I will be happy to pay for the convenience of not needing to use any card.

I thank you for your time and effort to make life just a bit easier for us Villagers. I appreciate your gumption.

I appreciate all of the comments made in this thread and especially yours as I would hope everyone is trying to make this place an even better place to live in during our late years in life. District staff is impressed by the interest show in this thread. Again, they are good people working for us and will try to accommodate improvements to the systems if feasible. So, I am hopeful that everyone will end up happy in this great place called the Villages.

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what were you discouraged from doing??
:shrug:

How the first statement "also means" that "The Villages has no obligation to make sure "cloned cards" will continue to work nor supply any sort of "support" to continue their usage." escapes me...

And this thread has nothing to do with someone's "side gig"...

We pulled up so close we scraped the tires. The "hold it up to the window" trick does NOT work with our cards...

The mirror chip works if the tires are a foot or so away from the curb...

The solution should be the one to lower costs for everyone.
Best savings: That would be no gates at all.
2nd best: If doing thigs the old way is really adding some warm and fuzzy benefit, make them work like the exit gates. That's next lowest cost because: No buttons. No cards, No new systems. No staff salaries to administer the system. No costs for new hardware, computers and ongoing yearly maintenance. Fewer broken arms to repair.
Worst thing: Spend $270k to replicate something that has zero actual value. Spend our money to do all the things that the first 2 solutions can avoid. Spend even more to "enhance" the system so it behaves like the exit gate arms. Seems like a huge waste of OUR money.

Then why would you post this?

"You need to pull close enough to the card reader."

You can't pull up any closer than when your tires are scraping the curb...

Great response... But of course it was not what I was responding to.

I was responding to your comment that they should do away with all gates and just make golf carts wait...

Put a chip in your mirror... I've yet to find a gate where that doesn't work...:icon_wink:

:22yikes: Did they put up those gates AFTER you moved here or did you NOT notice them and how they worked?

Or another possibility could be that people move here because they love how things are done and then once here enjoy complaining about things????? I can't figure it out.....:shrug:

You might not feel this "best" if you get rammed by some bozo entering their village at 50 mph.

Well, when I moved in, our gate was still in construction mode and essentially worked like the exit gates with no card or button press required.

I was "hopeful" they were changing to this method in the new areas.

Get rid of these gates...what are they here for? To protect golf carts?
Golf carts should be only on a golf course...thats why they are called GOLF carts.

& to protect walkers, runners, roller-bladers, segwayers.

So let's get rid of everything and everyone.

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Yeah, right. You did know this is a golf cart community???

:what:

The Developer thought otherwise...

https://i0.wp.com/www.roamingabout.c...2/DSC05573.jpg

You lost me here. Don't quite know what you are referring to.

Good that the mirror chip works for you. I've never had one installed on our vehicle so will just continue to use the card.

I get it. Your card does not work through the window even if you are on top of the card reader. I just read a couple of posts ago that you scraped your tires trying to get the card reader to work through the window. My comment to pull close to the card reader was several posts ago.

I would love to use the chip in the mirror but hubby and I have one car and he does not want to have the chip installed. Oh well, he won that one. I really don't mind having to put the card up to the window but it surely would be nice not having to do that.

Oh no, no, no. You cannot be serious. Many people here use their golf carts as their main mode of transportation here in The Villages. That is what makes this community so unique. Our infrastructure is fantastic and one of a kind in the world to accommodate golf cart transportation to so many restaurants, doctors, retail stores, pharmacies and all sorts of stuff that people go to on a daily basis. The MM Paths is what makes our community special.

I really don't understand why people think it's such a hardship to use the card. Are y'all the wicked witch of the west, that you melt when exposed to water - when it's raining? Do you never take showers, or go to the pool? Or wash your faces or hands? Are you afraid your custom-woven virgin raw silk upholstery in your Rolls Royce will get bleached if you have to roll the window down on a sunny day, long enough to stick a card out and pull it back again?

I mean - what kind of obsessive compulsive disorder or phobia must one have, to be SO averse to using a gate card to get through a gate, in a community where the advertisement shows that there are gates, that people use cards to get through? Why in the world did you move to the Villages at all, if this is so profoundly offensive to your sensibilities that the very thought of using a gate card to get a gate open sends your mind spiraling into rage?

It's a gate. It's a card. It's not a big deal. The [religious] Space Lasers aren't going to come out of the card and steal your soul like the cameras in the microwave ovens do.

Such silliness.

Thanks. We needed a HAHA now. HAHA! 😄😃

I don't have a Rolls Royce, I have a Hyundai and the seats are plastic/vinyl? When the rain comes in the seat gets slick, so when I hit the breaks I slide onto the floor. So embarrassing! 😡

Make your own tag clones for under $25.
Get the following from Amazon.
HENA 125KHz Card Programmer, Upgraded Handheld RFID Reader Writer Duplicator Copier
ARONGTECH 125khz rewritable T5577 Sticker Coin Adhesive Back Dia 25mm Thickness 1mm

You can read your own card and write coin sized chips.
This will work with all the gates in the villages and I used them to clone my card and tested it in many gates.
This sort of access card can be made secure with passwords encoded on the card during manufacture of the chip and by writing a password on the chip during initial programming. I don't think that this was done and maintained over the 20 years that these cards were issued. I guess we'll all know the answer to that question in a year or so when the project is done.

I used to keep mine in my wallet. That meant I had to dig out my wallet from my back pocket every time I wanted to used it.

And people complain when they're stuck behind someone digging out their card...

Have you seen people drop them when reaching out the window? I have. It's a comedy of errors watching them try to pick up the card since they can't get out of their car...

IIRC, there was a days long thread about a "nasty" gate attendant who didn't run out and pick up someone's card who had dropped it on the ground...

But just clip it to the visor! Okay, what to I use when I'm in a different car?

You're right... Complaining that people don't want to use the card is such silliness...

After doing that once, I put a small lanyard on the card ;-)

I loved the driver who smacked the red button with her hair brush :-)

I've seen some folks with a lanyard for their card. I figured that was why the card has that hole in the top near the edge. I keep mine in the back of my cell phone. The phone goes in the change shelf in the car when I'm driving that, or in the phone-holder in the golf cart when I'm driving that. So I never have to dig for it. I never go anywhere without my phone.

Can you still charge your phone on the pad charger with cards on the back?

I found it to be a problem with my phone...

You do know you can move the card from car to car or even to the golf cart. Another option is to get additional cards.

or simply push the little red button

Apparently you haven't read the whole thread. They are updating the system and are not stating if the current cloned stuff will still work with the new system.

I'm sorry:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I found it easier to get the mirror chip...

Good thing we have choices, isn't it?

Yes but the new gate readers are supposedly eliminating the cloned cards from working. Sounds like the Villages only wants the given cards to work.

This is technically unlikely unless all cards are replaced..

Pushing the red button as well as waving your gate card is easy enough, However people with the duplicate in the mirror don't have to roll down the window to do it....that's the reason people are upset.

Envy?