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asianthree 04-05-2023 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemalloy (Post 2204543)
Finding a handicap spot open in Fla. is like looking for ice in the Sahara. We occasionally go to McGrady's. The entrance is far from the parking lot for those with limited walking ability. Parking on the grass made the trip much shorter. Some day I hope the hyenas get to know what that's like.

Sorry, but your issues are the same for many in a retirement community. If you have someone with you the best walker can drop off.

Yesterday at lap lanes, I parked next to a WW2 guy getting out of his cart. He could barely walk, but was heading in to swim. He didn’t park next to the sidewalk or entry, but in a non handicap spot.

I said take your time, I will get a lane for you. I took the closest lane, sat down and waited. I waited 11 minutes before his smiling face arrived at the lane. I thanked him for his service to our country, and gave him my lane. Saving lanes is not allowed, but I could give up my lane and it was an honor.

After he finished I took the lane, yep I had to wait, but his smile when he left and a thank you for being so kind, was all one needs to make their day better.

So no matter how many issues you think you have, there are always those who have a little more.

rustyp 04-11-2023 08:54 AM

$35000 to landscape that little strip of land which is really not visible to anyone other than from the parking lot to prevent golf cart parking. Wonder how much it would have cost to pave over that postage stamp area and stripe it for golf carts only. Having golf carts parked in an orderly line like a cruise night is something I would enjoy more than that little strip of grass. To me it would add to the ambience of the area and reinforce the fact that we are a golf cart community. Don't start - I did not say pave paradise and put up a parking lot.

VApeople 04-11-2023 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2206267)
reinforce the fact that we are a golf cart community.

As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Sure, a lot of people have golf carts, but the law does give them any special rights. They have their own paths and bridges where I cannot drive my car, but every time one of their paths intersects the road where I am driving, they have a stop sign.

rustyp 04-11-2023 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206280)
As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Sure, a lot of people have golf carts, but the law does give them any special rights. They have their own paths and bridges where I cannot drive my car, but every time one of their paths intersects the road where I am driving, they have a stop sign.

Darn another lie told to me by my real estate "sales agent" .

Bill14564 04-11-2023 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206280)
As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Sure, a lot of people have golf carts, but the law does give them any special rights. They have their own paths and bridges where I cannot drive my car, but every time one of their paths intersects the road where I am driving, they have a stop sign.

Which makes me wonder how to complete this sentence:

The difference between the Villages and a golf cart community is _________

Normal 04-11-2023 10:32 AM

There NEVER EVER WAS AUTHORIZED parking on the grass. Everyone who parked there kind of knew that and were semi conscious of the issue. The Villages and CD knew about the situation well beforehand, but it was advantageous to wait till the snowbirds left. The delay permitted businesses to take root and establish clientele. The timing was impeccable for all.

tophcfa 04-11-2023 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206280)
As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Hmmm, I don’t know that. See the sign on Morse Blvd. that says welcome to the Villages, a golf cart community!

Papa_lecki 04-11-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206280)
As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Ohhh, for sale the two golf carts in my garage -
didn’t realize we weren’t a golf cart community.

EviesGP 04-11-2023 11:36 AM

Now that we've solved this issue, can we get the CDDs to pave some parking lots next to all the greens on the golf courses?!

Bilyclub 04-11-2023 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206280)
As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Sure, a lot of people have golf carts, but the law does give them any special rights. They have their own paths and bridges where I cannot drive my car, but every time one of their paths intersects the road where I am driving, they have a stop sign.

Hmmm.

Altavia 04-11-2023 12:39 PM

And now have to pay to maintain it.

Adding paving has complications previously explained by GoldWingnut but wonder what the cost to dig up the sod and replace with gravel may have been...

Normal 04-11-2023 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2206323)
And now have to pay to maintain it.

Adding paving has complications previously explained by GoldWingnut but wonder what the cost to dig up the sod and replace with gravel may have been...

Ya, because there is gravel everywhere in the Villages?

VApeople 04-11-2023 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2206290)
The difference between the Villages and a golf cart community is _________

That is a very good question and I am curious what answer will be given.

As for myself, I have no idea because I have never lived in bona-fide "golf cart community".

Dotneko 04-11-2023 01:47 PM

The rusted looking boxcar is an eyesore imo. Glad my house is far away and I dont have to see it regularly. The only thing missing is graffiti painted on it.
The line of golf carts was cute and it saved the real spots for the cars.
I have bicycled by there when they were parked and did not see the issue.

Golf carts park on the verge all over the Villages. Next to the golf course on 466a and Morse there are usually a half dozen carts with people watching play.
Below 44 on Meggison on the way to Brownwood there are carts parked where people pick up the walking paths by St Johns. On Morse below Havana CC there are people parking to walk their dogs. None of these spots is a designated parking area.
This is selective enforcement at Sawgrass.

fdpaq0580 04-11-2023 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206329)
That is a very good question and I am curious what answer will be given.

