[retiredguy123]

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[Velvet]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

You are wrong. I only pay taxes on the property that I own, which is the property inside the property line as defined by the property survey. The property survey states that the property outside of the property line is a right of way, not an easement. If I owned property outside of the property line, and they wanted to widen the road, they would need to buy that property from me. You said the property to the street was an easement, but the official survey clearly states that it is a "right of way", not an easement. Property ownership is defined by a property line, not by a right of way or an easement.

According to Florida law (in general);

Rights-of-way are for travel purposes across the land, such as a driveway or a walkway. They do not allow you to use the land for any other reasons. (And also you need to know who has the right of way, it is not the general public).
The law offices of Justin McMurray

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

Look into motion activated lawn sprinklers, the dog will probably get the idea, even if the neighbors do not.

Perfect, nothing really mean that would permanently harm the pet (who has no idea he should not allow himself/herself to be urged into the neighbor's yard), and nothing to start a dangerous
"war" of escalating threats that end in someone seriously injured or even dead ! I agree it's sad that it's come to the this point so often in the V's. In our neighborhood we have several "dog walkers" (people who walk as many a 6 dogs, on leashes, at once) who come 4, 5, 6 blocks then stand in the street as they urge the dogs to "go... on someone's yard". There's just no answer for those with that much disrespect. The "sprinklers" might just work.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

Perfect, nothing really mean that would permanently harm the pet (who has no idea he should not allow himself/herself to be urged into the neighbor's yard), and nothing to start a dangerous
"war" of escalating threats that end in someone seriously injured or even dead ! I agree it's sad that it's come to the this point so often in the V's. In our neighborhood we have several "dog walkers" (people who walk as many a 6 dogs, on leashes, at once) who come 4, 5, 6 blocks then stand in the street as they urge the dogs to "go... on someone's yard". There's just no answer for those with that much disrespect. The "sprinklers" might just work.

Pairadocs, I'm interested to know where this happens. It boggles my mind.
Is it a newer area south of 44, or just north, like Pinellas?
We've lived in Tamarind Grove sine 2012 and have almost never had a problem with people not picking up after their dogs. Twice, but we tracked it down to a visitor.
People on TOTV keep bringing this up, though, so I'm curious to know where it is happening.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by Hifred

Is there legal recourse to this issue.... We have owned our house since 2019 and have had wonderful neighbors. In January of this year, after a neighbor behind us passed, his house sold. The new neighbors continually let their dog out to come poop in my yard. I have respectfully asked them to keep the dog in their yard but it isn't happening. I have walked in dog poop more times than I can count and am tired of it. I have cameras in the back of my house so I have video. I am curious if there is anything that can be done? They have the whole front of their house and they could take the dog out to the front of their house but they don't. It is not just the dog who is in my yard they come in my yard as well when they let the dog out. BTW their property is not in deed compliance but I have never filed a complaint because I have always gotten along well with my neighbors but my patience is wearing thin. Any thoughts?

This sounds like the start of a bad movie. Water spraying the dog, shoveling bagging and moving poop, pepper spraying the dog, calling the DPP (Dog Poop Police). Seems like that is a sure way to escalate the issue.

Are you the only neighbor having an issue with this neighbor? It's only been a month since he moved in. Any chance of resolution? Perhaps the initial confrontation and their moving in stress created a barrier. Have you/the neighbors welcomed the new neighbor. You mentioned that their property is not in deed compliance and it sounds like you are blaming them for something that they bought into.

Before this goes too far, try putting yourself in their shoes. Perhaps they came from a totally different environment where animal control was not an issue. If possible, help them adapt.

Is a start over an option?

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

This sounds like the start of a bad movie. Water spraying the dog, shoveling bagging and moving poop, pepper spraying the dog, calling the DPP (Dog Poop Police). Seems like that is a sure way to escalate the issue.

Are you the only neighbor having an issue with this neighbor? It's only been a month since he moved in. Any chance of resolution? Perhaps the initial confrontation and their moving in stress created a barrier. Have you/the neighbors welcomed the new neighbor. You mentioned that their property is not in deed compliance and it sounds like you are blaming them for something that they bought into.

Before this goes too far, try putting yourself in their shoes. Perhaps they came from a totally different environment where animal control was not an issue. If possible, help them adapt.

Is a start over an option?

There is absolutely no excuse for sending your dog outside to do its business in somebody else's yard. None. Forget where they came from. It's a given that you don't trespass on another person's property for any reason.
OP might be the only one having an issue with this neighbor simply because he/she is the one directly behind the people who are letting their dog out loose.
"Help them adapt" my dog tush. They've already tried.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

How did we get from dog poop to water meter placement?

You may need to start from the beginning. Good luck!

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

You are wrong. I only pay taxes on the property that I own, which is the property inside the property line as defined by the property survey. The property survey states that the property outside of the property line is a right of way, not an easement. If I owned property outside of the property line, and they wanted to widen the road, they would need to buy that property from me. You said the property to the street was an easement, but the official survey clearly states that it is a "right of way", not an easement. Property ownership is defined by a property line, not by a right of way or an easement.

