[Challenger]

Would like to see some justification to the claim that block and poured are more expensive to maintain.

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by Challenger

Would like to see some justification to the claim that block and poured are more expensive to maintain.

now this is just a guess, poured is less maintenance, due the fact that it is one piece, I believe it's called monolithic.

So you don't have hundreds of seams like block.

I've been in many homes installing filters and I see block wall with seams/cracking etc. If it's inside I assume it's outside.

When those cracks aren't repaired timely water damage and maybe pathways fro termites to roof????

If I were going concrete I look to poured.

You know in time the stucco will need to be repainted, not sure how many years.

By the way painters charge here I guess 3-5,000 dollars

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

now this is just a guess, poured is less maintenance, due the fact that it is one piece, I believe it's called monolithic.

So you don't have hundreds of seams like block.

I've been in many homes installing filters and I see block wall with seams/cracking etc. If it's inside I assume it's outside.

When those cracks aren't repaired timely water damage and maybe pathways fro termites to roof????

If I were going concrete I look to poured.

You know in time the stucco will need to be repainted, not sure how many years.

By the way painters charge here I guess 3-5,000 dollars

I agree with this post. Have lived in poured Villa for 6 years- no maintenance costs (yet).

[tuccillo]

Who cares. It is the total heat gain (and moisture gain via air exchanges) of the structure that matters.

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

Interesting

How about trying an IR meter on the walls

[justjim]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

now this is just a guess, poured is less maintenance, due the fact that it is one piece, I believe it's called monolithic.

So you don't have hundreds of seams like block.

I've been in many homes installing filters and I see block wall with seams/cracking etc. If it's inside I assume it's outside.

When those cracks aren't repaired timely water damage and maybe pathways fro termites to roof????

If I were going concrete I look to poured.

You know in time the stucco will need to be repainted, not sure how many years.

By the way painters charge here I guess 3-5,000 dollars

Our first designer was concrete block and stucco. We now have a frame/vinyl designer home and for the reasons Jimbo has pointed out in this post and others. Its a matter of choice, looks, utility and cost.

[tuccillo]

Siding can last a long time, depending on the quality. I have no idea about the grade of siding used by the Developer. The block/stucco houses are not originally painted with the highest quality of paint plus there may be some issues with how soon they were painted after applying stucco. The Villages, in their new home disclaimer, indicates that you may need to paint in a few years. We will see - ours still looks like new after a couple of years.

Originally Posted by Challenger

Would like to see some justification to the claim that block and poured are more expensive to maintain.

[Carl in Tampa]

1. I don't have an insight on the relative costs of heating and air conditioning houses in TV according to the type of construction, but I suspect that the difference in terms of cost is insignificant.

2. The Villages developer claims that the houses they build, both stucco and frame, will withstand the same level of hurricane force winds. In addition, TV is so far inland that it is likely that a hurricane striking Florida will diminish to the level of a Tropical Storm before arriving here. The winds diminish as they travel over land.

3. My experience, after having homes in five different states, from the snowy east to the deep south, has been that heat exchange through windows can be a major factor in the cost of heating or cooling the home.

This can be mitigated by:

a. Taking into account the exposure to direct sun of windows in the house when shopping for a house.

b. Installing insulated windows if the house does not have them.

c. Installing awnings to protect windows from direct sunlight.

d. Adjusting window blinds, plantation shutters, etc. to prevent direct sunlight from shining on furniture and flooring at various times of the day which adds heat to the interior of the house.

4. I personally prefer the appearance of stucco, but it brings with it the necessity to repaint periodically. Also, as the ground settles over the years, cracks appear occasionally which must be mended and repainted.

In summary: I would not base my home shopping decision on whether the house is constructed of stucco or frame.

[gap2415]

We purchased a block home because termites love wood and thought block would give us more protection.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

But in a hurricane, the roof and windows are just as vulnerable.

For that reason to have a house with no roof makes little difference.

At that point we've evacuated and called the insurance Co.

The insulation in a concrete walled homes is very thin or minimal like 1".

It was mentioned the HVAC's in both are sized the same, that may be because the price difference is so small between two sized units is minimal and or better discounts buying 100 of one size vs 50 50

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It may make different in tornado which usually spins off hurricanes. Concrete vs tooth picks? Even if the roof is gone the wall are there on concrete / block home.

Radio reception for am is near impossible in concrete/ block. But due to less wood termites less likely if you had the roof frame sprayed.

Pros and cons either way IMO if I like one or the other and the price was right I would buy either

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by gap2415

We purchased a block home because termites love wood and thought block would give us more protection.

Have you looked in your attic?

all tasty wood, what about your interior walls

wooded furring strips on exterior walls.

I think you're in for a shock if you think your safe, inspect and treat as needed.

Same on frame built

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[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

It may make different in tornado which usually spins off hurricanes. Concrete vs tooth picks? Even if the roof is gone the wall are there on concrete / block home.

hard to live in home without the roof and everything else sucked out of it.

Also I read that those block walls have cracks after such an event, so they me be standing but compromised.

But due to less wood termites less likely if you had the roof frame sprayed.

show me a house that was sprayed?

even if it was that lasts only 5 years, you can't do it again unless you remove all the insulation........

Bottom line either house is a rebuild for the insurance companies.


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[debow]

Originally Posted by birdiebill

We are spending the month of May at The Villages. As we look around for a home style and price range that suits us, there are many factors to consider---location, new or pre-owned, type of construction, size, floor plan, number of bedrooms, etc. When deciding on type of construction, many factors come into play, but which are more energy efficient? The frame construction or the block/cement construction?

What ever you buy, invest in additional attic insulation. That's where you have the majority of heat gain, cooling lose. I have a stucco, it seems really tight, no air infiltration. Can't speak for framed construction.

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by debow

What ever you buy, invest in additional attic insulation. That's where you have the majority of heat gain, cooling lose. I have a stucco, it seems really tight, no air infiltration. Can't speak for framed construction.

You are correct regarding the attic insulation. May I add that block construction provides a very quiet inside environment from outside noise.

[KEVIN & JOSIE]

As long as either choice lasts the rest of our lives, that's all that really matters.

[Allegiance]

Is a poured cement roof out of the question?

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