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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1860105)

How to "enforce" a mask mandate without fines or penalties:

Mandate it for any and all buildings that are open to the public, except AT tables in restaurants, mess halls, cafeterias, and in private stalls of public rest rooms (so you and the guy next to you at the urinal have to have your masks on. If he goes into the stall with the door he can take his mask off).

And if someone objects, they can call the police. If the police come they can order you to either put the mask on, or leave the premises. If you refuse - then you get arrested for trespassing. Remember all public places of business reserve the right to refuse service to anyone - as long as they don't violate civil rights. And you don't have the constitutional right to not wear a mask. It's just not in that document.

You are right. There are ways to effectively require masks despite the inane DeSantis order. Note that it doesn't ban mask mandates but does ban fines and penalties for noncompliant individuals (but not for noncompliant businesses). Any ordinance would have to be carefully drafted, but first of all the County Commissioners have to decide to address the crisis.

Last I heard Dr Fauci was part of that organization

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1860104)

my wish is for people to wear the mask correctly.
Why do people wear it not covering their nose?

ignorance

I hope for a mandate of no mandates.

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Originally Posted by worldseries27 (Post 1860129)

ignorance

sorry for deflected typing. Everything should be used to protect our citizenry. I propose signs near all the stores reminding all the patrons that if they mask up properly they are saving the villagers themselves as well as the visiting relatives of the same. Demonstrate that the mask wearer s are our first line of defense save someone's kids in addition to yours
do it for jesus.

Let’s hope not. Totally non enforceable.

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1860088)

Sumter County is home to the world's largest retirement community. Because of its elderly population, Sumter County is undoubtedly the Florida county that is most vulnerable with respect to the new wave of the COVID-19 virus. Fortunately, most residents are following the advice of the experts and wearing a mask in public places. Unfortunately, however, there are still a number of residents who are not-- either because of ignorance or selfishness or both. These people are endangering not only themselves (which, frankly, doesn't particularly bother me), but they are endangering everybody else as well (which does bother me).

In Sumter County, we recently elected a new slate of County Commissioners-- the EMS team of Estep, Miller, and Search. They have pledged to represent the residents, and not special interests. I personally know all three of the team members, and I did what I could to help them get elected. They are good guys-- smart, honest, intelligent, and experienced.

Here is hoping that the EMS team, who now constitute a majority of the Commissioners, will have both the foresight and the political courage to confront the COVID-19 crisis by following the lead of a number of other Florida counties and enacting an ordinance mandating a mask for anyone in a public building or at a public gathering. Who knows, maybe the other two Commissioners, who are generally described as “the Developer's puppets”, would support such an ordinance. After all, if The Villages becomes a COVID hotspot, it will put a crimp in the Developer's sale of new houses.

Many Florida counties and municipalities have enacted mask mandates. However, any ordinance adopted in Sumter County will have to be carefully drafted in light of Governor DeSantis's inane order suspending “collection of fines and penalties associated with COVID-19 enforced upon individuals.” Note that enforcement against businesses is not suspended; so businesses that don't require masks could be fined. Likewise, the enactment of mandatory-mask ordinances is not banned; so Sumter County could enact a mandate, with the fines and penalties “suspended”. That is, there are ways to attack the problem despite the DeSantis order.

In summary: COVID19 is the most serious problem facing Sumter County today. Let us hope that our Commissioners save lives by enacting an appropriate face-mask ordinance-- before it is too late!

Mask mandates may help but I propose everyone be forced to wear a Level 1 Haz-mat suit outside of their homes. If we were really serious about this we wouldn’t waste time just wearing masks when there is a far safer alternative available. If anyone disagrees with me they must be ignorant because “the science” proves that a Level 1 Haz-mat suit is the best protection available!

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1860105)

If your so called mask protects you and your social distancing, pray tell, where is all the paranoia coming from? No need to fixate on others. Just stay home and the rest of us will go on with our lives...many of us work and are out there every day and if we harbored the constant fear and paranoia like so many, everything would be shut down...and how would that be working out for you? No stores, no gas stations, no restaurants, no MD offices, no financial institutions, no pharmacy, no nothing...be thankful that we are not of the same mindset as so many here...

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Originally Posted by Brownmoose13 (Post 1860100)

So please tell me which expert you listen/refer to and please do not mention Fauci as he has been a pinball on the issue.
As far as 89 deaths (which are too many) that is about 1 death every 3 days, probably behind cancer, heart attacks, etc.
When one of your "experts" has a definitive answer I will then listen as it seems not one of the 217 countries affected has any answers either. Until then I am trying not to live my life in fear or by numbers since it is later than I think

That is an absurd statement about Fauci. He is the #1 expert I listen to because he admits that, as he and others have learned more about this novel (i.e, NEW) coronavirus, he has changed his advice. For.a very short period of time, he said masks weren't necessary but for the last seven months he (and every other public health expert) has been completely consistent on the need for mask wearing as the number one preventative measure.

I have researched and found that people with underlying condition are the ones most prone to problems. Masks are a help but mandated everyone to wear one and to fine businesses is a total mistake. The vaccine is being made available in the very near future so these mandatory mask laws and other unconstitutional plans are needless.

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Originally Posted by Brownmoose13 (Post 1860100)

So if I'm understanding you right, until the effects of this virus have been determined 100% you will not take any precautions? Good luck to you.

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1860105)

Neither is abortion but godless people say that is a right in the constitution ("it's just not in that document"). There is no way that anyone is going to force me to wear a mask when I'm outdoors (not in a building). You can demand rules for doing business in buildings. No government in the USA has the authority to demand that people wear a mask in public any more than it can force me to buy health insurance. "My body, my choice" as abortion advocates would say.

And, that position does not make me selfish or ignorant. That makes me an American.

Experts..... please......there are a thousand differing opinions on the so called “experts”. Tell me the difference of being 6 feet from a person, or 6 foot and one inch. If your afraid, stay in your house and watch TV. I’d rather go out and live. I’m careful and wear a mask when “required”. If you want to wear one a ll the time, do so. I dont want a police officer to have to arrest somebody over a mask. Let’s worry about crime instead.