[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by butlerism

Speed Cameras and shut down the gates, resident access only.
Problem solved.

The larger daily problem is the non residents that cut through TV.

Contractor access by approval only, and a contractor badge.
If they get clocked speeding, they lose their badge.

I had Johnny Nascar tailgating/ Drafting me and then blow past me at the Hwy 441 / Morse gate.
I rode the center white line to the gate and then at the gate, I stopped hard before the sensor. That car hit the gate arm.
Nice $250 penalty ( Gate Arm repair) for being an idiot.

Mr Nascar assumed I would trip the sensor first.

NOT!!!!!!

Hee Hee

"Hee-Hee"

If that camera were there, you could be charged with reckless driving and failure to keep right!

HEE-HEE!!!
(nice $750 fine)

[talonip]

Originally Posted by DAVES

Not defending anyone. We tend to expect demand perfect, it does not exist.

Front page news? Hiding this event? Where to put any story is of course the editors choice. Hiding the event, they could simply chose not to report it. Putting a speed sensor was a declaration if interest. I would expect it records the readings-collecting data.

One of the insurance companies offered a discount if you would put a monitor in your car to access your driving. It failed because few would agree to that. There are endless posts about speeding golf carts, speeding cars, bikes, stop signs, walkers, dogs, kids etc. It will not happen but all should review what they do, that is what you are most in control of.

For walkers, and bike riders, some do, too many don't- wear bright colors-it may save your life.

I walk very day. I see dumb stuff every day it’s dangerous out there. It is the problem in this world that nobody is held accountable Anymore. It’s always the dead guys fault because of what he is wearing. Come on.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by talonip

I walk very day. I see dumb stuff every day it’s dangerous out there. It is the problem in this world that nobody is held accountable Anymore. It’s always the dead guys fault because of what he is wearing. Come on.

Guess what? If the pedestrian (like many) is wearing all dark clothing at night without any reflectors or light and walking in the road instead of the sidewalk, IT IS HIS FAULT. You should not need night vision goggles to se a pedestrian.

[The Caretaker]

We live in Spartina Villas just a few houses down from the entrance. Cars go by here 30-40 miles per hr. No regard for life! SLOW DOWN YOU ARE RETIRED!!’ What is so important that you have to drive like this????? Just asking!

[Number 10 GI]

I haven't seen anything "official" that shows the driver was speeding, so why all the focus on speeding? From what has been posted the pedestrian walked in front of the vehicle, the pedestrian's fault. I see so many people walking with the traffic when it has been taught since most of us were grade school students that we should walk facing the traffic. That way you can see the driver's face which helps the pedestrian to determine if the driver sees them. Walking facing the traffic gives you time to get out of the way if the driver doesn't see you. Walking with traffic you have your back to the vehicles and you have no warning. In most of the pedestrian accidents I heard about over the years the pedestrian was at fault for not paying attention. It's just like with golf carts vs cars, a cart will come out on the short end of a collision and a pedestrian will fare even worse. You are an idiot if you think that everyone else should be responsible for your safety. Get your head out of that dark, smelly place and pay attention to your surroundings.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by ncic50

At approximately 6:34 PM, Oct. 19th, a 69 yr old Villages Resident was struck and killed by a motor vehicle while walking on Piney Woods Path at Valleybrook Way in the Village of Dunedin. The victim died from his injuries. Even though not clearly posted, this area as per Section 17-5 has a 20 mph speed limit.

We recently moved back to The Village of Osceola Hills in TV. Our house is on Deskin Lane which has a designated (but NOT posted) 20 mph speed limit. While out walking on Deskin Lane, cars and trucks zoom past us going 30 mph and more. Like almost all of TV streets there are NO posted 20 mph speed signs here.

