandize you that are giving you FALSE HOPE - because it suits THEIR purposes. They are in no way concerned about you in the least. You don't exist to them! Just think for yourself.

I've seen you repeat this "December 2021" timeline a couple of times. Why are you saying that? Did you not see/hear Dr. Fauci's comments about when the vaccine would be available from a few days ago? He says that average Americans - not high-priority / at risk Americans - but average "bozos" as you would call them could expect to be able to be vaccinated by sometime in April of 2021. That's 8 months ahead of this arbitrary schedule you're touting.

Fauci sees the cooling requirements as a challenge, but certainly not a barrier.

He also believes that the efficacy of the vaccine - 90 to 95% effective - will easily convince people to get it in a timely manner.

Look, if you want to wear a mask forever and continue to engage in your pretentious commentary here, that's on you. You might want to get some facts along the way, though.

Watch: Dr. Fauci says vaccine could be widely available by April | Boston.com

[JimJohnson]

If you do not wear a mask, then you have no right to go out in the public. If you go in a store without a mask, that would be attempted voluntary manslaughter. If anyone gets in my face without a mask, I will react accordingly. Shame on anyone in public without a mask.

[Seve1]

Yeah the WHO, who are you kidding, they are a puppet for ChiComs , and have been wrong repeatedly. As well as Chairman Fauci. I would follow the suggestions of our governor. Calling the cops on people for their mask behavior is ludicrous. You people need to get a life. What you’re posting is insane. most people wear masks in the Villages. If you don’t feel completely comfortable with those that don’t, you should all stay home. Don’t try to dictate to the rest of us.

[JimJohnson]

Originally Posted by Seve1

Yeah the WHO, who are you kidding, they are a puppet for ChiComs , and have been wrong repeatedly. As well as Chairman Fauci. I would follow the suggestions of our governor. Calling the cops on people for their mask behavior is ludicrous. You people need to get a life. What you’re posting is insane. most people wear masks in the Villages. If you don’t feel completely comfortable with those that don’t, you should all stay home. Don’t try to dictate to the rest of us.

I see you point, but just to be clear, if you don’t wear a mask in public, you could very well be taking someone’s else’s life in your hands. If you don’t wear a mask in public and get near me, you are taking your own life in your hands while I am committing self defense. I love everyone, but I have responsibilities and will not allow you to endanger my life with the selfish act of not wearing a mask.

Love

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

If you do not wear a mask, then you have no right to go out in the public. If you go in a store without a mask, that would be attempted voluntary manslaughter. If anyone gets in my face without a mask, I will react accordingly. Shame on anyone in public without a mask.

You are going to stop people not wearing a mask to go out? There are no laws that prohibit a person from not wearing a mask in FL. Attempted voluntary manslaughter? The insanity of some people here is truly amazing. Well, maybe not.

[Seve1]

I think you need psychiatric care.