[DrMack]

We are purchasing in Dabney and are very excited! There is a major concern though. I have read some threads here and we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages? We would like to take care of our new home and don’t necessarily want to to step into that kind of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by DrMack

We are purchasing in Dabney and are very excited! There is a major concern though. I have read some threads here and we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages? We would like to take care of our new home and don’t necessarily want to to step into that kind of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.

You are wise to have the major concern articulated. I would strongly suggest that you, and other prospective homebuyers, make your concerns abundantly clear to your Property of the Villages sales representative. Hopefully the message will get through loud and clear to the entity with the clout and resources to do something about the ever growing short term rental problem in the Villages. Best of luck with your home search.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by DrMack

We are purchasing in Dabney and are very excited! There is a major concern though. I have read some threads here and we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages? We would like to take care of our new home and don’t necessarily want to to step into that kind of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.

If you have been reading the threads then you would know that there are no protections. The developer does not care. The deed restrictions are worthless. It is a growing problem. We had one in our neighborhood but many of us filed complaints and the woman finally sold her house. There is nothing stopping another one from cropping up though.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by DrMack

we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages?

No.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

You are wise to have the major concern articulated. I would strongly suggest that you, and other prospective homebuyers, make your concerns abundantly clear to your Property of the Villages sales representative. Hopefully the message will get through loud and clear to the entity with the clout and resources to do something about the ever growing short term rental problem in the Villages. Best of luck with your home search.

Excellent suggestion

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by DrMack

We are purchasing in Dabney and are very excited! There is a major concern though. I have read some threads here and we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages? We would like to take care of our new home and don’t necessarily want to to step into that kind of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.

Every new village that opens has more than normal rentals. Some buy prior to retirement, and usually rent high season to offset cost.

Abnb is becoming a problem in some areas. To complain to your agent or the Villages is waste of time. Especially since some of those rentals may or may not belong to VLS agents.

Where you will find less and less rentals, are in long established neighborhoods. With the occasional rental due to an illness or just age.

Each neighborhood we moved to had rentals for 3-5 years, dwelling each year

[Papa_lecki]

Even if it was a restriction, which I dont know of any area where it is, it’s an internal restriction, and enforcement won’t happen.

Agree on the comment on established area. We moved into an established neighborhood, all full timers, great neighborhood

[rustyp]

There is no such thing as short term rental not allowed in TV. You can do a couple things that may hedge your bet against being in a neighborhood with an above average amount of short term rentals.
- Buy a preowned home. You can scout out the neighborhood and try to talk with neighbors before buying. You also avoid the latest fade of corporations buying for the purpose of renting the homes out.
- If buying new avoid Villas. These are the cheapest new build homes in TV and many owners already own homes in TV and are purchasing for for income investment.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Rentals are both the boon and the bane of The Villages. If you have a good neighbor for a tenant, then you're luckier than being stuck with a creep as a permanent resident-owner. If you have a lousy short-term tenant, you can feel comfortable knowing that it's just short term, and the next one might be better. If you have a terrific short-term neighbor tenant, you might feel a loss when the average "meh" property owner comes back to stay during snowbird season.

My neighbor rents her place out using AirBnB. She vets the tenants and so far, she's done a good job of it. I would MUCH prefer having consistency in neighbors. How can you be friendly to someone you meet the third day after they arrive, and they're gone two days later? What's the point in even trying to develop a friendship?

A landlord who allows short-term tenants, for a long period of time, isn't any better. I never see them, I only see their tenants. Why would I want to make friends with them, if their house never has them actually living in it?

On the other hand, you could be stuck with a long-term tenant who's there for a few years, who you can't stand. In that case I'd probably prefer the 1-week-stay guy who keeps to himself, isn't friendly, but also doesn't put the trash out three days before trash day.

On the other OTHER hand - you could end up with a homeowner living in their house next door to you, who puts their trash out three days before trash day - and when you mention it in a kind, neighborly way, they get an outdoor cat and sprinkle freeze-dried fish on the property line every week, JUST to annoy you.

so - it's not the fact that people rent that determines whether your neighbor will be a good neighbor or not. It's how long they're staying, combined with how well they integrate with the rest of the neighborhood.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

You are wise to have the major concern articulated. I would strongly suggest that you, and other prospective homebuyers, make your concerns abundantly clear to your Property of the Villages sales representative. Hopefully the message will get through loud and clear to the entity with the clout and resources to do something about the ever growing short term rental problem in the Villages. Best of luck with your home search.