As for myself, I have no idea because I have never lived in bona-fide "golf cart community".

Per the sign on post #90, you have been living in a golf cart community and never knew it. SURPRISE!!

"OH happy day. OH happy day. When I first drove, drove my golf cart away."

fdpaq0580 04-11-2023 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2204671)
Sorry, but your issues are the same for many in a retirement community. If you have someone with you the best walker can drop off.

Yesterday at lap lanes, I parked next to a WW2 guy getting out of his cart. He could barely walk, but was heading in to swim. He didn’t park next to the sidewalk or entry, but in a non handicap spot.

I said take your time, I will get a lane for you. I took the closest lane, sat down and waited. I waited 11 minutes before his smiling face arrived at the lane. I thanked him for his service to our country, and gave him my lane. Saving lanes is not allowed, but I could give up my lane and it was an honor.

After he finished I took the lane, yep I had to wait, but his smile when he left and a thank you for being so kind, was all one needs to make their day better.

So no matter how many issues you think you have, there are always those who have a little more.

Thank you very much for the kindness, courtesy and respect you showed to one of the few remaining from our WWII veterans. Decency is not dead! You give me hope for the future.

JMintzer 04-11-2023 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206280)
As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Sure, a lot of people have golf carts, but the law does give them any special rights. They have their own paths and bridges where I cannot drive my car, but every time one of their paths intersects the road where I am driving, they have a stop sign.

If you say so...

https://i0.wp.com/www.roamingabout.c...2/DSC05573.jpg


Damn! Broke my own rule! Didn't finish the thread before posting...

VApeople 04-11-2023 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2206348)
Per the sign on post #90, you have been living in a golf cart community and never knew it.

Is that one sign all it takes to be a certified 'golf cart community'?

JMintzer 04-11-2023 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206367)
Is that one sign all it takes to be a certified 'golf cart community'?

How 'bout this?

The Villages - Top Golf Cart Community in the US - GolfCarts.org

The Villages - The Largest Golf Cart Community in the World | Golf Cart Resource

https://www.**************.com/2021/...art-community/

Bogie Shooter 04-11-2023 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 2206340)
The rusted looking boxcar is an eyesore imo. Glad my house is far away and I dont have to see it regularly. The only thing missing is graffiti painted on it.
The line of golf carts was cute and it saved the real spots for the cars.
I have bicycled by there when they were parked and did not see the issue.

Golf carts park on the verge all over the Villages. Next to the golf course on 466a and Morse there are usually a half dozen carts with people watching play.
Below 44 on Meggison on the way to Brownwood there are carts parked where people pick up the walking paths by St Johns. On Morse below Havana CC there are people parking to walk their dogs. None of these spots is a designated parking area.
This is selective enforcement at Sawgrass.

I like the boxcar…….

VApeople 04-11-2023 04:33 PM

None of those articles specified exactly what it takes to be a so-called 'golf cart community'.

North of Route 44, there are some paths where cars are prohibited but golf carts are allowed, so maybe that area could be called a 'golf cart community''.

But south of Route 44, there are many more miles of paths where golf carts are forbidden but bikes are allowed, so maybe that area should be called a 'bicycle community'.

fdpaq0580 04-11-2023 04:33 PM

Thanks for your support! Sincerely, Fred

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-11-2023 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2206374)
I like the boxcar…….

I'd like it much better if it had a garden gnome on the platform and a tacky pink flamingo displayed through the window.

rustyp 04-11-2023 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206376)
None of those articles specified exactly what it takes to be a so-called 'golf cart community'.

North of Route 44, there are some paths where cars are prohibited but golf carts are allowed, so maybe that area could be called a 'golf cart community''.

But south of Route 44, there are many more miles of paths where golf carts are forbidden but bikes are allowed, so maybe that area should be called a 'bicycle community'.

OK - so we can have an intelligent conversation with you please point us to

1- the criteria of what a golf cart community are (and souce)
2 - a concrete example of one that has earned the distinguished designation

Google has finally failed me. In fact most google responses were The Villages was the number 1 golf cart community in the WORLD.

Facts:
Sign -1 point
Irrational Bantor - 0 points

rustyp 04-11-2023 06:43 PM

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VApeople 04-11-2023 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2206400)
OK - so we can have an intelligent conversation with you please point us to

1- the criteria of what a golf cart community are (and souce)
2 - a concrete example of one that has earned the distinguished designation

See my response in post #93.

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206329)
That is a very good question and I am curious what answer will be given.