On Sept. 9th, I telephoned the Sumter County Public Works to inquire about having 20 mph speed signs posted on Deskin Lane. The County Commissioner stated that he would look into it. In a very short time I received a call from a Sumter County Sheriff's Supervisor. The SCSO Supervisor was receptive to my concerns, conducted himself in a highly professional manner and is a great ambassador for the SCSO. SCSO placed a Mobile Electronic Speed Monitor on Deskin Lane near St. Stephen Street. Most motorist slowed down when seeing the device but others just flew by repeatedly at 25-35 mph. After about 3 weeks the sign was relocated to another street in TV.

Unfortunately the SCSO is understaffed and under paid so the likelihood of the SCSO doing more traffic enforcement does not appear to be happening in the near future. We residents of The Villages collectively pay a lot of money in taxes and unfortunately more people will die in TV from motor vehicle vs motor vehicle and motor vehicle vs pedestrian accidents. SLOW DOWN people. We need more SCSO's on the streets.

Like most noteworthy news articles the 2 1/2" long article regarding Tuesday's fatal accident was buried in Section C, Page 4 of The Villages Daily Sun. Instead of hiding news worthy items like this, which is a disservice to Villages Residents; stories like the fatal accident should be on the front page of the paper. We deserve better!

My neighbors complain about this issue too as they drive their golf carts with speed governor altered

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by butlerism

Speed Cameras and shut down the gates, resident access only.
Problem solved.

The larger daily problem is the non residents that cut through TV.

Contractor access by approval only, and a contractor badge.
If they get clocked speeding, they lose their badge.

I had Johnny Nascar tailgating/ Drafting me and then blow past me at the Hwy 441 / Morse gate.
I rode the center white line to the gate and then at the gate, I stopped hard before the sensor. That car hit the gate arm.
Nice $250 penalty ( Gate Arm repair) for being an idiot.

Mr Nascar assumed I would trip the sensor first.

NOT!!!!!!

Hee Hee

ROAD RAGE IN THE MAKING...

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by Lindaws

This is an all over problem. All our streets are 20 but few do it.

Not sure where you live, but I've seen speed limits of 15, 20, 35, and 45 throughout TV.

[Fenster]

OP, there is never a shortage of ignorance here. Many people drive too fast. That’s a fact.
It’s foolhardy for people to try speculate about the pedestrian’s medical history, etc.
The issue here is not just this poor person, and his family. (It could be a factor.)
The issue is also not the weight of the car versus the weight of the person (clearly a factor).
The issue is that speedy motorists have less reaction time.
As a young person, I drove too fast. But over the years, I’ve seen too many unnecessary fatalities. And as we age, our reaction times are longer.
Please, everyone, just slow down.
Leave earlier.
Save yourself a costly lawsuit.
Most importantly, save a life.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Fenster

OP, there is never a shortage of ignorance here. Many people drive too fast. That’s a fact.
It’s foolhardy for people to try speculate about the pedestrian’s medical history, etc.
The issue here is not just this poor person, and his family. (It could be a factor.)
The issue is also not the weight of the car versus the weight of the person (clearly a factor).
The issue is that speedy motorists have less reaction time.
As a young person, I drove too fast. But over the years, I’ve seen too many unnecessary fatalities. And as we age, our reaction times are longer.
Please, everyone, just slow down.
Leave earlier.
Save yourself a costly lawsuit.
Most importantly, save a life.

Please explain how you came to the conclusion that speed was "the issue" in this unfortunate accident, since there was absolutely no report that the pick up truck was "speeding".

[Dorebea]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I understand the concern about speeding and 50 in a 30 is a bit much. Do you really think that if the car that struck the pedestrian had been traveling only 20mph then the person would have survived? When 4000 lbs of vehicle strikes 150 lbs of human the vehicle always wins.

Rather than determining how slow a vehicle needs to go in order to safely strike a human, perhaps it would be wise to look into why the collision occurred and work to prevent that. Was the driver not paying attention? Was there a blind curve (doubtful)? Was the pedestrian walking in the center of the street or crossing the street without looking?

