[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

True but did appreciate the words expressed. OP should have mentioned he took it from someplace else.

That requires integrity, honesty, all the things he was taught back in Wisconsin in the 50's and 60's. But he's old now - maybe he forgot

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

The 1950s and early to mid 1960s were good times in many ways. Our standard of living was gradually improving. The country and indeed the world were recovering from WWII (Marshall Plan in Europe). The GI Bill provided college education opportunities for veterans. I recall reading somewhere that the marriage age in 1958 was the youngest it had been in 200 years, one working parent could support a family and that 12-1/2% of one worker's income provided housing. Young families were moving into newly built suburban housing. Children walked or rode their bikes to and from school where they were safe and well educated by qualified and devoted teachers who were backed up by caring parents. Highways were being built. Life got better and better.

However SAT scores peaked in 1965. Thereafter many aspects of life became increasingly troublesome and difficult. I no longer feel safe from violent personal or property crime; many school systems if they can still even be called that are just awful. I'll stop there as it would be too depressing to continue.

Gee - who were the adults in 1965? The answer: the people born in the 1940's and 1950's.

If you want to know why a society is horrible, turn and ask the parents of that society. They're the ones that raised it.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Yes, that is true..... with some small % of exceptions. That is the rule, but ALL rules have some exceptions.

I completely disagree with the content of this post...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The facts and figures tell the story of increasing wealth disparity (inequities) increasing from about 1970 on. Use the Google machine.

One can have nothing to do with the other...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Let us not forget the Irish and Italians when THEY immigrated to the USA (many of whom had no documentation). Those with rose-colored glasses for the past might want to remove the cataracts before wasting a dime on a new pair.

You mean the signs that said "Irish Need Not Apply"?

Hmmm... Maybe that's why so many became cops... It was one of the few jobs they could get...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

That requires integrity, honesty, all the things he was taught back in Wisconsin in the 50's and 60's. But he's old now - maybe he forgot

Oh, please... Who care where it came from?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Gee - who were the adults in 1965? The answer: the people born in the 1940's and 1950's.

If you want to know why a society is horrible, turn and ask the parents of that society. They're the ones that raised it.

Don't blame me... I turned 8 in 1965... The only thing I was raising was my goldfish...

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Gee - who were the adults in 1965? The answer: the people born in the 1940's and 1950's.

???

Most of the high school students taking the SAT in 1965 were 17 years old plus or minus a year and so were born around 1948. Most of their parents reached adulthood prior to or during WWII and were therefore born between 1910 and 1930. 1965 was the peak SAT score year reached as scores rose during the 1950s and early 1960s. Thus parents of children raised during the 1950s and early to mid 1960s did an incredible job or raising their children as did society as a whole. The 1950s were wonderful years in which to grow up and obtain a good education for many reasons.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Most of the high school students taking the SAT in 1965 were 17 years old plus or minus a year and so were born around 1948. Most of their parents reached adulthood prior to or during WWII and were therefore born between 1910 and 1930. 1965 was the peak SAT score year. Sat scores rose during the 1950s and early 1960s. Thus parents of children raised during the 1950s and early to mid 1960s did an incredible job or raising their children as did society as a whole. The 1950s were wonderful years in which to grow up for many reasons.

Only if your parents were fortunate enough to have been born white, had both parents married to each other and living at home with each other, and of /enough/ means that your mother could stay home and not have to work for a living.

If you were black, or your mother had to work for a living, or was a single parent, then no - it wasn't "wonderful years" for many reasons.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Only if your parents were fortunate enough to have been born white, had both parents married to each other and living at home with each other, and of /enough/ means that your mother could stay home and not have to work for a living.

If you were black, or your mother had to work for a living, or was a single parent, then no - it wasn't "wonderful years" for many reasons.

The mothers of some of my close friends also worked. Some mothers had to as they had lost their husbands in the war. Some classmates had mothers who were physicians, nurses, teachers, worked at or managed retail stores and restaurants, you name it. My mother was a teacher but my parents elected to live on less income so she could stay home and take care of my brother and me. We squeaked by. My father worked long hours on commission in retail yet earned little. Several of the children in my class were fatherless, not because they were illegitimate but because their fathers had been killed in combat.

From what I have read illegitimacy has a lot to do with childhood poverty, regardless of race or ethnicity. Children in groups having the highest illegitimacy rates suffer the highest poverty rates. The percentage of children raised in traditional two parent nuclear family units since the 1950s has diminished over the years. IMHO this has created many of the problems we now experience such as higher and higher rates of crime, poor schools and substance abuse.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Queenie504

I'm really glad I didnt have to live through the 1950's with sexism, racism and inequality. I'm quite okay with living in the here and now. The past is gone and it's not coming back, thankfully.

I’m afraid it will soon all be gone…

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Only if your parents were fortunate enough to have been born white, had both parents married to each other and living at home with each other, and of /enough/ means that your mother could stay home and not have to work for a living.

If you were black, or your mother had to work for a living, or was a single parent, then no - it wasn't "wonderful years" for many reasons.

True today also. Life is not fair for most of us. But most work hard and get through it without medication or crutch to get though day.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Only if your parents were fortunate enough to have been born white, had both parents married to each other and living at home with each other, and of /enough/ means that your mother could stay home and not have to work for a living.

If you were black, or your mother had to work for a living, or was a single parent, then no - it wasn't "wonderful years" for many reasons.

[Bay Kid]

Wow, what happened to this post???

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Only if your parents were fortunate enough to have been born white, had both parents married to each other and living at home with each other, and of /enough/ means that your mother could stay home and not have to work for a living.

If you were black, or your mother had to work for a living, or was a single parent, then no - it wasn't "wonderful years" for many reasons.

Hard work does pay off.