[Taltarzac725]

The Villages Lifelong Learning College enrichment classes for adults.

A sad state of affairs.

[greatime]

I thought I was on topic when I expressed that I was interested in the LLC instead of someone's personal history. Please explain how that subject matter meshes with the LLC.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by greatime

I thought I was on topic when I expressed that I was interested in the LLC instead of someone's personal history. Please explain how that subject matter meshes with the LLC.

Perhaps since there is a legal case against the LLLC ongoing, the personal legal experiences of a retired lawyer with experience in victim's rights cases would have some degree of relevance. I report, you decide....

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Perhaps since there is a legal case against the LLLC ongoing, the personal legal experiences of a retired lawyer with experience in victim's rights cases would have some degree of relevance. I report, you decide....

Actually my experience is in the appearance of a disability while fighting for victims' rights since January 1991. That was the strategy used against me. Attack me personally rather than go at the issue I was addressing and am still working on.

The ADA has some very complicated cases associated with it. In the period before its passage I remember being quite confused myself by one of these cases dealing with the appearance of disability as well were some of the judges in Moot Court at the University of Minnesota Law School.

If you look at the lawsuit too involving the Lifelong Learning College it does seem quite complex unless the lawyers on here help you understand it. And I would like to know the background of the lawyers who are giving us the down-low on the case that resulted in the shutting down of the Lifelong Learning College. I am not a lawyer but a law librarian. Law librarians should be getting you information so that you can get at the facts which I have been trying to do. The backgrounds of lawyers on here are some of those facts. And I am not retired but do this work because I love it. It is pro bono in other words. SCHWARZ v. THE VILLAGES CHARTER SCHOOL, INC. | Case No. 5:12-cv-177-Oc-34PRL. | Leagle.com.

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by greatime

I thought I was on topic when I expressed that I was interested in the LLC instead of someone's personal history. Please explain how that subject matter meshes with the LLC.

Lots of people log on here, you will learn very quickly whose opinions interest you and whose to skim over.

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by greatime

I thought I was on topic when I expressed that I was interested in the LLC instead of someone's personal history. Please explain how that subject matter meshes with the LLC.

IMHO you WERE on topic. I think that's why the mod finally jumped in. This forum is more liberal than most WRT staying--or not staying-- on topic. Again, just my opinion. Namaste.

[Boomer]

Aw, c'mon.......

Can't happen!

No way!

Won't work!

I am in a bit of a snit this morning after reading posts saying classes could meet in private homes.

Yeah, right.

Logistics.

Impossible Ratios.

Space in General. -- Nobody's got a basement rec room.

Parking Spots.

Potential for liability. (Could be one of those opportunistic tripper-types signs up. Whoops!)

And, of course, somebody eventually hollers the ever-popular, "Hey! You really got that many friends or are all those people paying you for something. AHA! You can't run a business outa your TV house!"

.........Sooooo, I do not find that private home idea to be truly helpful. In fact, it feels a little dismissive to me. Thus, my snit.....But, yeah, I know. It's my ox getting gored.

Boomer

Note to Self: Stop looking at this thread. You do not like being in a snit.

[greatime]

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer

IMHO you WERE on topic. I think that's why the mod finally jumped in. This forum is more liberal than most WRT staying--or not staying-- on topic. Again, just my opinion. Namaste.

Thank you for your considerate words. I was feeling like I was being ripped apart by the legal profession as well as the moderator. Again, thank you.

[stan the man]

I see two options for a solution to this problem first-- would be to approach the largest church in the villages, St. Timothy, or Temple shalom asked them if they have any room or would help to continue with the learning college.
Secondly-- have the learning College look into the legality of becoming a church and therefore be exempt from the ADA. Then Mr. Swartz can sue the temple or the church to try and get what he feels he's entitled to.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by stan the man

I see two options for a solution to this problem first-- would be to approach the largest church in the villages, St. Timothy, or Temple shalom asked them if they have any room or would help to continue with the learning college.
Secondly-- have the learning College look into the legality of becoming a church and therefore be exempt from the ADA. Then Mr. Swartz can sue the temple or the church to try and get what he feels he's entitled to.

ADA Title III Technical Assistance Manual

This might be of interest. I see that churches do have to comply with the ADA as far as their employees are concerned if they have enough employees. Not church goers though.

[PennBF]

It can be noted in the Villages "The Mix" the December 10th issue on the south side of 466 that a group of Deaf Villager's did take classes in painting at Wine & Design in Oxford on Nov.1st.

[kas52]

Deaf battle The Villages in federal court
Deaf battle The Villages in federal court - Orlando Sentinel

[dirtbanker]

Wow, seems a little biased...Now it turns out Schwarz is an attorney? He states the deaf are paying the same amenity fees and getting less. How about the many that own a home in the villages, that do not live full time in the villages (more than the numbet of plantiffs) that pay the same amenities fees and get less? This clown wants more than anyone else that pays the fees (does the person that does not speak English deserve an Interpreter?). Schwarz is a jackass, he litigated to force the closing of the school and took that away from the majority of people that pay amenity fees.

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[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by kas52

Deaf battle The Villages in federal court
Deaf battle The Villages in federal court - Orlando Sentinel

Wow! What a hit piece on The Villages. The writer looks like she has some type of bias against The Villages.

[CFrance]

I'm confused about Swartz's statement concerning amenity fees. What do amenity fees have to do with LLC? I thought LLC was paid for through tuition.