[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by terryf484

Big issue about white crosses, but nothing said about political flags flying year around, some of them not so nice. If not crosses, then make home owners take down their political flags.

Agree! But, sometimes, those flags do let you know which of your neighbors is batspit crazy. 😒

[ken.yotz]

Not only do you ignore the facts, you sadly spread untrue statements.

Originally Posted by Blueblaze

The solution in our neighborhood is an 8" cross in every single flowerbed.

It's sort of like the way we finally defeated that idiotic 55mph speed limit that was almost universally ignored, and still managed to kill thousands of people every year, as evidenced from the drop in highway deaths the year it was finally repealed.

Sometimes the only solution to stupid government overreach is passive resistance.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

That was an issue when we lived in TV 5 yrs. ago. If my memory serves me right TV said you couldn’t put anything out in the yard, it had to be back where your bushes are. To make it short somehow the homeowners don’t own from the bushes to the street. If I’m wrong correct me, not trying to make trouble but this has been an earlier issue.

The homeowners do own their front yards from the bushes to at least close to the street (probably all the way but not sure).

Read your deed restrictions to find the wording about lawn ornaments. I don't see anything that allows me to put ornaments in the shrub beds. In fact, I have seen arguments that even though you may drape flowers over it, an old bicycle is still not flower pot.

Perhaps there was the thought that anything under the eaves is within the footprint of the house and therefore considered to be within the house and not part of the lawn. If a homeowner is allowed to get away with that then good for them. It seems to me that interpretation would also allow me to decorate those walls as I would any other interior walls. However, I am willing to bet if my wall decorations contained political slogans or my choice of wall color did not match a pre-approved palette then I would quickly learn that the area is NOT considered to be within the house.

It is really pretty easy:
- Read your deed restrictions
- Remember that you gave your word you would follow them
- Do not put up any lawn decorations
- Do not rely on creative interpretations as a way to go back on your word

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JGibson

It's odd that they don't allow the little white cross but at Christmas time they allow all types of Christmas ornaments outside your house.

Personally I couldn't care less.

Read your deed restrictions. Mine prohibit lawn ornaments except for seasonal displays which are limited in how long they may remain.

A little white cross for 30 days at Christmas would be okay.

An inflatable reindeer left up year round would be a prohibited lawn ornament.

[dougawhite]

Originally Posted by Pondboy

The repeal of the 55 mph speed limit in 1995 led to an increase in highway deaths

Study: A study found that the increased speed limits after the repeal accounted for an estimated 12,545 deaths over 10 years.

Fatality rates: A study found that fatality rates were 17% higher after the speed limit increases, even after accounting for changes in vehicle miles of travel.

Traffic Deaths per 100 Million Miles Driven Have Shown a Steady Decrease Over the Years, per NHTSA

[Lanieb]

I. New here and I don’t know what the white crosses mean?
Explain please.
LB

[Margefrog]

I don't get the purpose of flaunting one's beliefs to the point of bad taste, or even Insulting what it represents . Likewise others who think there's some benefit in bragging tastelessly about their political choice. Without that excessive "stuff" flying on carts, lawns, inside garages & lanai, The Villages would look nice, in keeping with the lakes, golf courses, etc. Why do some people feel the need to shove their ideas down other people's throats? It doesn't accomplish anything. It does feel disrespectful and trashy.

[Margefrog]

Live and let live also means don't shove your stuff in other people's faces. Lawn ornaments is one thing, planting the same religious symbol on lawns is very cult like. Most of us do not want to live amongst a cult. Why? Because cults are mentally unhealthy.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by Pondboy

The repeal of the 55 mph speed limit in 1995 led to an increase in highway deaths

Study: A study found that the increased speed limits after the repeal accounted for an estimated 12,545 deaths over 10 years.

Fatality rates: A study found that fatality rates were 17% higher after the speed limit increases, even after accounting for changes in vehicle miles of travel.

The studies guess how many deaths there would be without the speed increase in order to make that type of claim. It is a guess because there is no way to actually know how many there would have been. Actual data shows the number of deaths actually went down.

According to the NHTSA, traffic deaths declined in the United States between 1989 and 2009.

A total of 40 states raised their speed limits to 65 mph on rural Interstate highway and non-Interstate rural roads built to Interstate standards by 1988.

[Margefrog]

A letter from Community Compliance to everyone reminding them of the rules and regs should have an effect.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by Battlebasset

Why does a little white cross bother anyone? If it were a hammer/sickle flag I would look at it and roll my eyes, but I wouldn't get my undies in a bunch. You do you, I'll do me. Live and let live.

2,000 years of oppression by people claiming the Jews killed Jesus could be a reason why some people might be offended by it.

I never understood the hatred so many Christians had and still have for Jews when their own Messiah was a Jew.

That said, most Jews aren't offended when people advertise they worship a dead man.

[Margefrog]

Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN

What is the status of the case of the villages against the house with the little white crosses. I know they owed a lot of fines but I thought they took it to court. I just started walking and in my travels along Bailey trail around sea breeze I have seen 6 or 7 houses with the white crosses. Some have them stuck in flower pots. The most innovative one was 3 crosses stuck inside the lani which faces the road but clearly visible from the road.

This seems to be a failure of administration. Community Standards should send letters to everyone reminding them of the CC&Rs and where lawn "ornaments" can & cannot be placed. Most people don't read the restrictions. They assume they know them, and or just do what they please. The repetitive crosses do make the area look like a cult lives there. By most, cults are considered strange and unsafe. What does that say about The Villages?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Lanieb

I. New here and I don’t know what the white crosses mean?
Explain please.
LB

They can mean one or more of a few different things:

1. someone buried a pet immediately in front of or behind the cross.
2. "a Christian lives in the house and they want to make sure everyone knows it, because they lack the confidence in their own faith to live it rather than advertise it."
3. the person in the house is a White Christian Nationalist (modern terminology for evangelical bigot).
4. "someone who normally wouldn't put anything in that spot, but heard about how everyone hates Christians and put the cross there as a "neener neener" rather than any expression of their devotion to their god."

[lawngilander]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

It's great to see that we weren't able to get through a week, without a "little white crosses" thread.

You can't have one! You signed a Deed Restriction that they are NOT ALLOWED in TV.

SIMPLE.

Show me on the deed restrictions, where it says, “No little white crosses”.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by Lanieb

I. New here and I don’t know what the white crosses mean?
Explain please.
LB

People will lie and say they represent white supremacy or such, but it is simply not true

Crosses of many sizes and colors have been used as a symbol of Christianity since the second century CE (aka AD). It became commonly used in the fourth century CE.
This is because Jesus was executed by the Romans in a cross, called crucifixion.

It is just as stupid to say it represents nationalism or such as it is to say the OK symbol, made with your hand, represents white power.