As for myself, I have no idea because I have never lived in bona-fide "golf cart community".


Bill14564 04-11-2023 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206329)
That is a very good question and I am curious what answer will be given.

As for myself, I have no idea because I have never lived in bona-fide "golf cart community".

You don't know what a golf cart community is but you know this is not one. OK then, why is the Villages NOT a golf cart community?

tophcfa 04-11-2023 08:19 PM

No more parking on the grass at Sawgrass, time to rename it Sawasphalt.

Dotneko 04-11-2023 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2206374)
I like the boxcar…….

Well, it looks like my life came full circle. As a kid, we were made fun of because we lived near 'the tracks' - a railroad yard about a half mile from my house. Here i am again living near the tracks - about a half mile away. When we bought and were told about sawgrass being built we did not know it was a downscale venue. Nobody asked me about decorating it.

fdpaq0580 04-11-2023 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 2206420)
Well, it looks like my life came full circle. As a kid, we were made fun of because we lived near 'the tracks' - a railroad yard about a half mile from my house. Here i am again living near the tracks - about a half mile away. When we bought and were told about sawgrass being built we did not know it was a downscale venue. Nobody asked me about decorating it.

Awww! That is so sad. Someone needs a hug.😊

VApeople 04-11-2023 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2206409)
OK then, why is the Villages NOT a golf cart community?

Because there is nothing special about owning and driving a golf cart. It is just one more method of transportation.

We residents drive trucks, golf carts, bicycles, cars, and motorcycles to get where we want to go. The Villages is no more a 'golf cart community' than it is a 'motorcycle community".

coffeebean 04-11-2023 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206423)
Because there is nothing special about owning and driving a golf cart. It is just one more method of transportation.

We residents drive trucks, golf carts, bicycles, cars, and motorcycles to get where we want to go. The Villages is no more a 'golf cart community' than it is a 'motorcycle community".

What makes The Villages a "golf cart community" is the infrastructure which allows golf cart access to just about anything you would want or need in your daily life. What community in the world, other than The Villages, has golf cart access to over 100 restaurants, medical facilities of all types, and all sorts of retail stores? I'll answer that: NONE. The infrastructure in The Villages includes MMPs, diamond lanes in the smaller roadways, golf cart bridges and golf cart tunnels.

The Villages is most certainly a golf cart community.

Bill14564 04-12-2023 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206423)
Because there is nothing special about owning and driving a golf cart. It is just one more method of transportation.

We residents drive trucks, golf carts, bicycles, cars, and motorcycles to get where we want to go. The Villages is no more a 'golf cart community' than it is a 'motorcycle community".

In my signature block I list five places I have lived. In exactly one of those places am I able to drive a golf cart down the middle of many streets. It is the same place where several of the streets marked with a lane for golf carts. It is the same place where golf cart paths are provided along the streets on which I am not allowed to drive my golf cart. It is the same place where golf-cart-only tunnels and bridges have been built to connect the golf cart paths on opposite sides of major highways. In exactly one of those five places am I likely to see more golf carts parked at an event than trucks, bicycles, cars, and motorcycles combined.

That is certainly not a legal description but if it doesn't make the Villages a golf cart community then I can't even begin to imagine what would. You call it what you like, I'll continue to enjoy life in my golf cart community.

rustyp 04-12-2023 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2206365)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2206409)
You don't know what a golf cart community is but you know this is not one. OK then, why is the Villages NOT a golf cart community?

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206376)
None of those articles specified exactly what it takes to be a so-called 'golf cart community'.

"If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...it must be a duck"

tophcfa 04-12-2023 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2206456)
"If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...it must be a duck"

End of discussion, the Villages IS a golf cart community. And that’s the 16th hole at Tierra Del Sol across the street in the above picture.

Bay Kid 04-12-2023 07:52 AM

I know this is a golf cart community because I don't have a car here, but I still get to everything I need.

VApeople 04-12-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2206427)
What makes The Villages a "golf cart community" is the infrastructure which allows golf cart access to just about anything you would want or need in your daily life.

I can get to those same places in my car, my truck, on my bike, or on my motorcycle.

Does that make The Villages a "truck community"?

Papa_lecki 04-12-2023 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206509)
I can get to those same places in my car, my truck, on my bike, or on my motorcycle.

Does that make The Villages a "truck community"?

Well, literally, every place in the country with a road is a car/truck community.
Not every place is a golf cart community.

Bill14564 04-12-2023 08:02 AM

And with that, another troll is added to my ignore list.

rustyp 04-12-2023 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2206509)
I can get to those same places in my car, my truck, on my bike, or on my motorcycle.

Does that make The Villages a "truck community"?

Good luck - if this place were not a golf cart community those "truck" roads would turn into giant parking lots.


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