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I wonder if the counties could give traffic enforcement powers to certain retired police officers who also work for Community Watch. Equip their vehicles with the flashing BLUE lights, in place of YELLOW. Seems like a win-win situation.
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I wonder if the counties could give traffic enforcement powers to certain retired police officers who also work for Community Watch. Equip their vehicles with the flashing BLUE lights, in place of YELLOW. Seems like a win-win situation.
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Are you expecting them to pull over all traffic offenders and have to run checks on each speed/DUI/stop sign infraction? I can't imagine why the Community Watch patrol would WANT that power - especially here in the Villages! You could not pay me enough to do it!
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Are you expecting them to pull over all traffic offenders and have to run checks on each speed/DUI/stop sign infraction? I can't imagine why the Community Watch patrol would WANT that power - especially here in the Villages! You could not pay me enough to do it!
Not only couldn't they pay you enough, they wouldn't pay you at all. You aren't a retired police officer. It would give retired officers a little extra spending money, plus make the roads a whole lot safer.
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Not only couldn't they pay you enough, they wouldn't pay you at all. You aren't a retired police officer...
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I wonder if the counties could give traffic enforcement powers to certain retired police officers who also work for Community Watch. Equip their vehicles with the flashing BLUE lights, in place of YELLOW. Seems like a win-win situation.
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Would they wear a hat that said retired PD. So we would behave
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I think retired police mostly have good pensions and don't want to work any more
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In order to have law enforcement powers they would have to be part of a police force. So what you are proposing is TV's own police force.
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In order to have law enforcement powers they would have to be part of a police force. So what you are proposing is TV's own police force.
Absolutely not. The sheriff (s) can appoint special deputies, and limit their powers to traffic offenses. The liability would fall under the county sheriffs.
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[QUOTE=BobnBev;1200665. It would give retired officers a little extra spending money, plus make the roads a whole lot safer.[/QUOTE]




Are you saying pay them on commission?
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Absolutely not. The sheriff (s) can appoint special deputies, and limit their powers to traffic offenses. The liability would fall under the county sheriffs.

Personally I don't see why a city of 100000 doesn't have its own police force other than cost.

But if they become part of the Sheriffs dept not community watch they would draw a salary from the Sheriff. Depending on where they retired from that could have an impact on any pension they receive. Not to mention the difficulty in getting retirees from different states all certified under Florida laws. and it's highly unlikely that a county Sheriff wants to take on the paperwork involved.

So the only logical solution is to form a TV police dept. 50000 homes times $100 each works out to 5 mil could get a lot for the money.

And another thought, Anyone performing traffic stops would need to be in uniform and armed.

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I would really hate to see this happen, regardless of who pays for it. The fact is that personalities change as we age. (Think of the retired officer who shot and killed the man in the theater for texting.) Plus, the level of training for police officers varies so much from community to community, let alone from state to state.

Things work pretty well here the way they are. We are in three counties and thus are patrolled by different entities (Sumter and Marion County Sheriffs and Lady Lake Police). All three forces seem to do a great job and cooperate well with each other.

This is definitely not a boat I want to see rocked.
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Personally I don't see why a city of 100000 doesn't have its own police force other than cost.

But if they become part of the Sheriffs dept not community watch they would draw a salary from the Sheriff. Depending on where they retired from that could have an impact on any pension they receive. Not to mention the difficulty in getting retirees from different states all certified under Florida laws. and it's highly unlikely that a county Sheriff wants to take on the paperwork involved.

So the only logical solution is to form a TV police dept. 50000 homes times $100 each works out to 5 mil could get a lot for the money.

And another thought, Anyone performing traffic stops would need to be in uniform and armed.
I am curious, in order to have a police force would The Villages have to first become a town or city so that the police force could then be "recognized" as a legal enforcement agency? Otherwise, wouldn't they then be an "armed security team"? I really don't know, perhaps someone else would know the answer? Should this be the case, then everything that is great about living in the Villages goes out the window.............
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