Originally Posted by mark47 (Post 1330459)

I've been planning on moving to the Villages for almost a year now. Next month I'm scheduled for 6 days for another lifestyle visit. This third visit was to narrow down areas to live. With the LLC gone TV is just another very large retirement community. I'll probably spend 4 of the 7 days looking outside TV. Sad for me but probably sadder for all those already invested in TV

Originally Posted by Wavy Chips (Post 1330486)

Not trying to be funny or disrespectful, but if the plaintiffs are deaf/hearing impaired, how can they hear the presentations in the first place and then be able to sign for the the rest of the attendees?

Originally Posted by rexxfan (Post 1328946)

And requiring interpreters for each and every class be paid for by everyone is reasonable? No matter the cost? Sorry, that's where I part ways with you.
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Bob C

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1330235)

Rode by the lead plaintiffs house this morning two modest cars and two golf carts in the garage/driveway--IMHO-- the man is on a $$$ hunt

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1330581)

I have to side with Bogie and JW on this one.
First of all, health care did not change---health care INSURANCE did---quite a different thing
We may be in the process of losing the LLLC, but, on average it is a very small part of TV lifestyle. In fact, we may lose a resource that most other retirement communities never had in the first place.
You need to do what is right for you, but don't get bogged down in the emotional response to the closing

Originally Posted by fourandrew (Post 1330676)

the q-tip comment was mean

Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1330536)

A number of people have already made positive suggestions about what the community can do next … contact Orlando media, contact AARP etc. I support those ideas.

Other believe our best hope is convincing the Developer to reopen negotiations with the plaintiffs. It’s ok to hope, but hope is not a strategy. If I was the Developer, there’s no way I’d touch it at this point but maybe we’ll get lucky? But I’m certainly ok with asking again etc

In the meantime, and given the feckless letter from the VHA, the POA is now the only group we can look to who will actually fight, and fight hard, to protect the interests of all TV residents. The President of POA, with approval / inputs from his Board, should appoint a “Lifelong Learning College Task Force (LLCTF)” Leader whom in addition to being a Villager, is also ideally a retired attorney with a proven track record in litigation.

The Charter of the LLCTF should be something along these lines:

1. Investigate what legal recourse is available for TV residents, if any, to recoup damages from the responsible parties, and to include approaches for disincentivizing any similar future lawsuits. Determine what assistance, if any, is needed from independent outside counsel as well.

2. Determine what legal and other steps need to be taken now to better protect our interests from potential future attacks upon the RLGs, Clubs etc from unreasonable and/or financially impossible demands, while also fully complying with the law.

3. Craft a plan to recreate a LLC-like entity, using alternative means and volunteer efforts to included restoring classes, even if in a limited way at first. Consider using the Rec Centers and/or Savannah Center as facilities, club-like membership etc. This effort could logically branch off into a separate Task Force later on at some point. It should also address reasonable means to address the needs of deaf students, where applicable.

We also need legislative remedies longer term. After the LLCTF gets started and has a chance to better research the specifics, the President of the POA should then personally visit both Congressman Daniel Webster and State Senator Dennis Baxley, and other political leaders TBD. The POA President should ask them for their assistance to begin examining legislative remedies at the Federal and State levels. Invite them to attend and address a future POA meeting as well. I note that both of these gentlemen visited, and made personal presentations to, a meeting of The Villages Straight Shooters (i.e. Gun Club) a few weeks before the election. We have 120,000 voters here in TV … they will pay attention!

The ADA statutes need technical improvements and reform. The protections afforded the disabled MUST be preserved (i.e. after all, we will ALL be disabled at some point). However the imperfections which currently allow blatantly unfair and arbitrary actions such as this lawsuit need to be eliminated for good. The recent CBS 60 Minutes expose is further evidence this is already a national problem, and not just unique to TV.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1330687)

Whether most other retirement communities had an LLC is immaterial, in my opinion. We had it, that was a large reason for our moving here, and now it's gone. It does me no good to say, "Oh, well, nobody else had one either."

Originally Posted by pbkmaine (Post 1330719)

My concern is that we are becoming a less nice place to live. Facilities are already very crowded during the busy season. The LLC took some of the pressure off the crowding by offering alternatives to the free-with-amenities-fee activities.