You misunderstand. There is an area that shows right of way that has grantee equipment either over it, like phone lines or power lines,or below ground, like phone or power lines, water lines sewer, etc. The land/yard is yours, but as part of the development of the community a grantee has equipment either over, under, or sitting in your yard that they may need to access for repair or maintenance. Where the lines,cables, pipes run is right of way. Where the light post, telephone post, street sign, power box or cable box physically sit is easement.
The area labeled right of way likely has grantee equipment buryed below. You own the lawn and the driveway right to the sidewalk or curb/street.
From a property perspective, you own more than you thought.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

You misunderstand. There is an area that shows right of way that has grantee equipment either over it, like phone lines or power lines,or below ground, like phone or power lines, water lines sewer, etc. The land/yard is yours, but as part of the development of the community a grantee has equipment either over, under, or sitting in your yard that they may need to access for repair or maintenance. Where the lines,cables, pipes run is right of way. Where the light post, telephone post, street sign, power box or cable box physically sit is easement.
The area labeled right of way likely has grantee equipment buryed below. You own the lawn and the driveway right to the sidewalk or curb/street.
From a property perspective, you own more than you thought.

I didn't misunderstand anything. My property line is located 7 feet from the edge of the street pavement. I own the land from that line to the back of my property, nothing more. From the front lot line to the street is public property with a right of way. I think you misunderstood.

[Sully2023]

Originally Posted by CarlR33

You said you told them to keep the dog in their yard but did you ask about the poop being left behind? If you already opened up lines of communication then maybe offer to buy the first box of poop bags when you deliver the first bag of poop to them. If that fails bag up the poop and throw it on their door step as your explanation would be you do not want to stink up your trash can and garage (assuming that is where you keep the can?). Sad in this day that something as simple as a neighbor not listening to reasoning can start a neighbor war.

I got a crazy idea -put up a sign that states: I hired a company to pick up your dog’s mess - I’ll send you the monthly bill.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Pairadocs, I'm interested to know where this happens. It boggles my mind.
Is it a newer area south of 44, or just north, like Pinellas?
We've lived in Tamarind Grove sine 2012 and have almost never had a problem with people not picking up after their dogs. Twice, but we tracked it down to a visitor.
People on TOTV keep bringing this up, though, so I'm curious to know where it is happening.

For us it wa the same with more than 20 plus dogs per day using our corner lawn. So that would be Mallory, Pennacamp, Fernandina, Hemingway.

It’s not just about picking up it’s the 10-20 dogs who stop on their way out on their walk and then stop again on the return urinating on other peoples yard. Plus lawn guys quit because of the dog park effect of those who choose to just walk away. And yes we had 6 cameras to capture every event. With most saying it’s an easement not your lawn …Those four houses were the last time we bought a corner lot in TV.

It happen more than you think in every neighborhood, you just don’t notice

[rherb55]

Originally Posted by Hifred

Is there legal recourse to this issue.... We have owned our house since 2019 and have had wonderful neighbors. In January of this year, after a neighbor behind us passed, his house sold. The new neighbors continually let their dog out to come poop in my yard. I have respectfully asked them to keep the dog in their yard but it isn't happening. I have walked in dog poop more times than I can count and am tired of it. I have cameras in the back of my house so I have video. I am curious if there is anything that can be done? They have the whole front of their house and they could take the dog out to the front of their house but they don't. It is not just the dog who is in my yard they come in my yard as well when they let the dog out. BTW their property is not in deed compliance but I have never filed a complaint because I have always gotten along well with my neighbors but my patience is wearing thin. Any thoughts?

You shouldn’t have to step in 💩 on your own property…. So if they’re not picking it up, I would scoop it up & bring it back to them and if that doesn’t work call the Sheriff. They are suppose to be on a leash…..
Good luck with dealing with IGNORANCE.

[Velvet]

The new neighbors I mentioned on a previous thread are now at Mallory for several months now. They used to just let their two dogs out and (they are previous Villagers) so people got to know them not by their name but as …. We have many social events here, from driveway parties to neighbors taking you to places to home invitations etc etc. These people were invited nowhere by anyone. No one bothered to even find out their names. Now it is a few months later and the change is quite amazing. The two dogs stay on their veranda, they still bark a bit much but even that is improving. And now the couple is included in the community. I am glad for them because I have the best, most helpful, friendliest and giving neighbors (nearly every one of them has a dog) a person could want. And I am glad that the new people are part of the community now too.

It is possible to change behavior, it may take a concentrated effort.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star

The sprinkler idea sounds good to me.

Depends on the dog, Labs love playing in a sprinkler.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Sully2023

I got a crazy idea -put up a sign that states: I hired a company to pick up your dog’s mess - I’ll send you the monthly bill.

Actually there was a,post from a new resident who is handicapped, chair bound, and pays a company to pick up in the back of CYV of their dogs, and the deposit from other people in the front. She was so bewildered as to why anyone would allow their dog in anyone yard.