[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

And I don't think that is an accident.

Our intelligence services have been telling us for years, that Russian trolls are bombarding all our social media from both sides, intentionally stoking arguments and spreading conspiracies.

Some people relate to and accept one set, others accept the other side, and a fight breaks out.

Once upon a time we fought over polices over a beer. Now we fight about jewish space lasers online.

H....A....Y...........M....A......N....... MY Jewish Space Laser can kick your Laser's butt.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

If anyone knows propaganda, it's you! You post it daily...

Sounds like a little 3rd-grade child's statement, "No, YOU do too!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

So you're for forced sterilization? And you like Wagner... I'm sensing a trend...

But as much as I'd like to have a "boys day out" with you, please keep my junk out of the conversation...

To paraphrase Will Smith, "Keep my Junk Outta' your M*****-F****** Mouth!"

I was using EXAGGERATION to prove my point, which apparently I need to SPELL out. Biologists say that each animal species in a given location has a "HOLDING CAPACITY" (look it up)! My point is that humans in the US are above their HOLDING CAPACITY (probably by about 70 million people). I am NOT suggesting that 70 million people should "drink spiked Kool-aide" or march to the Ocean like Lemmings.
........Someone famous once wrote that WARS and PESTULANCE control the human population (when they exceed their holding capacity).
.........Now, just look at the recent world news. We HAVE (some think that it is over, past tense ...had) a worldwide Pandemic going on now......look at Shanghai, China (well past its holding capacity)! Now look at the WAR situation......many Military experts believe that we have already BEGUN WW3
.........Dictatorships reach out greedily for more resources and POWER, never satisfied!
..........I am not speaking about what IS (because what is ....is bad) I am idealistically speaking to our better angels about what COULD be! So, go ahead, call me a DREAMER......an outlier, a schemer.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Laker14

There are two types of propaganda, the stuff you think is fact because it agrees with the propaganda you've decided is factual, and the stuff you recognize as propaganda, because it disagrees with what you believed before you heard it.
Unfortunately, all "news" falls into one of those two categories.
Or, put another way, freedom of the press means you get to choose which flavor of Kool-Aid you get to drink.

Well put!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

Just because print news doesn’t agree with your opinion doesn’t mean it’s Fake News.
Deja Vu I remember the Supreme Court ruling during Watergate. They aren’t Facebook.

Facebook would be fine with some guard rails. and without Zuckerdingaling, who is a Dictator. The original concept was good, but it has the power to do "bad" things also.

[jimjamuser]

Propaganda originating from overseas trolls has branded the NYT as "fake news" through repetition and repetition by disgraced US leaders - such that some of the confused, chaos-loving unwashed Americans also echo it!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by jdulej

Fair enough. I've been sent to the woodshed enough to be gun shy myself. What would be interesting though, if someone cares to give it a go, would be two news articles covering the same event. One from the times, one from a source considered to be of the opposite leaning but also a mainstream source of news. Then call out the skewed (left or right) parts from each source.
This supports my belief that you cannot get a true or fair picture of the "truth" without considering multiple sources.

TRUTH is harder to determine today than it was before social media. Facebook software is designed to keep each user on for as long as possible. They do this with software that LEADS them 1st to where the user WANTS to go - and THEN leads them down a rabbit hole to dark misinformation, propaganda, and conspiracy theory.
........Personally I HATE Zuckerdork and would NEVER be on Facebook!

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I was using EXAGGERATION to prove my point, which apparently I need to SPELL out. Biologists say that each animal species in a given location has a "HOLDING CAPACITY" (look it up)! My point is that humans in the US are above their HOLDING CAPACITY (probably by about 70 million people). I am NOT suggesting that 70 million people should "drink spiked Kool-aide" or march to the Ocean like Lemmings.
........Someone famous once wrote that WARS and PESTULANCE control the human population (when they exceed their holding capacity).
.........Now, just look at the recent world news. We HAVE (some think that it is over, past tense ...had) a worldwide Pandemic going on now......look at Shanghai, China (well past its holding capacity)! Now look at the WAR situation......many Military experts believe that we have already BEGUN WW3
.........Dictatorships reach out greedily for more resources and POWER, never satisfied!
..........I am not speaking about what IS (because what is ....is bad) I am idealistically speaking to our better angels about what COULD be! So, go ahead, call me a DREAMER......an outlier, a schemer.

Here is a chart of world population over the past few thousand years. Prior to date at the start of this chart it is pretty much flat line.

Agriculture started around 10,000 years ago.

If you look at the chart, from 10,000 BCE to 8,000 BCE the population growth was essentially zero - very little. Around 8,000 BCE (I think) agriculture started and you can see a slight flow occurring. After that I think the chart is self explanatory.

From what I have read that is because that is the level of population the world could sustain with only hunter/gatherers. Once agriculture started, there is evidence that agriculture allow our brains to grow (more calories, it is needs more as it got bigger) and allow for people to start living longer and reproducing. More of the spawn survived, since they had more food - from there it is a normal exponential growth curve. With the past couple hundred years on the liftoff portion.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Sounds like a little 3rd-grade child's statement, "No, YOU do too!

Sorry, but you're talking about your own rants again (just trying to live up to your expectations...)

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I was using EXAGGERATION to prove my point, which apparently I need to SPELL out. Biologists say that each animal species in a given location has a "HOLDING CAPACITY" (look it up)! My point is that humans in the US are above their HOLDING CAPACITY (probably by about 70 million people). I am NOT suggesting that 70 million people should "drink spiked Kool-aide" or march to the Ocean like Lemmings.
........Someone famous once wrote that WARS and PESTULANCE control the human population (when they exceed their holding capacity).
.........Now, just look at the recent world news. We HAVE (some think that it is over, past tense ...had) a worldwide Pandemic going on now......look at Shanghai, China (well past its holding capacity)! Now look at the WAR situation......many Military experts believe that we have already BEGUN WW3
.........Dictatorships reach out greedily for more resources and POWER, never satisfied!
..........I am not speaking about what IS (because what is ....is bad) I am idealistically speaking to our better angels about what COULD be! So, go ahead, call me a DREAMER......an outlier, a schemer.

I don't need you to SPELL out anything. You can't SPELL!

To the rest of your rant, seek help...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I don't need you to SPELL out anything. You can't SPELL!

To the rest of your rant, seek help...

There is NO denying that we (the world) are currently embroiled in a toxic stew of war, pestilence, and Global Warming. At a minimum, I am being helpful by pointing this out and how it affects everyone here locally. Many are using this forum to restrict ideas and pretend that things are just "peachy".

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

There is NO denying that we (the world) are currently embroiled in a toxic stew of war, pestilence, and Global Warming. At a minimum, I am being helpful by pointing this out and how it affects everyone here locally. Many are using this forum to restrict ideas and pretend that things are just "peachy".

You do know that the earth has experienced many episodes of global warming I trust.

And mankind has had lots of wars in its history. And do not even get me started on the pestilence.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

There is NO denying that we (the world) are currently embroiled in a toxic stew of war, pestilence, and Global Warming. At a minimum, I am being helpful by pointing this out and how it affects everyone here locally. Many are using this forum to restrict ideas and pretend that things are just "peachy".

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Which definition would you prefer, Merriam-Webster's or the Code of Federal Regulations (1973)?

Woke? It would seem you don't know the meaning of that word either.

You quote government regulations from 1973. I rest my case. Also I know what woke means and you just may fit that definition

[thevillages2013]

OMG I can’t believe this thread is still alive! Good behavior all! ( I guess)