I'm not proposing to blame the victim , I'm just suggesting not to jump to the conclusion that speed was the primary and only cause.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting there is a ‘safe speed’ to hit pedestrians. A big benefit of going slower is that it provides more reaction time to avoid accidents.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Dorebea

I don’t think anyone is suggesting there is a ‘safe speed’ to hit pedestrians. A big benefit of going slower is that it provides more reaction time to avoid accidents.

Well there isn't, after all you can die of an epidural bleed after tripping over your own feet. There also has to be a happy medium in this "no such thing as risk free" world. If a pedestrian is walking a 2 1/2 mph, then a speed limit for vehicle of 1 mph would probably prevent all accidents of this type, however........

Also, while reaction time , IN GENERAL, slows with age, nobody knows the reaction time of every driver out there, and therefore the generalization that "everybody needs to slow down" is ridiculous. The people exceeding the speed limit need to slow down to abide by the law. There are others that need to "speed up". And once you are out of the bubble and on an interstate, you need to stay the **** out of the left lane if you are going 55.

[Shellshack]

I love conspiracy theories. Over 38,000 traffic deaths in 2020. We drive to the Villages from Illinois. Over half the cars are exceeding the speed limits.
Not a front page story!
Speeders everywhere in America. Traffic deaths, tragic as they may be to friends and family, not extraordinary newsworthy events. No point to accuse the newspaper of hiding the facts which they published. Sad enough without needlessly pointing blame.

[patfla06]

This is a very sad situation. The loss of someones life is awful.

Why do the majority of us rush through the few years we have left??

Yesterday I was going around the roundabout towards the Sanibel gate
and didn’t think the cars coming to the circle were going to stop.

WHY do you rush at 40 mph knowing you’ll be coming to the roundabout
and then JAM on your brakes?? Why not slow down as you approach?

WHAT IS THE RUSH????

[sjeffries]

Originally Posted by ncic50

At approximately 6:34 PM, Oct. 19th, a 69 yr old Villages Resident was struck and killed by a motor vehicle while walking on Piney Woods Path at Valleybrook Way in the Village of Dunedin. The victim died from his injuries. Even though not clearly posted, this area as per Section 17-5 has a 20 mph speed limit.

We recently moved back to The Village of Osceola Hills in TV. Our house is on Deskin Lane which has a designated (but NOT posted) 20 mph speed limit. While out walking on Deskin Lane, cars and trucks zoom past us going 30 mph and more. Like almost all of TV streets there are NO posted 20 mph speed signs here.

On Sept. 9th, I telephoned the Sumter County Public Works to inquire about having 20 mph speed signs posted on Deskin Lane. The County Commissioner stated that he would look into it. In a very short time I received a call from a Sumter County Sheriff's Supervisor. The SCSO Supervisor was receptive to my concerns, conducted himself in a highly professional manner and is a great ambassador for the SCSO. SCSO placed a Mobile Electronic Speed Monitor on Deskin Lane near St. Stephen Street. Most motorist slowed down when seeing the device but others just flew by repeatedly at 25-35 mph. After about 3 weeks the sign was relocated to another street in TV.

Unfortunately the SCSO is understaffed and under paid so the likelihood of the SCSO doing more traffic enforcement does not appear to be happening in the near future. We residents of The Villages collectively pay a lot of money in taxes and unfortunately more people will die in TV from motor vehicle vs motor vehicle and motor vehicle vs pedestrian accidents. SLOW DOWN people. We need more SCSO's on the streets.

Like most noteworthy news articles the 2 1/2" long article regarding Tuesday's fatal accident was buried in Section C, Page 4 of The Villages Daily Sun. Instead of hiding news worthy items like this, which is a disservice to Villages Residents; stories like the fatal accident should be on the front page of the paper. We deserve better!

I read that the pedestrian stepped off the walkway and into the path of the pickup truck. Can’t blame the driver when that happens. Sad situation!