[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

A good traffic calming idea - make Morse and Buena Vista a toll road for cars, the entire way.

Just like the toll road in the Mel Brooks movie Blazing Saddles.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Need to pay attention, the CDD’s don’t own the roads, the county does.

And the idea of tolls was probably sarcasm.

[HandyGrandpap]

Fact: The county owns the road
Most likely outcome for paying for the renovations: As is standard with other similiar projects the county will issue a muni bond to be amoritized over XX? number of years. This is standard protocol and is what will happen if approved. The selling point is that nobody in the county will take a big one time hit.

[ronda]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

As a resident of CDD1 who frequently travels Morse Blvd (especially between the intersections with San Marino and 466) I have a strong interest in this issue. I just finished an exhaustive review of the Kimberly Horn Report outlining the situation as well as the two proposed modifications to the current traffic system. My conclusions are as follows, from the prospective of a golf cart driver:

- Unlike many others, I don’t find the current system to be that bad. The only part of the existing system I really dislike is the crossover for south bound cart traffic just north of the gate leading to 466.
- The benefits of the two proposed traffic modifications (separating golf carts from automobile traffic and bicycle traffic (under one alternative), and eliminating the crossover north of the 466 gate), are far outweighed by the disadvantages (multiple stops created at road crossings as well as a nightmarish crossover of Morse south of San Marino and north of the Postal Station).
- The work required for either alternative will be very disruptive for an extended period of time and significantly change the character of the existing mature area.
- The modifications required under either alternative would be very disruptive to many unfortunate abutters to the involved areas (it wouldn’t affect me).
-Sumter County wants nothing to do with the project, making permitting and cost sharing a very difficult task.
- Both of the proposed traffic modifications are expensive and it appears the cost burden would be solely that of the 3,400 CDD1 residents at a cost of roughly $4,500 per residency. And that’s before the typical cost overruns.

Based on these observations/conclusions, I say leave things the way they currently are, or significantly downsize the project and try to find a way to improve the crossover for southbound traffic just north of the 466 gate.

That’s one persons opinion, I’m sure others will be different.

Just wondering how the $4,500 would be collected? Added to your amenities fee and recovered over several years? other? I haven't heard of "assessment Fees" in TV, like they do in condo associations.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by ronda

Just wondering how the $4,500 would be collected? Added to your amenities fee and recovered over several years? other? I haven't heard of "assessment Fees" in TV, like they do in condo associations.

The CDD will finance the project with bonds, the annual bond repayment will go into the CDD budget, and that will result in higher CDD budget. Getting passed to the residents.

[dougawhite]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

On another note, when I go through that gate in a car, which isn’t often, I always stop in front of the crossover and let several golf carts through. The smiles, waves, and thank you gestures I receive from cart drivers makes me so happy i can easily ignore the a holes behind me in cars beeping at me : )

Stupid practice for a car to give up its right-of-way to a golf cart. Nobody expects that and it messes up everyone around you not knowing what you're up to. In fact, it's illegal for a car to stop in the middle of the road like that!

[dougawhite]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

??????, where are you going to magically find another southbound route? Perhaps you should suggest that to Kimberly Horn, the Engineering firm that produced the traffic study. Let them know they totally screwed up the study by not identifying a non-existing route and proposing your fairy tale idea.

Make Rolling Acres the other One-Way road going southbound. This would solve the problems on both roadways!

[dougawhite]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

Make Morse Blvd one way north - expand the buffer for the golf carts.

Find another route south.

Make Rolling Acres the other One-Way road going southbound. This would solve the problems on both roadways!

[dougawhite]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

So, basically, you offer half a plan.

Make Rolling Acres the other One-Way road going southbound. This would solve the problems on both roadways!

[patfla06]

When I drive up north I avoid using Morse Blvd.
Having golf carts right next to me for that length of roadway just
doesn’t feel safe to me.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by kkingston57

And the idea of tolls was probably sarcasm.

Has anybody got a dime?
I don’t got a dime
I got nothing.

[jmaccallum]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

It’s a built out mature area so presumably traffic levels should be constant. Oh wait, they are building Villas where the Hacienda Hills clubhouse used to be and apartments in Spanish Springs. Never mind !

Four (4) apartments? 26-29 Villas at Hacienda? So, 33 more cars/golf carts at most. Hmmmm…

[jmaccallum]

Originally Posted by I'm Popeye!

When was the last time you have been to the Villages...

Today.

[I'm Popeye!]

Originally Posted by dougawhite

Make Rolling Acres the other One-Way road going southbound. This would solve the problems on both roadways!

Have you seen the Traffic on Rolling Acres, especially around school time (2:30 - 3:30 PM) or people getting off work (4-6 PM)? Probably not!

[I'm Popeye!]

Originally Posted by jmaccallum

Four (4) apartments? 26-29 Villas at Hacienda? So, 33 more cars/golf carts at most. Hmmmm…

Really?
This picture below was posted by someone earlier...
Only 11 carts at the moment; imagine another 22 more, according to your calculations!
. . . . . . . 33 more cars/golf carts at most. Hmmmm...