[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Not even worth a reply

...and yet - here you are, replying.

[Fastskiguy]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I was replying to you, but I was saying that younger folks are moving north AND south. The south doesn't have the monopoly on younger folks. I was also saying there's lots of stuff (including partying) to do up north.

^^^ You are now making a perfectly valid point that I agree with 100%. It is completely compatible with my previous comment. We are, and apparently have been, in agreement. However, I am missing the line where you said "sorry for calling you a special type of dim".

Joe

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Can’t build houses on golf courses designed as flood plains during heavy rain season.

I was being facetious.

The golf courses are not "Flood Plains".

Some areas of some golf courses, are part of The Villages Stormwater Management System. An entirely different animal.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Can’t build houses on golf courses designed as flood plains during heavy rain season.

As the atmosphere holds more water due to higher temperatures, in 30 years all of Florida will, likely become a flood plain. Then, the so-called "trolls" will need to put their clipboards in their rowboats, because golf carts are useless. Incidentally, the current US snowstorms are the result of warm air with high water content meeting the Canadian artic air.

[Papa_lecki]

TOTV needs a “This thread has gone off the rails, its time to close” button.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

...and yet - here you are, replying.

ironic, isn't it?????

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

As the atmosphere holds more water due to higher temperatures, in 30 years all of Florida will, likely become a flood plain. Then, the so-called "trolls" will need to put their clipboards in their rowboats, because golf carts are useless. Incidentally, the current US snowstorms are the result of warm air with high water content meeting the Canadian artic air.

30 years?????? Start adding zeros. You can add 2 zeros and multiply by 8, or add 3 zeros and take 70%---your choice. 30 years is NOT an option except in Fantasyland.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

It’s been that way forever, but then the younger generations get older and their bodies can no longer tolerate the more rigorous sports and they become golfers. One of the most common thing you will hear golfing with fellow Villagers is “ I wish I took up the sport when I was younger”.

I agree with that post. Golf IS a good sport for retired older people. I just wanted to point to the obvious fact that it is not so active at burning calories and strengthening the heart. To improve one's health it would be EVEN better to go outside and walk fast or slow jog on a soft surface like grass or the rubberized surfaces at the exercise machine, which also makes for a good workout. Also, those activities save you money as compared to paying golf fees. There are many other sports made for seniors that increase the heart rate faster than golf. Badminton would be one example. Water volleyball, regular volleyball, tennis, and softball, all increase the heart rate more than golf. I would personally advocate staying away from pickleball on a hard surface. Tennis can also be rough on the body when played on hard courts.

Notice the advantage of all these other sports over golf - namely that golf requires a huge infrastructure of outdoor area, grass cutting, fertilizer, and watering. All that wasted energy in maintenance and the maintenance workers are the only ones raising their heartbeat rate. Too much infrastructure money is spent for so little ATHLETIC and exercise rewards. A good yoga class would stretch the body and provide more mental and physical relaxation in a short time versus the long hours spent playing 18 holes of golf.

Personally, IF A PERSON must GOLF, THEN I think that a good COMBINATION of activities would be either a yoga class or a 1/2 hour of walking or slow jogging FOLLOWED by about 5 holes at a par 3 course. That would cut down on the waste of time and resources of regular golf while still maintaining good fitness. One can only prove the VALUE of what I have said by merely OBSERVING the stomach bulge on the majority of amateur or professional golfers - which is NOT present on the majority of tennis players.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I agree with that post. Golf IS a good sport for retired older people. I just wanted to point to the obvious fact that it is not so active at burning calories and strengthening the heart. To improve one's health it would be EVEN better to go outside and walk fast or slow jog on a soft surface like grass or the rubberized surfaces at the exercise machine, which also makes for a good workout. Also, those activities save you money as compared to paying golf fees. There are many other sports made for seniors that increase the heart rate faster than golf. Badminton would be one example. Water volleyball, regular volleyball, tennis, and softball, all increase the heart rate more than golf. I would personally advocate staying away from pickleball on a hard surface. Tennis can also be rough on the body when played on hard courts.

Notice the advantage of all these other sports over golf - namely that golf requires a huge infrastructure of outdoor area, grass cutting, fertilizer, and watering. All that wasted energy in maintenance and the maintenance workers are the only ones raising their heartbeat rate. Too much infrastructure money is spent for so little ATHLETIC and exercise rewards. A good yoga class would stretch the body and provide more mental and physical relaxation in a short time versus the long hours spent playing 18 holes of golf.

Personally, IF A PERSON must GOLF, THEN I think that a good COMBINATION of activities would be either a yoga class or a 1/2 hour of walking or slow jogging FOLLOWED by about 5 holes at a par 3 course. That would cut down on the waste of time and resources of regular golf while still maintaining good fitness. One can only prove the VALUE of what I have said by merely OBSERVING the stomach bulge on the majority of amateur or professional golfers - which is NOT present on the majority of tennis players.

I'm surprised more folks in The Villages, don't cover their heads with tin foil, to protect against intrusive thought waves. I'm going to Publix right now, to get a big roll of the "Heavy Duty" stuff!

