[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by tsmall22204

What a low life response. There is no room here for your politics.

To whom are you responding?

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by midiwiz

not sure why it matters, but if it makes you feel important...... I'm sure Nike doesn't even know you left.

But I care as it is the right thing to do.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by tsmall22204

What a low life response. There is no room here for your politics.

Which response? Are you aware of reply with a quote?

[Jeffery M]

Originally Posted by thevillages2013

Well first it was Nike. Threw away or gave to charity all all my Nike stuff including a golf bag and would never buy anything with a swoosh on it again. Now Adidas is running a commercial pushing transgender women in sports.
Pretty soon I will be barefoot

Throwing away perfectly good items that you bought doesn't accomplish anything. Refusing to purchase new items does. Wearing items that I bought from a company doesn't mean I support their ideals. But not buying new items is what will hurt them the most except selling their stock, if you happen to own some. At this point I don't think these woke corporations understand or care about how getting involved in political agendas that can affect sales. It is best for most businesses to remain neutral. I wouldn't go to Nike as a source of morality or politics.

[BlackhawksFan]

Originally Posted by biker1

Bobby Riggs, in his prime, was a very good tennis player. I believe he was ranked number 1 in the world at one point and won several grand slam events. He played, and lost to, Billie Jean King when he was in his mid 50s and she was in her prime. If he was a transgender woman in his prime he would have dominated women's tennis. He was a showman who had a big mouth.

I haven't seen all the posts but I don't believe anyone has mentioned Renee Richards aka Richard Raskin a transgender women who played and coached professional tennis. She famously sued to play in U.S.Open.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

So what do you do when you find out that Sally, that nice Lady across the pickleball net from you is really Salvatore.

If you are asking me, same as before, friendly and couteous while we are playing, cry like a baby when she (her preferred form of address) kicks my butt.

[OhioBuckeye]

Thank you, but don’t believe it!

[Zenmama18]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Not that it matters to the discussion, but in many cases, there is NO surgical alteration... Lia Thomas has not had any surgery...

Ranked 460 something as a male swimmer just over a year ago... Now ranked #1 as a woman... Sure...Let's go with that...

Hope all that support this have a daughter/granddaughter who loses out on a scholarship or place on the Olympic team because of this... (See how that works both ways?)

How about if your daughter/granddaughter loses out on a rowing scholarship to Laurie Laughlin's daughter? Or loses a gymnastics scholarship to the girlfriend of a football recruit? The point is that a talented athlete will have other choices for scholarships.

[OhioBuckeye]

Sorry to pop your bubble but Nike shoes are made in China, Indonesia & Vietnam. China is the leading Manufacturer. China manufactures 36% of the title world wide. The other 2 countries make for the rest of the world.

[macawlaw]

I have a daughter who had a D1 volleyball full ride. I wondered how this issue would/could potentially affect her. So, I went looking for statistics. I have found a lot of opinion, but very few facts.

Here are a few facts. Multiple sources agree that .6% to .7% of American adults identify as transgender. This is fewer than 2 million American adults. Not that many.

Another fact: only 7% of high school athletes play a varsity sport in college. Less than 2% will play at D1 schools. Scholarship Stats.com states that it's 55:1 for men and 57:1 for women who play D1 after high school.

Looking at the factual statistics, very few trans individuals would make it to the D1 level.

This is a small number, and the very elite numbers are even smaller.

Lia, the trans swimmer, started a fire storm. I also saw a story about Chelsea Mitchell, a Connecticut high school runner.

Having watched volleyball for years and observing the differences between men and women and how they play, I know the physical advantage that men who have gone through puberty have over women in the sport.

What I did not know was what happens when a man transitions. What do the drugs do to him? How many years does one have to be on them in order to compete as a woman? Who makes these decisions? I wanted specifics: What does lack of testosterone do as far as strength, jumping ability, times, etc.?

I don't know because I could not find the statistics. There is a severe lack of information on these issues. How do we know what is fair when there is nothing but feelings and emotions to make a decision?

Lia won the national title, but Katie Ledecky still holds the world record. Mitchell lost to two trans girls in 2021, but beat both of them in 2020. Do these facts make a difference?

Title IX did so much for women. The argument now is that transgender women will ruin it for women such as my daughter. Maybe it will. Maybe it won't. Until hard evidence is available, opinions will prevail.

[OhioBuckeye]

DMintzer, China, Indonesia & Vietnam make Nike shoes, China is the leading manufacturer. China manufactures 36% of the total world wide. Indonesia & Vietnam do the rest. I never saw the U.S. even mentioned. I did my homework!

[OhioBuckeye]

Love your comment, I love the way you put it, LOL!

[asianthree]

More importantly those who are so against, what would you do if your
CHILDREN or GRANDCHILDREN decided to make this life changing Decision.

Would you cope, would you still love them, would you walk away and never have anything to do with them?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

Thank you, but don’t believe it!

What is "it"?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by blueash

All you experts in a man is a man and a woman is a woman... What is a person with XXY chromosomes? What is a person with XO? What is a person with XYY? What is a person with ovotestes? What is a person who has cliteromegaly that mimics in all respects a small phallus? What is a person whose brain tells them beyond any shadow of a doubt they are a woman? You experts are so certain in your ignorance and intolerance. The genders are not as simple as you wish or your church may have taught you. It is very complex and the exceptions to your wrongheaded wisdom prove the fallacy of your beliefs.

Of course you would support forcing teachers not to teach the truth about gender identity because telling children the truth would threaten your so tightly held beliefs. There is every color of the rainbow in human expression and experience of sexuality and gender.

And any corporation that understands how the emerging picture of the complexity of gender must be boycotted. Cancel culture I believe is the term the thought police use on TV

Well, I'm sure you already know the answers to your own questions----XXY is a Kleinfelter male, XO is Turner's syndrome and XYY is Jacob's syndrome. The rest of your list is developmental in utero, not chromosomal except "What is a person whose brain tells them beyond any shadow of a doubt they are a woman? ", to which you would not like my answer.

That being said I agree with you, why should anyone care which demographic a company chooses to target market? I have much more tolerance for a company that is trying to sell their product than one that is spending shareholder money to foray into politics to overturn or block laws (eg: Disney)