[KeepingItReal]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Anybody that has a TV ID card is required to give their date of birth, therefore TV would have an up to the minute head count of those under 55 vs those 55 and over.

Under the Department of Housing and Urban Development 24 CFR Part 100 Implemention of the Housing for Older Persons Act of 1995; Final Rule

Section 100.307

Article (a) In order for a housing facility or community to qualify as housing for persons 55 years of age or older, it must be able to produce verification of compliance with 100.305 through reliable surveys and affidavits.

The Villages can't make up their own rules on this law.

This document doesn't really appear to be applicable to the Villages..

Surely by now we all know there are ways around most anything...

www.hud.gov/offices/.../hopa_final.pdf
305;
There continues to be confusion
concerning what is often referred to as
the 80/20 split. HOPA states that the
minimum standard to obtain housing for
persons who are 55 years of age or older
status is that ‘‘at least 80%’’ of the
occupied units be occupied by persons
55 years or older. There is no
requirement that the remaining 20% of
the occupied units be occupied by
persons under the age of 55, nor is there
a requirement that those units be used
only for persons where at least one
member of the household is 55 years of
age or older. Communities may decline
to permit any persons under the age of
55, may require that 100% of the units
have at least one occupant who is 55
years of age or older, may permit up to
20% of the occupied units to be
occupied by persons who are younger
than 55 years of age, or set whatever
requirements they wish, as long as ‘‘at
least 80%’’ of the occupied units are
occupied by one person 55 years of age
or older, and so long as such
requirements are not inconsistent with
the overall intent to be housing for older
persons.

[HMLRHT1]

I have two friends who are in their mid to late 30's and they own their CYV and rent it out. But they lived in it with no issues for over a year.

[Bonny]

We bought a house & moved here in 2000. I was 48, hubby was 49. You can live here as long as you are 19 and up. I know several people in their 30's and own a house here.

[Barefoot]

Based on comments from a senior Villages employee, and agreeing with Justjim. ... In an Adult Community, there is a 80/20 age rule with 20% under the age of 55 permissible. No person under 19 years of age is permitted for more than a month. TV is not even close to the 20% under age 55.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

Do not think there are many if any rule(s) that cannot be over ridden or ignored by the developer. Most rules are that they can be enforced but are not required to be enforced...Not enforcing a rule is the same as ignoring it.

Are you saying the developer is ignoring the 80/20 law?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Bonny

We bought a house & moved here in 2000. I was 48, hubby was 49. You can live here as long as you are 19 and up. I know several people in their 30's and own a house here.

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Based on comments from a senior Villages employee, and agreeing with Justjim. ... In an Adult Community, there is a 80/20 age rule with 20% under the age of 55 permissible. No person under 19 years of age is permitted for more than a month. TV is not even close to the 20% under age 55.

There is nothing more to be added, this is it!

[KeepingItReal]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Are you saying the developer is ignoring the 80/20 law?

Just rules in general can be enforced but are not required to be enforced and since there are no numbers available how would anyone know? (Per enforcement on deed restrictions the developer has the option to enforce rules but is not required to do so) Possibly a freedom of information request could be made but this issue is not an issue for me. Personally I am for all the younger people possible after the children are grown. Can only help property values and improve other amenities. No reason to exclude anyone based on their age alone.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

Just rules in general and since there are no numbers available how would anyone know? Possibly a freedom of information request could be made but this issue is not an issue for me. Personally I am for all the younger people possible after the children are grown. No reason to exclude anyone based on their age.

Under the law I quoted above, paragraph (i) states "A summary of occupancy surveys shall be available for inspection upon reasonable notice and request by any person. (Approved by the Office of Management and Budget under control number 2529-0046)".

It should not take a freedom of information request to obtain this information.

[KeepingItReal]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Under the law I quoted above, paragraph (i) states "A summary of occupancy surveys shall be available for inspection upon reasonable notice and request by any person. (Approved by the Office of Management and Budget under control number 2529-0046)".

It should not take a freedom of information request to obtain this information.

Please re-read this from my statement.....Possibly a freedom of information request could be made but this issue is not an issue for me. Personally I am for all the younger people possible after the children are grown. Can only help property values and other amenities.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by crummybuttons

I was always under the impression you had to be 55 to live here. I also know just one has to be 55. My question is can the villages sell or rent homes in the villages to anyone under 40? Solve the bet here please.
Thanks

crummybuttons - perhaps you would find a good read thru the wiki website re the villages enlightening - but take it for what it is, please....it is wikipedia, afterall.
The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
pay particular attention to footnote #10 and the answers provided there

[champion6]

Originally Posted by crummybuttons

I was always under the impression you had to be 55 to live here. I also know just one has to be 55. My question is can the villages sell or rent homes in the villages to anyone under 40? Solve the bet here please.

One thing I'm sure of... the answers required to solve your bet will not be found on TOTV

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

crummybuttons - perhaps you would find a good read thru the wiki website re the villages enlightening - but take it for what it is, please....it is wikipedia, afterall.
The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
pay particular attention to footnote #10 and the answers provided there

Here it is.

http://www.hud.gov/offices/fheo/library/hopa95.pdf

And I was so happy thinking that this was an over 55 community. I like my grown up peers. Not that I don't like younger people, but I could have moved anywhere and had a mix.

There is a general flavor that I love about folks who have lived for at least 55 years.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by billethkid

the age rule does not apply to resale or rental properties.....and that's the good news!!

btk

I am pretty sure that the deed restriction applies to all ownership with the exception of the 80/20 exception. The muddy area seems to be "rentals".

Actually, after further reading, the 55+ rules apply to occupancy not ownership, so the rentals still have to comply. If the occupants are under 55, then they must fall into the 20% bracket and in our community they cannot have children under 19.

[TraceyMooreRN]

I am 39, husband is 49--second home (new construction) bought this year-- First home also brand new purchased in 2007 ...do the math
Moved here fulltime June 2012--prior to that--used our villa as rental.

You don't have to be 55 to live here. The issue is with the children ...which I don't mind. My kids are in college (one just graduated). So- life is good. I love it here. Some people ask "Why do YOU want to live here with all these old people"? I just smile and say "Wouldn't you have loved to enjoy this lifestyle in your 30s"?

Again the 80/20 split doesn't mandate 20% of "Young Folks" have to join in this lifestyle.

As far as kids--I have a friend who lives here (they are in there 60s, have a child with special needs residing with them--under 19) ...No issues.

Why does it bother anyone what others do? Too many community driving around without all the knowledge. I actually had a lady tell me at the Savannah Pool--"this pool is for residents". I told her "I am a resident". She grumbled--and soon the Rec Dept was inquiring for my id. Really? I should have just told her I married a really old guy...she probably would have left me alone!

So--enjoy your neighbors. You might have more in common than you think. I have made lots of best friends--20-40 years older than me! I enjoy their company and I think I have found home forever!!!!

[jbdlfan]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Here it is.

http://www.hud.gov/offices/fheo/library/hopa95.pdf

And I was so happy thinking that this was an over 55 community. I like my grown up peers. Not that I don't like younger people, but I could have moved anywhere and had a mix.

There is a general flavor that I love about folks who have lived for at least 55 years.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Grown up peers???? Dog poop, speeding golf carts, bikes on cart paths, walkers on cart paths, stop signs.......I have yet to meet a grown up here.....