[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by thevillages2013

Well first it was Nike. Threw away or gave to charity all all my Nike stuff including a golf bag and would never buy anything with a swoosh on it again. Now Adidas is running a commercial pushing transgender women in sports.
Pretty soon I will be barefoot

9 pages on this subject already? A lot of these high emotion threads seem (to me) to be saying......things WERE not this way in my day ..... things have changed .......and I resent these changes.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

Didn’t know that about Adidas, thanks for that information! Thanks to our legal system & society. I never wore a Nike shoe only because Colin Kaepernick is there non American kneeling flag & military hater. Can’t believe we allow Nike into our country. As a matter of fact anything China made & yea I know 90% of everything we buy is made in China. Maybe that’s why China is way ahead of the U.S.

Well, Nike IS an American Company... Founded by Phil Knight, in the 70's... So there's that...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

9 pages on this subject already? A lot of these high emotion threads seem (to me) to be saying......things WERE not this way in my day ..... things have changed .......and I resent these changes.

How about you respond to what people are ACTUALLY saying? I know, novel concept...

[Chiefhyde]

Originally Posted by Garywt

I have seen the commercial, it is not just transgender but covers all women. I just don’t agree that former men should be able to compete against women no matter what they wear.

TOTALLY AGREE - it certainly is not fair at all to women sports

If you were born as a male and now decide you are really a women - fine - but it is beginning to look like some people are using this to gain an advantage . Same thing if a man transitions to a women and goes to jail - he should be in a male prison

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

No reason my dollars should support a company that treat women so unfairly.

Men should not be able to compete against women in a womens sport.

I agree with the 2nd sentence. But, I also realize that we are NOT talking about a SIMPLE black and white issue here. Times have changed and GENDER is now much more fluid than in ....say 1950. There are more medical treatments that can alter the original testosterone production of a young male .......to the point of being compliant with the rules of say......the Olympics Committee. I imagine that it must be very complex and put a large and newer burden on Sports Officials to make the determination of GENDER. And the end result/determination will NEVER PLEASE everyone!
......... Since gender fluidity has changed in our lifetimes, imagine (if you will) the future......like in 2100........Gender could mean something very different. Humans may have the capability to change GENDER every 2 years if they desire. Or maybe they could wake up in the morning and say, "today I think I feel like a boy". So, they go into a shower-like area and turn a dial to.......boy. Sounds like a good plot for a science fiction book?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by LAFwUs

..and yet is being celebrated as being the "first black woman" on the supreme court.
oh, the irony.

I disagree.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I agree with the 2nd sentence. But, I also realize that we are NOT talking about a SIMPLE black and white issue here. Times have changed and GENDER is now much more fluid than in ....say 1950. There are more medical treatments that can alter the original testosterone production of a young male .......to the point of being compliant with the rules of say......the Olympics Committee. I imagine that it must be very complex and put a large and newer burden on Sports Officials to make the determination of GENDER. And the end result/determination will NEVER PLEASE everyone!
......... Since gender fluidity has changed in our lifetimes, imagine (if you will) the future......like in 2100........Gender could mean something very different. Humans may have the capability to change GENDER every 2 years if they desire. Or maybe they could wake up in the morning and say, "today I think I feel like a boy". So, they go into a shower-like area and turn a dial to.......boy. Sounds like a good plot for a science fiction book?

Sorry do not believe in gender fluidity if that is even a real word.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Petersweeney

Nike likes to get good social credit scores for sole purpose of stock value on Wall Street…race, gender….”equity” It’s all projection….they do something and accuse you of doing it…….you think they give a crap about humans….they moved their factories from China to other slave labor countries for profit….90% of all “American “ companies “just “ do it…… and we all love shopping at Walmart …. This is the middle of the slippery slope of global corporate domination…. Equity is also a distraction that is hiding the real quest of taking away personal freedoms….speech , privacy and the nuclear family unit…..China did this - Russia is almost there and we are next….

I think that the "nuclear family unit" is a long way from being destroyed. As of today, gender fluidity applies to only a tiny % of people.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Chiefhyde

TOTALLY AGREE - it certainly is not fair at all to women sports

If you were born as a male and now decide you are really a women - fine - but it is beginning to look like some people are using this to gain an advantage . Same thing if a man transitions to a women and goes to jail - he should be in a male prison

Why? What could possibly go wrong if they're put in a female prison? [/sarcasm]

Inmates pregnant at all-women prison after transgender prisoners allowed in | WPMI

[Caymus]

Compromise.... I own some Nike stock but wear New Balance. Nike has a very dedicated customer base.

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[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I agree with the 2nd sentence. But, I also realize that we are NOT talking about a SIMPLE black and white issue here. Times have changed and GENDER is now much more fluid than in ....say 1950. There are more medical treatments that can alter the original testosterone production of a young male .......to the point of being compliant with the rules of say......the Olympics Committee. I imagine that it must be very complex and put a large and newer burden on Sports Officials to make the determination of GENDER. And the end result/determination will NEVER PLEASE everyone!
......... Since gender fluidity has changed in our lifetimes, imagine (if you will) the future......like in 2100........Gender could mean something very different. Humans may have the capability to change GENDER every 2 years if they desire. Or maybe they could wake up in the morning and say, "today I think I feel like a boy". So, they go into a shower-like area and turn a dial to.......boy. Sounds like a good plot for a science fiction book?

Altering testosterone levels in an adult has ZERO effect on the physiological changes that have already occurred if the transition occurs after puberty...

And that is what is happening...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by John Mayes

The pay equity in professional sports is simply economic. When women’s sports generate the revenue that men’s sports do, women will get paid the same as men.

It's much more than that. Billy Gene King in tennis proved that. As a society moves forward it CONFERS THE BLESSING of freedom onto its 2nd class citizens.........because of race or because of being women. At this point in history, the US should move FORWARD toward equal pay for women in sports and everywhere. Or we could go "Handmaiden's Tale" back to burkas and women not being allowed to drive cars. That is unlikely but, it is done now in Afghanistan and the US has some responsibility for that pathetic development. GENDER issues are important issues worldwide!
.........It would be nice if mothers and female power put a stop to autocracy in Russia soon!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by thevillages2013

When Adidas runs a commercial repeatedly about transgender women in sports it goes toward normalizing it which is wrong. You as a woman should be against a man competing in women’s sports.

The "which is wrong" part is judgmental. It is a judgment based on ideas from the 1950s. The world has moved on to more GENDER FLUIDITY. Our own medical expert has explained all of this in a prior post.

[DrBrutyle109]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I don't think men playing mens' sports should be allowed to earn more than women in womens' sports. I don't think a man OR a woman should earn more in a professional sport than a teacher, or a nurse, or a truck driver. It won't stop me from buying whatever the heck I want to buy.

Men make more because sponsors are willing to pay more. A lot of woman’s sports don’t draw the TV revenue. That’s not anyones fault. As far as a teacher needs to make more……where would the money come from. Maybe they can wear clothes with sponsors on them. Your comparison is just off base

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

One day when you have some time read a book about economics or even learn something about how capitalism works.

And what is stopping you from buying whatever you desire.

Capitalism has plenty of flaws. It just beats out all the other systems.