Isn't this somewhat contradictory since the Developer is likely one of the largest short term rental agents in The Villages with its Lifestyle Visit rentals?

[ThirdOfFive]

I don't know if the possibility of rentals would dissuade me from buying. We bought used three years ago, and on our block there are two rentals that I know of. Both properties are better-kept than a couple of properties where the owner lives on premises.

This probably isn't an uncommon phenomenon though. People use forums like this to vent, so it is a possibility that the "problem" of rentals is more apparent than real.

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Every new village that opens has more than normal rentals. Some buy prior to retirement, and usually rent high season to offset cost.

Abnb is becoming a problem in some areas. To complain to your agent or the Villages is waste of time. Especially since some of those rentals may or may not belong to VLS agents.

Where you will find less and less rentals, are in long established neighborhoods. With the occasional rental due to an illness or just age.

Each neighborhood we moved to had rentals for 3-5 years, dwelling each year

You may have seen on the other thread that I have not taken the side of STRs are all bad, etc. However, I thought the thread of sharing the concerns with the villages agent, and actually not buying a house because of STRs was an excellent idea. If those who are adamantly against STRs did that, affecting the sales of homes, I think that is an outstanding way to influence things with the developer. I would bet the agents talk to each other and pass up the line obstacles to selling in the villages. If that became a significant obstacle, I believe TV would address it. But, not saying that would be quick, or even that it is the best way to address their concerns. But it is one way to get TV to support you rather than fight you.

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Rentals are both the boon and the bane of The Villages. If you have a good neighbor for a tenant, then you're luckier than being stuck with a creep as a permanent resident-owner. If you have a lousy short-term tenant, you can feel comfortable knowing that it's just short term, and the next one might be better. If you have a terrific short-term neighbor tenant, you might feel a loss when the average "meh" property owner comes back to stay during snowbird season.

My neighbor rents her place out using AirBnB. She vets the tenants and so far, she's done a good job of it. I would MUCH prefer having consistency in neighbors. How can you be friendly to someone you meet the third day after they arrive, and they're gone two days later? What's the point in even trying to develop a friendship?

A landlord who allows short-term tenants, for a long period of time, isn't any better. I never see them, I only see their tenants. Why would I want to make friends with them, if their house never has them actually living in it?

On the other hand, you could be stuck with a long-term tenant who's there for a few years, who you can't stand. In that case I'd probably prefer the 1-week-stay guy who keeps to himself, isn't friendly, but also doesn't put the trash out three days before trash day.

On the other OTHER hand - you could end up with a homeowner living in their house next door to you, who puts their trash out three days before trash day - and when you mention it in a kind, neighborly way, they get an outdoor cat and sprinkle freeze-dried fish on the property line every week, JUST to annoy you.

so - it's not the fact that people rent that determines whether your neighbor will be a good neighbor or not. It's how long they're staying, combined with how well they integrate with the rest of the neighborhood.

I think we have been on opposite sides of a vast number of threads. I want to take this wonderful opportunity to share that I think your post is one of the best posts on the topic that I have read.

[njbchbum]

If you want to know if the folks where you plan to live are full-time residents or not, you can check the tax records to find out if the residence and mailing address are the same. If different than you know the house might be a rental or the folks are just snowbirds. You can also check rental and airbnb sites against the addresses.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

You may have seen on the other thread that I have not taken the side of STRs are all bad, etc. However, I thought the thread of sharing the concerns with the villages agent, and actually not buying a house because of STRs was an excellent idea. If those who are adamantly against STRs did that, affecting the sales of homes, I think that is an outstanding way to influence things with the developer. I would bet the agents talk to each other and pass up the line obstacles to selling in the villages. If that became a significant obstacle, I believe TV would address it. But, not saying that would be quick, or even that it is the best way to address their concerns. But it is one way to get TV to support you rather than fight you.

The only way the developers would take notice is if they stopped selling hundreds of homes every month. That may happen in 20 years.

You realize almost every person that has moved to TV has rented for at least one day, up to years. We rented then bought house 1, 2, and 3 as investment properties. So again as long as homes sell, there will be rentals.

Durning the pandemic there was a clause in your contract that you could not rent out your home due to shortage of homes. Didn’t work, people still rent per them