I have a 33" waist and abhor Tennis and Yoga.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

One can only prove the VALUE of what I have said by merely OBSERVING the stomach bulge on the majority of amateur or professional golfers - which is NOT present on the majority of tennis players.

Except for, obviously, John Daly, most PGA pros are in phenomenal shape. They realized, around mid 90s, that fitness is a differentiator. Pro golfers are tracking fitness metrics with wearables, inconceivable even 5 years ago.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

TOTV needs a “This thread has gone off the rails, its time to close” button.

Or maybe one poster has 33 posts! WOW!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

30 years?????? Start adding zeros. You can add 2 zeros and multiply by 8, or add 3 zeros and take 70%---your choice. 30 years is NOT an option except in Fantasyland.

So in 29 years my house will be salable but not to people living in fantasyland who think in the next year will need a row boat to go food shopping?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The way I understand it is that golf is NOT very popular with generations younger than the baby-boomers. They seem to prefer the more rigorous sports like soccer, rock climbing, and hang gliding. Golf is from the "tea and crumpets" more docile era. Plus golf uses up too much land and fertilizer, which can run off and cause algae blooms. Plus golf courses eliminate many trees that are needed to keep metro areas cool and prevent excess CO2 from developing.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

As the atmosphere holds more water due to higher temperatures, in 30 years all of Florida will, likely become a flood plain. Then, the so-called "trolls" will need to put their clipboards in their rowboats, because golf carts are useless. Incidentally, the current US snowstorms are the result of warm air with high water content meeting the Canadian artic air.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I agree with that post. Golf IS a good sport for retired older people. I just wanted to point to the obvious fact that it is not so active at burning calories and strengthening the heart. To improve one's health it would be EVEN better to go outside and walk fast or slow jog on a soft surface like grass or the rubberized surfaces at the exercise machine, which also makes for a good workout. Also, those activities save you money as compared to paying golf fees. There are many other sports made for seniors that increase the heart rate faster than golf. Badminton would be one example. Water volleyball, regular volleyball, tennis, and softball, all increase the heart rate more than golf. I would personally advocate staying away from pickleball on a hard surface. Tennis can also be rough on the body when played on hard courts.

Notice the advantage of all these other sports over golf - namely that golf requires a huge infrastructure of outdoor area, grass cutting, fertilizer, and watering. All that wasted energy in maintenance and the maintenance workers are the only ones raising their heartbeat rate. Too much infrastructure money is spent for so little ATHLETIC and exercise rewards. A good yoga class would stretch the body and provide more mental and physical relaxation in a short time versus the long hours spent playing 18 holes of golf.

Personally, IF A PERSON must GOLF, THEN I think that a good COMBINATION of activities would be either a yoga class or a 1/2 hour of walking or slow jogging FOLLOWED by about 5 holes at a par 3 course. That would cut down on the waste of time and resources of regular golf while still maintaining good fitness. One can only prove the VALUE of what I have said by merely OBSERVING the stomach bulge on the majority of amateur or professional golfers - which is NOT present on the majority of tennis players.

Let's recap, since we're all over the place...

Golf is no longer played by the generation behind the baby boom... Except that it is. And it's a good sport for older people except when it's not... It's not a good enough exercise, so yoga and/or walking must be added because, some golfers have big bellies, but no senior tennis player have them (except they do, as do pickleball players)...

Seniors should stay away from pickleball (due to it being played on hard surfaces), but regular volleyball, tennis and badminton are good (even though they are also played on hard surfaces). But rock climbing and hang gliding are good senior sports (I guess there no stress on the joints in either of those activities...)

They should also do three different activities, yoga, walking/jogging, followed by a partial round of executive golf... Why not do yoga one day, take a walk or jog another day, lift weights yet another day, and play an entire round of golf yet another day?

Isn't daily exercise better? What better way to fill your day?

But I guess it's all moot, since the whole region will be under water in 30 years...

I guess that sucks for those younger (55 year olds) people buying in the new, southern areas...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I'm surprised more folks in The Villages, don't cover their heads with tin foil, to protect against intrusive thought waves. I'm going to Publix right now, to get a big roll of the "Heavy Duty" stuff!

I have a 33" waist and abhor Tennis and Yoga.

Great idea about the tin foil. You can "foil" away all the bad spirits. You may be in great shape with a 33" waist, but that would be a statistical N of 1 - and significantly narrower than the AVERAGE golfer.
........I don't REALLY expect anyone to quit golfing on my advice. I SIMPLY wanted to point out that there are some disadvantages (to ANY game or activity) and that there are people with different points of view.
.........Think of what I wrote as a "thought exercise".
PS.......The tin foil thing reminded me of the "Better Call Saul" series.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

Except for, obviously, John Daly, most PGA pros are in phenomenal shape. They realized, around mid 90s, that fitness is a differentiator. Pro golfers are tracking fitness metrics with wearables, inconceivable even 5 years ago.

I am sure that you are correct about the PRO golfers (amateurs, not so much). Many to nearly all Pro athletes that are top-ranked, have their own personal trainers and often multiple personal coaches.