[addmup]

This information came from The District:

"As you know, the Project Wide Advisory Committee and Sumter Landing Community Development District approved the contract for the Morse Island Revetment Project.

This project involves clearing the shoreline area of all vegetation and trees, installing a mesh fabric with a rock layer and then installing rip-rap around the entire shoreline. The project also requires restoration of landscaping, trees, irrigation and any Golf Cart paths. The main staging area for this project is Sunset Park, which will be closed for the duration of this project.

The contractor mobilized today (29 Jan), and will primarily start at the rock quarry in the Southern area of The Villages to prepare, size, sort and stage the rip-rap material before starting site clearing at Sunset Park. Once the contractor mobilizes at Sunset Park (Mid-February), there will be impacts to both Golf Cart Path and Morse Boulevard Traffic.

Flaggers will be in place to direct traffic and/or close traffic lanes in the work zone, in particular when construction vehicles are commuting the bridge and island area. Construction is scheduled to take up to 240 calendar days (September 2024). Work hours will be 7AM to 7PM from Monday to Friday. Again, lane closures on the bridge will likely begin starting in early to mid-February. Flaggers will be onsite and visible to coordinate golf, pedestrian and vehicular traffic through the work zone for the duration of this project.

We appreciate your patience as we work with the contractor to ensure this project is completed in a safe and timely manner. Thank you in advance for your understanding. If you have any questions, please call District Property Management at 352-753-4022."

[Stu from NYC]

Hope they can get enough rip rap material.

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Hope they can get enough rip rap material.

The developer is donating it from the stone they gather in clearing the new areas.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

The developer is donating it from the stone they gather in clearing the new areas.

More like the Developer has rock to get rid of and found someone to remove the excess for him.

Stone/rock has minimal value, the cost of stone/rock is in sorting, processing and transportation.

As usual, the Developer has come with a self-serving plan and it looks suspiciously like the District circumvented procurement standards, by "accepting a donation" of materials (without the normal public process) and then forcing the project Contractor to process, sort and transport those materials as part of his bid. Clever.

(Yes, I read the entire 60 page Bidding Documents. It is REQUIRED that the Contractor use the "free rock" that was "donated" by the Developer, regardless of the Contractor's potential to obtain the specified material at a lower cost. The bid also leaves open the question, if the donated rock/stone is suitable and can be processed to meet FDOT standards.)

Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

More like the Developer has rock to get rid of and found someone to remove the excess for him.

Stone/rock has minimal value, the cost of stone/rock is in sorting, processing and transportation.

As usual, the Developer has come with a self-serving plan and it looks suspiciously like the District circumvented procurement standards, by "accepting a donation" of materials (without the normal public process) and then forcing the project Contractor to process, sort and transport those materials as part of his bid. Clever.

(Yes, I read the entire 60 page Bidding Documents. It is REQUIRED that the Contractor use the "free rock" that was "donated" by the Developer, regardless of the Contractor's potential to obtain the specified material at a lower cost. The bid also leaves open the question, if the donated rock/stone is suitable and can be processed to meet FDOT standards.)

Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

How much is the Developer valuing this donated rock, for their tax deduction?

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Exactly!

And the value of the rock donation is between the developer, his accountants and the IRS, NOT anyone else. Even if someone might think they are an expert rock value appraiser.

The value of the rock is a public issue, when the CDC accepts a "donation" and then requires a Contractor to sort, process, transport and use that rock.

Some "rock" has a negative value.

Then again, this could have been an completely selfless and magnanimous donation by the Developer.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The value of the rock is a public issue, when the CDC accepts a "donation" and then requires a Contractor to sort, process, transport and use that rock.

Some "rock" has a negative value.

Then again, this could have been an completely selfless and magnanimous donation by the Developer.

Is it? Is it really? Wouldn't "the contractor" have to do that anyway if he bought the rock, or pay more for rock that was already sorted, transported and transported????

Then again, I am not an expert on tax law.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Is it? Is it really? Wouldn't "the contractor" have to do that anyway if he bought the rock, or pay more for rock that was already sorted, transported and transported????

Not necessarily.

The best analogy I can think of, it's like the folks you see advertising "free palm trees" ... come take it out of ground, do it neatly, refill the hole and re-seed my lawn".

Does it work for both parties? Sometimes, I suppose it does.

In the case of the free stone, the Contractor has to move it 25 miles. That's a lot of transportation.

& not to put too fine a point on it, but the Developer is not known for his largesse.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Not necessarily.

The best analogy I can think of, it's like the folks you see advertising "free palm trees" ... come take it out of ground, do it neatly, refill the hole and re-seed my lawn".

Does it work for both parties? Sometimes, I suppose it does.

In the case of the free stone, the Contractor has to move it 25 miles. That's a lot of transportation.

& not to put too fine a point on it, but the Developer is not known for his largesse.

I agree. But the question at hand is: If the person who "donates" the free palm tree claims it as a deduction on their tax return, is the "public" entitled to know for how much, or is it between the donor and the IRS?

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The value of the rock is a public issue, when the CDC accepts a "donation" and then requires a Contractor to sort, process, transport and use that rock.

Some "rock" has a negative value.

Then again, this could have been an completely selfless and magnanimous donation by the Developer.

Ya mean like the brand spanking new, top of the line, massive new schools?

[bsloan1960]

Where the heck is Morse Island?

Originally Posted by addmup

This information came from The District:

"As you know, the Project Wide Advisory Committee and Sumter Landing Community Development District approved the contract for the Morse Island Revetment Project.

This project involves clearing the shoreline area of all vegetation and trees, installing a mesh fabric with a rock layer and then installing rip-rap around the entire shoreline. The project also requires restoration of landscaping, trees, irrigation and any Golf Cart paths. The main staging area for this project is Sunset Park, which will be closed for the duration of this project.

The contractor mobilized today (29 Jan), and will primarily start at the rock quarry in the Southern area of The Villages to prepare, size, sort and stage the rip-rap material before starting site clearing at Sunset Park. Once the contractor mobilizes at Sunset Park (Mid-February), there will be impacts to both Golf Cart Path and Morse Boulevard Traffic.

Flaggers will be in place to direct traffic and/or close traffic lanes in the work zone, in particular when construction vehicles are commuting the bridge and island area. Construction is scheduled to take up to 240 calendar days (September 2024). Work hours will be 7AM to 7PM from Monday to Friday. Again, lane closures on the bridge will likely begin starting in early to mid-February. Flaggers will be onsite and visible to coordinate golf, pedestrian and vehicular traffic through the work zone for the duration of this project.

We appreciate your patience as we work with the contractor to ensure this project is completed in a safe and timely manner. Thank you in advance for your understanding. If you have any questions, please call District Property Management at 352-753-4022."

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

& not to put too fine a point on it, but the Developer is not known for his largesse.

Probably 99% of residents and thousands of employed workers might disagree with your negative "point".

[4$ALE]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

Probably 99% of residents and thousands of employed workers might disagree with your negative "point".

I agree but would like to add that most of the other 1% are newly arrived residents that are experts on the Villages.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

Where the heck is Morse Island?

sunset park

[4$ALE]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

Where the heck is Morse Island?

Under the "John E. Parker Bridge"