[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Hrvbar

Then you aren’t watching close enough. I have seen plenty of t-bone collisions in my 17 years of living here.

Plenty? In my 19 years I don’t recall reading about any t-bone accidents.....more side swipes.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by Hrvbar

Then you aren’t watching close enough. I have seen plenty of t-bone collisions in my 17 years of living here.

Wow, never saw a head on or a t-bone collision in the roundabouts. But plenty of rear enders and glancing blows.

[Hrvbar]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

I agree with others. Roundabouts are far far safer. That is why they exist. To suggest that turning if front of a car going 45 mph is no different than passing in front of a car slowing to enter, or moving around, a roundabout is silly.

First of all, I had to read your post three times to understand what you meant. Have you ever seen someone with their right hand turn signal on, fail to turn onto the road that you assume they are going to? They continue to go around and the other person goes, t-bone.

Second of all, did I say that turning in front of a car going 45 mph and “passing” in front of a car slowing to enter was equally dangerous? Perhaps you should quote my post before paraphrasing what you think I said.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by Hrvbar

In regards to The Villages, “busy signalized intersections” are not more dangerous than “well-designed warranted roundabouts”...

Again, simply wrong.

[Chatbrat]

When a vehicle makes a left turn from the right lane in a circle , recipe for a T-Bone and not the medium rare kind--lots of them here-

[ColdNoMore]

Make 466 a divided one-way eastbound and 466A...a divided one-way westbound.


That oughta cut down on the number of old folks out driving around in their cars, on 45 MPH roads, just for the heck of it and force more to use the roundabouts...which ARE safer than a normal intersection.







Relax folks, I'm obviously just joking. Especially knowing what it would do to the East/West roads... inside the Bubble.

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

IMHO, the source of the problem is a bad mix, elderly drivers driving cars that no longer fit them, elderly drivers with vision & medical issues, constant flow of visitors who don't know the lay of the land, high alcohol consumption, roads that are now obsolete--put them all together & BOOM--

...and distracted drivers from cell phones/texting while driving.

[Chatbrat]

Over a year ago my wife witnessed a woman driving an older suburban, take out 6 cars while backing out of a parking space, she had her front wheels turned ,hit the gas and did a semi-circle in reverse--hit cars behind her & then cars alongside her-this happened in the Colony Publix lot

[Viperguy]

I would say there are at least as many "impatient" young people, (or more)

[NavyVet]

The intersections on 466A at Morse and Buena Vista are equally precarious as well.
Lost count of the many accidents and close calls I've witnessed at the all the horrible roundabouts. I can't stand them and avoid them whenever possible, usually via 301 or Microracetrack/Rolling Acres.

[Chatbrat]

I do SPEED, but its to avoid being boxed in, with the potential for boomerang accidents--I was always taught , look for space and keep the space--its your bail out area- I avoid riding with any vehicle alongside mine, especially 18 wheelers, when I pass its pedal to the metal

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

I do SPEED, but its to avoid being boxed in, with the potential for boomerang accidents--I was always taught , look for space and keep the space--its your bail out area- I avoid riding with any vehicle alongside mine, especially 18 wheelers, when I pass its pedal to the metal

I tend to agree. While speed may contribute to some accidents, the drivers who are going a little faster tend to have better driving skills, unless they are drunk or suicidal. I don't worry about the driver on 466 going 55 in a 45 zone. Either he is ahead of me, in which case I won't catch up to him, or he is coming up from behind and will usually pass me in a relatively safe manner. The problem children are the drivers going 30 in the 45 zone. As you approach them, you are entering a zoo where other drivers are making highly questionable driving decisions to get around them. APPROACH WITH CAUTION, you never know what they will do. A few years ago there was a gentleman who posted he always drives 30 on 466 in the 45 zone and purposely drives in the far left lane because HE thinks 30 is fast enough! Who died and left this guy in charge, to unilaterally change the law and then try to enforce it by shoving it down everyone else's throat? IMHO, THAT is grounds for permanent license revocation.

[Chatbrat]

Golfing Eagles, see that you lived in NYC & its suburbs--I used to commute from Chatham NJ,to Staten Island--it caused me to have the driving skills that I currently have and a way different mind set on how to drive in traffic

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Golfing Eagles, see that you lived in NYC & its suburbs--I used to commute from Chatham NJ,to Staten Island--it caused me to have the driving skills that I currently have and a way different mind set on how to drive in traffic

Totally agree. Lived on Long Island 20 years, Brooklyn for 4 and Staten Island for 3. You always knew your surroundings, speed of vehicles in your area, following distances and could anticipate what the other drivers were likely to do. Down here, it is a total crapshoot. People here seem to be totally oblivious to their surroundings, not only on the road but in the grocery stores, restaurants, town squares, etc.

[Nucky]

I agree that living up there, Chatbrat & GE's previous territory sorta prepares you for living here. But it is really amazing what tunnelvision people have around here. One Goal. Get to the destination at any cost to someone else. I don't even care anymore. What's the difference? Who is going to change? Nobody!

I drove a Tractor Trailer, Dump Truck, Taxi, Etc. without an accident and have more miles in reverse than most people have going forward and I make an error now and then so I'm now in The Flock of Fockers! The truth hurts. I backed into my own garage with the driver door open and it was a wake up call to straighten up and fly rite!

This accident could the OP brought up could be anyone of us here at anytime. That's why they call it an accident and not an on purpose.

You have to have eyes in the back of your head and be aware of your surroundings at all times. Protect yourself and your own property. Park in front of any Publix for free entertainment of those who gotta get somewhere quick. It's a hoot!!!! Someone who can barely walk getting honked at by some young hoodlum, juvenile delinquent!