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Byte1 11-13-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lisafolker@gmail.com (Post 1860469)
You have the right to live your life but you don’t have the right to take mine. WEAR a MASK!

You have a right to your safety, so stay home. You do not have the right to demand anything from me. You can ask me to wear a mask and I might humor you.

Velvet 11-13-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1860464)
Having a right to do something is exactly what some on here are attempting to take away. :boom:
Being able to produce a child is a female thing, for a reason I'm sure. Maybe you think it is funny? Sorry, but I do not know of very many men that would choose to bear a child, even if possible.
And yes, I also realize that you are just being facetious. But, in reality one should face the truth and not attempt to live in a SyFy imagination.

Yes I am facetious, poor hubby is cringing that I wrote the post. In fact, I am a mother and love it! But as far as SiFi goes we progress through imagination.

Advogado 11-13-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1860471)
Your personal safety is not an element or function of the Gov. Maybe in a communist future America will get there. USSA?

I don't understand your point.

Preserving PUBLIC safety is, in fact, the primary function of government. Since the Florida state government has failed to do so with respect to COVID-19, it is incumbent upon our County Commissioners to act. It is just a matter of time before masks are mandatory throughout the U.S. It is only a question of how many more people need to needlessly die before our politicians act.

jimjamuser 11-13-2020 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JanetMM (Post 1860233)
When you don’t wear a mask it is like you are playing RUSSIAN ROULETTE. And if you want to play Russian roulette go right ahead. Does not bother me. But when you play LET’S SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES ME TO KILL MYSELF and you keep spinning that gun around the room at different people as you play that is where we need to draw the line. Anyone’s imaginary RIGHTS end when they interfere with the real RIGHTS of LIFE for anyone else. Don’t pull the rest of us into your game of RUSSIAN ROULETTE.

Beautiful analogy! Kudos!

Byte1 11-13-2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1860338)
Sure makes sense compared to the "mandatory mask law" person who wrote previously. Good by Sumter County Hello China is what they mean. How many since the revolution have fought and died for liberty, freedom only to loose it to a tyrannical and irrational set of "laws" handed down by who ? Oh, a group of commissions ? Yes, always go to the most experienced medical advice before passing "laws" on others. Personally I CHOOSE to wear a mask when out shopping and dining; some neighbors do not. That is their personal choice. I certainly do not feel they are selfish or any of the other vile names people here in the V's call anyone who chooses not to wear a mask. I for one am really tired of the trashing of people that goes on here daily, saw an incident in Publix just three days ago, it was an ugly moment for such a "friendly" hometown. No RESPECT for your neighbors because you wear a mask and they don't ? NO, there is no respect for others because "others" choose to make them villains and outcasts because of their own personal irrational fears.

Totally agree :thumbup:. I wear a mask because I choose to, not because someone demands me to wear one. I do not care if anyone wears a mask or not. That's their business and I do not make it mine. However, I reserve the same treatment. No one has the right to demand that I wear a mask. If they give me the excuse that it is for their protection, then I tell them that I do not know them and I do not care. I have spent over 50 years serving my country "protecting them." Time for them to take the training wheels off and learn to walk on their own without someone else's assistance.

Byte1 11-13-2020 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1860474)
I don't understand your point.

Preserving PUBLIC safety is, in fact, the primary function of government. Since the Florida state government has failed to do so with respect to COVID-19, it is incumbent upon our County Commissioners to act. It is just a matter of time before masks are mandatory throughout the U.S. It is only a question of how many more people need to needlessly die before our politicians act.

You seem to have a misunderstanding of the function of government. Just because you deem it necessary to mandate that EVERYONE wear a mask to your approval, does not make it the duty of the gov to enforce your wishes.
If the gov mandates masks, they will also mandate a certification for masks like they do for motorcycle helmets. The helmet must be certified by DOT in some states or you are charged with operating without a helmet, even though you have a nice helmet. Beware of what you want the gov to do for you because someone is surely going to make money off it. How else do politicians become millionaires after becoming elected?
If you wish to wear a military gas mask and a hazmat suit, I am sure the gov will mandate it for you AND charge you as much as they pay for toilet seats.

