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Old 12-19-2016, 11:30 AM
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There is also the option of opening something different from the LLC which takes into account the use of voluntary non-government involved Resident Lifestyle Groups to run these classes. Depends a lot on the final result of this case though and how they ruled finally on whether on not these voluntary associations of people need their meeting to meet the requirements of the ADA.

The Lifelong Learning College was part of the Villages developers vision and I am sure they had hands on it in some manner. And the Villages has a lot of governmental aspects in their rule. Something new might work but it would not be as well run as the LLC.
I agree with you.

But remember that the lifestyle groups are not out of the lawsuit yet. The plaintiffs appealed the dismissal of their claim with respect to the groups. I don't know the status of that appeal.
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It will hurt the Villages without these classes. It was a real draw
It was "icing on the cake", and a real pleasure to attend classes at LLC.
But I don't think it will hurt sales in The Villages.
There is so much in TV that is unique, including the three Town Squares and the many golf courses.
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But remember that the lifestyle groups are not out of the lawsuit yet. The plaintiffs appealed the dismissal of their claim with respect to the groups. I don't know the status of that appeal.
I have no idea when the court will publish their decision, but here is the link to where they publish the opinions:

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It was "icing on the cake", and a real pleasure to attend classes at LLC.
But I don't think it will hurt sales in The Villages...
Sums up my feelings also.

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It was smart to fold the college. You can't fight the federal government and win.

All of the people teaching can continue to teach without the framework of signing up at the high school. Some alternative idea will emerge.

If we want to learn and teachers want to teach us, there will be a way.

We have a lot of churches and a synagogue with meeting rooms that can be used. We could meet in people's homes.
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...We could meet in people's homes.
The last class I attended, the teacher was already making plans for that.
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It was "icing on the cake", and a real pleasure to attend classes at LLC.
But I don't think it will hurt sales in The Villages.
There is so much in TV that is unique, including the three Town Squares and the many golf courses.
That's true. And my 224 613 Project has been here with me since 2005. Moved it from Palm Harbor, FL around June of that year. And Gary Corsair of The Villages Daily Sun did a short article on how my work was going with the local libraries (Lake, Marion, and Sumter Counties). This was on the Memorial Day weekend of 2007. He wanted to see my files but I said no as I had just met him. Ran into his wife for years with their dog Boo Radley at Doggie Doo Run Run.

There are still a lot of good things in the Villages. And something like the LLC could be set up again in the future IF and WHEN the ADA's rules are applied with more common sense and less anal retentive attention to the letter of the law. Lawyers love the little details; but they often hurt people as well.
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So how much do the New York lawyers want to go away? Hearing impaired should be accommodated, obviously. But millions for lawyers in New York that could go for the Learning College seems absurd.
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So how much do the New York lawyers want to go away? Hearing impaired should be accommodated, obviously. But millions for lawyers in New York that could go for the Learning College seems absurd.
We do not know if the lawyers have won anything in the way of damages. The case is not at that stage yet.
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Yes, a hit piece. Written by Lauren Ritchie, no surprise there.


Actually, not always a personal choice. Many Canadians and Brits own houses in The Villages.
The USA Government allows us to stay in the USA for only 182 days in a calendar year.
There is no such thing as a "Retiree Visa" which would allow us to stay longer.
We are happy to have discovered The Villages and blessed to own a home here. No plans to sue for lower amenity fees!
I thought if a Canadian or Brit is out of their country for more than 6 months, they lose their government health care.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:49 PM
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I thought if a Canadian or Brit is out of their country for more than 6 months, they lose their government health care.
Rules for Canadian provinces differ. Six months for some provinces, Ontario is seven months.
I think British Columbia is also seven months. Newfoundland is eight months.
We currently buy Travel Insurance when we travel and would be happy to buy it for longer.

Back to the topic of this thread ..... the sad closing of the LL College.
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Anyone have any updates on the progress of this case?
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Anyone have any updates on the progress of this case?
Unpublished Opinions Log | Eleventh Circuit | United States Court of Appeals

The Court of Appeals website, as of a couple of minutes ago, does not yet contain a decision on the plaintiffs' appeal of the summary judgment dismissal of their complaint with respect to the clubs.
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Unpublished Opinions Log | Eleventh Circuit | United States Court of Appeals

The Court of Appeals website, as of a couple of minutes ago, does not yet contain a decision on the plaintiffs' appeal of the summary judgment dismissal of their complaint with respect to the clubs.
Thanks for looking Advogado.
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Unpublished Opinions Log | Eleventh Circuit | United States Court of Appeals

The Court of Appeals website, as of a couple of minutes ago, does not yet contain a decision on the plaintiffs' appeal of the summary judgment dismissal of their complaint with respect to the clubs.
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