[MrFlorida]

It was a good post, until some people turned it as usual.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Wow, what happened to this post???

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

It was a good post, until some people turned it as usual.

Which post? Oh wait, you mean thread....right?

[Michael G.]

Originally Posted by coralway

this post is a word for word paste and copy from some 50’s Facebook group.

Post or thread, I think it just jumped the tracks.

[Two Bills]

In the UK. the 50's sucked, though not as much as the 40's.
The 60's were the start of better things, and every decade after was better than the last.
Life is great now.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

In the UK. the 50's sucked, though not as much as the 40's.
The 60's were the start of better things, and every decade after was better than the last.
Life is great now.

I was in England in late 80s and early 90s in my area it was blast back to 50s and early 60’s in USA. Cheaper New cars still have carburetor’s and manual chokes, 50 and 60s music on lot of radio stations, narrow two lane roads, and families seems to gather. Loved the country side with fields of yellow and red poppies? popping through.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I hate to break bad news to people, but today, right now, in the US of A we have mass quantities of racism, sexism, and much MORE wealth inequity than in the 50s and 60s. I will give some examples although none are needed.
........Inequity......Mostly caused by the lowering of the TAX RATE for the high earners from 1950 to today (look it up) and with small doses of technology, outsourcing, and poor public education.
......Racism........if there were less racism - why are there MORE white supremacists today as opposed to the 1950s. Granted there was a lot of racism in many geographic parts of the US. It has gone underground for a few recent past years, but the LARGE number today of white supremacist organizations proves that it THRIVES today.
......sexism..........Granted sexism was large in the 50s, but it has not gone away despite many gains in that area. The US is one of the only democratic countries to NEVER have a female President or other-titled top leader. Very few US large corporations have female CEOs. Covid has set back many female executives more than males.

I hear it lot better around the world, that why everybody want to come here illegally to get away from prefect world.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Which post? Oh wait, you mean thread....right?

Thanks for the correction Professor.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

I hear it lot better around the world, that why everybody want to come here illegally to get away from prefect world.

Makes you wonder why people here like to bash us. Must be doing something right.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Thanks for the correction Professor.

It’s a never ending task………

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

I was in England in late 80s and early 90s in my area it was blast back to 50s and early 60’s in USA. Cheaper New cars still have carburetor’s and manual chokes, 50 and 60s music on lot of radio stations, narrow two lane roads, and families seems to gather. Loved the country side with fields of yellow and red poppies? popping through.

By the 80's and 90's UK had talking films and some were even in color.
Some houses had refrigerators, and washing machines, and dish washers were on the horizon!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

???

Most of the high school students taking the SAT in 1965 were 17 years old plus or minus a year and so were born around 1948. Most of their parents reached adulthood prior to or during WWII and were therefore born between 1910 and 1930. 1965 was the peak SAT score year reached as scores rose during the 1950s and early 1960s. Thus parents of children raised during the 1950s and early to mid 1960s did an incredible job or raising their children as did society as a whole. The 1950s were wonderful years in which to grow up and obtain a good education for many reasons.

And why and how did those parents in the 1950s and 60s get the wherewithal to do such "an incredible job of raising children as did society as a whole"? They could do that because the US THEN had a wealthy and vibrant middle-class (not now). The main reason that the US middle-class gradually disappeared after about 1970 was changes in Tax brackets and tax % that favored the wealthy and SUCKED the life out of the middle-class. Also, outsourcing to foreign countries helped those countries and made wealthy people wealthier. There are also several other reasons like the destruction of unions, factory farms, oil subsidies, and etc. By about 1990, the middle-class was gone.
.......So, that answers the question as to WHY the 50s and 60s were so good relative to the 70s onward.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

The mothers of some of my close friends also worked. Some mothers had to as they had lost their husbands in the war. Some classmates had mothers who were physicians, nurses, teachers, worked at or managed retail stores and restaurants, you name it. My mother was a teacher but my parents elected to live on less income so she could stay home and take care of my brother and me. We squeaked by. My father worked long hours on commission in retail yet earned little. Several of the children in my class were fatherless, not because they were illegitimate but because their fathers had been killed in combat.

From what I have read illegitimacy has a lot to do with childhood poverty, regardless of race or ethnicity. Children in groups having the highest illegitimacy rates suffer the highest poverty rates. The percentage of children raised in traditional two parent nuclear family units since the 1950s has diminished over the years. IMHO this has created many of the problems we now experience such as higher and higher rates of crime, poor schools and substance abuse.

Reading this post of yours, it makes me curious if you understand the meaning of the word "wonderful." Because what you describe is pretty far from "wonderful years." It sounds like a lot of sadness, tragedy, heartbreak. A dad who is rarely home to be with his family because he has to work "long hours on commission" doesn't sound like a dad who would refer to these as "wonderful years." A kid who has to grow up without a father because he died in the war doesn't sound like a kid who would refer to them as "wonderful years."

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Only if your parents were fortunate enough to have been born white, had both parents married to each other and living at home with each other, and of /enough/ means that your mother could stay home and not have to work for a living.

If you were black, or your mother had to work for a living, or was a single parent, then no - it wasn't "wonderful years" for many reasons.

So, very true.......truthteller!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

And why and how did those parents in the 1950s and 60s get the wherewithal to do such "an incredible job of raising children as did society as a whole"? They could do that because the US THEN had a wealthy and vibrant middle-class (not now). The main reason that the US middle-class gradually disappeared after about 1970 was changes in Tax brackets and tax % that favored the wealthy and SUCKED the life out of the middle-class. Also, outsourcing to foreign countries helped those countries and made wealthy people wealthier. There are also several other reasons like the destruction of unions, factory farms, oil subsidies, and etc. By about 1990, the middle-class was gone.
.......So, that answers the question as to WHY the 50s and 60s were so good relative to the 70s onward.

I've shown you, on multiple occasions, why you are completely WRONG about the tax brackets. Yet you keep posting the same tripe, time and time again...

It does make one wonder why...

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Reading this post of yours, it makes me curious if you understand the meaning of the word "wonderful." Because what you describe is pretty far from "wonderful years." It sounds like a lot of sadness, tragedy, heartbreak. A dad who is rarely home to be with his family because he has to work "long hours on commission" doesn't sound like a dad who would refer to these as "wonderful years." A kid who has to grow up without a father because he died in the war doesn't sound like a kid who would refer to them as "wonderful years."

My father who was born in 1898 had been a grocer during the Great Depression. Customers he knew had no pets were buying dog food to eat themselves as they could not afford more. I assure you, he was happy to have a job back then as many did not. He also had lived through both WWI and WWII. He had contracted and survived the Spanish Flu. I can assure you he was happy during the 1950s. Surprise, surprise! Some people enjoy working. Warren Buffet is 91 and still working, Charlie Munger even older. I am 80 and still working because I enjoy it.

People were optimistic in the 1950s. Life was improving year by year. It is all relative. The Great Depression and WWII were in the past. Life was good and getting better. Of course there was not much money around for most folks but people as a whole were happier than they seem to be today which feels pretty dismal to most folks I know. People today are depressed by lack of personal safety, high crime rates, poor schools. Most see things are getting worse by the day. In the 1950s people felt things were getting better by the day - and they were!

The 1950s: Happy Days [ushistory.org]