Byte1 11-13-2020 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1860473)
Yes I am facetious, poor hubby is cringing that I wrote the post. In fact, I am a mother and love it! But as far as SiFi goes we progress through imagination.

"Progress" maybe. Live in "imagination" not so much. Reality is much more REAL. :a040:

sail33or 11-13-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sail33or (Post 1860455)
for those advocating for mandate to wear masks:

Exactly what death rate or daily positives will be acceptable for you to stop wearing masks and give us your permission????

Note: Any vaccine is only 90% effective and i promise there will be at least 20 - 40 % of folks that will not get vaccinated.

So there will always be some deaths and infections forever just like the flu. But what is your number so we can end this.

i am still waiting for an answer

Capt_Chris_Pike 11-13-2020 01:16 PM

Exactly.
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1860093)
What is the use of rules that cannot be enforced. Most of us are following all of the suggestions to the letter from the health authorities both Nationally and our own physicians. Any death is a disaster but deaths in Sumter County have risen very very slowly in the last two months, and I believe that is due to most residents being very aware of the risks.


Most people are taking steps to minimize the risk. I don't see it as a problem that needs to be legislated.

graciegirl 11-13-2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jaj523 (Post 1860449)
Is that 89 deaths for Sumter County? Or 89 deaths for The Villages?

There is no valid way to figure out how many people in The Villages have died. We only have numbers on Counties.

jimjamuser 11-13-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Indiana Randy (Post 1860259)
If masks worked, why then need there be social distancing? If social distancing works, then why wear a mask?

I can not support a government regulation that takes away our freedom.

If those advocating that we all wear a mask were enlightened with the actual DEATH rate from Covid-19, perhaps the fear would be less and more rational informed decisions would be made.

They work TOGETHER! XERO medical experts ever said that society needed to practice only one of them. How could anyone think that? If you have a mask on and you are packed in shoulder-to-shoulder you messed up and you could get CV. Likewise, if you are 6 feet away and do not have a mask on you are taking a big risk and could get CV. Explaining this is like herding cats!

Joe V. 11-13-2020 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lisafolker@gmail.com (Post 1860469)
You have the right to live your life but you don’t have the right to take mine. WEAR a MASK!

You are wrong. You have the responsibility to protect your own life.

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-13-2020 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1860490)
You are wrong. You have the responsibility to protect your own life.

So if you come within 6 feet of me, not wearing a mask, I can shoot you? Awesome.

2A FTW

jimjamuser 11-13-2020 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottS (Post 1860264)
When you and people like you, ruin our economy because of over inflated numbers, my company will be buying homes in the Villages for .50 on the dollar..... here’s the problem with your false numbers directly from health care workers... people come in and test positive, then they return every day to test until they test negative all of those tests get reported as positive tests, even though it’s the same person with the same original positive test. The death rate in the Villages hasn’t changed percentage wise from last year or previous years! The Villages is growing like crazy! More people equal more deaths. Common sense people common sense. Stop being sheep.

Sorry, but cases, hospitalizations, and DEATHS are linked statistics, one begets the others. Cases are now a record 160,000 nationwide. You can see the overcrowded hospitals on ANY TV channel with your own lying eyes. You may be able to buy houses ANYWHERE in the US at a sale price because DEATHS will make less demand, and the same supply. That really has nothing to do with anyone advocating caution in a Plague and wanting mask mandates, which are just common sense, while trying to help their fellow Americans.

Joe V. 11-13-2020 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1860491)
So if you come within 6 feet of me, not wearing a mask, I can shoot you? Awesome.

2A FTW


You most certainly can try. I would not if I were you. You would most certainly not fair well. Esp. since walking near people is not a crime that requires a deadly force response. Get a grip and read up on Constitutional law and FL Statutes.


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