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i am guessing you would need the ask the plastics guys if they have need for you, i am not sure we could help you with an answer
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Graciegirl it is very very easy to look up thing on google Nurse Practitioner vs Physician Assistant: What so now you will know. - I am not knocking you, but sometime the fact are better then "I think" -- Love you, Graciegirl
Facts can be skewed to benefit an argument. The link seems a bit biased to the NP profession. As a parent of both an RN and PA, I realize both professions provide an important role and they will continue to play a critical part in our health care delivery service. However, my issue with the link is it provides a broad brush definition to roles and responsibilities of two respectful professions that may differ from state to state. As an example, in MA, PA's can have their own practice as long as they have an MD associated with that practice ( MD does not need to be in the same building, town, city or county ) and PA's now get the same insurance rate as an MD. Also, I have not met a PA practicing who does not have a Masters in Physicans Assistant Studies. Again, these are two admirable professions that, at times, provide similar services. Their roles and education, however, may differ depending where you are. If you are happy with your NP or your PA, then great. In my experience, I have received health care from both and it has been positive. My point is to be careful when you are presented with a link that may present skewed or less than accurate information.
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I'd go to you SuzieQ. Do you know if they need orthodontists?
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I participated in community assessment meetings conducted by Lake County Public Health this past year. As the group discussed the need for more primary care providers it was reported that a number of specialist (plastics, psychiatry, rhumatology,urology and gyn) had opened and closed their practices near the Villages in the past few years. The conclusion was that sustainable practices were difficult because of the number of snowbirds that get their care "up north" . It was also felt there was an overstaturation of certain specialties in this market.
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Since I haven't yet made the final decision to move to TV, I have to admit that I don't know what specialities are represented and which are not. As far as orthodontics, I would think even "mature" folks would want straight pretty teeth. So it DEPENDS on how many may have practices there already.
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Facts can be skewed to benefit an argument. The link seems a bit biased to the NP profession. As a parent of both an RN and PA, I realize both professions provide an important role and they will continue to play a critical part in our health care delivery service. However, my issue with the link is it provides a broad brush definition to roles and responsibilities of two respectful professions that may differ from state to state. As an example, in MA, PA's can have their own practice as long as they have an MD associated with that practice ( MD does not need to be in the same building, town, city or county ) and PA's now get the same insurance rate as an MD. Also, I have not met a PA practicing who does not have a Masters in Physicans Assistant Studies. Again, these are two admirable professions that, at times, provide similar services. Their roles and education, however, may differ depending where you are. If you are happy with your NP or your PA, then great. In my experience, I have received health care from both and it has been positive. My point is to be careful when you are presented with a link that may present skewed or less than accurate information.
You are correct with respect to education and state requirements. In our state you were required to be a BSN (RN) for several years before taking masters classes to become an NP. And then to pass grueling national boards. Also in my state you may have an independent practice. In the case of Florida, I am in the process of finding out the requirements. Regardless of my choice, I sure appreciate all the input from everyone.
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Graciegirl it is very very easy to look up thing on google Nurse Practitioner vs Physician Assistant: What so now you will know. - I am not knocking you, but sometime the fact are better then "I think" -- Love you, Graciegirl
I did look it up just now and I was correct in that in Ohio nurse practioners must practice under the direction of a licensed physician.

So this obviously varies from state to state.

Ohio Nurse Practitioner Certification
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Strange dental folks? How about a little more detail there? Thanks.
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I wish you luck in whatever way you decide to go. I am a licensed Esthetician and have been in the business for 30 years. I have had 2 job offers since I moved here one year ago and I did give it some thought. You would do very well here with your experience, either on your own (if legal) or in a doctors office. Now that we are here one year, I can honestly say, why would I ever want to work again! As long as you can afford not to work, give it a try. I can afford not to work, but I am a go getter and that is the part that bothered me about not working, plus I am 57 years old and I had it in my mind that I should be working. There is not enough hours in the day for me now to actually fit in a job, but this is all my decisions about keeping busy. Today I have to get my house in order (its been awhile since I had time), go up to Spanish Springs to Kings Gallery and pick up some pictures, go shopping to Sam's, meet friends in Sumter Landing for a drink, fit in dinner and eventually get back home. I golfed this past Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and no golf today, golf on Thursday, cards on Friday and then back to golf on Saturday (BTW-I only started playing golf last September-Yes I am addicted)....I just love my life, my new friends and The Villages!!!!!!
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Facts can be skewed to benefit an argument. The link seems a bit biased to the NP profession. As a parent of both an RN and PA, I realize both professions provide an important role and they will continue to play a critical part in our health care delivery service. However, my issue with the link is it provides a broad brush definition to roles and responsibilities of two respectful professions that may differ from state to state. As an example, in MA, PA's can have their own practice as long as they have an MD associated with that practice ( MD does not need to be in the same building, town, city or county ) and PA's now get the same insurance rate as an MD. Also, I have not met a PA practicing who does not have a Masters in Physicans Assistant Studies. Again, these are two admirable professions that, at times, provide similar services. Their roles and education, however, may differ depending where you are. If you are happy with your NP or your PA, then great. In my experience, I have received health care from both and it has been positive. My point is to be careful when you are presented with a link that may present skewed or less than accurate information.


My point is to be careful when you are presented with a link that may present skewed or less than accurate information.[/QUOTE]

Also, I have not met a PA practicing who does not have a Masters in Physicans Assistant Studies.
Also be careful of people who give advise based on there own experience which may not always be accurate http://www.sa.sc.edu/oppa/files/2011...l-Programs.pdf


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I didn't know a person who is not an M.D. could do those sorts of things without direction from an M.D. Correct me if I am wrong. A nurse practioner is the same as a physicians assistant and they have a PHD in nursing?

We didn't have Nurse Practioner's practicing on their own in Ohio.

We were just talking about how different medicine is here last night. That is the ONE thing I am disappointed about in the TV area, lack of really GOOD doctors as I knew them in Cincinnati and the very strange dental folks here too.

If you find an excellent doctor, you are on a waiting list for 18 months.
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I did look it up just now and I was correct in that in Ohio nurse practioners must practice under the direction of a licensed physician.

So this obviously varies from state to state.

Ohio Nurse Practitioner Certification
A nurse practioner is the same as a physicians assistant and they have a PHD in nursing?
"Wrong"

We didn't have Nurse Practioner's practicing on their own in Ohio.
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most states require a COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP with a MD.
so--if you meant totally alone you are "right"
if you meant their "own practice" then you are "wrong"
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[quote=nitehawk;545313][/I][/U][/B]

My point is to be careful when you are presented with a link that may present skewed or less than accurate http://www.sa.sc.edu/oppa/files/2011...l-Programs.pdf


O.K. I don't mind at all being wrong, and I frequently am. I was wrong about phd. I meant masters in nursing.Our next door neighbor in Ohio is a nurse practictioner at Cincinnati Childrens. I still say that in Ohio a nurse practioner couldn't just sit up a business on her own with a NP degree and license. But then again...how do the visiting nurses go out and nurse?

Am I wrong on that one?


The irony of this is that one of my very closest friends in the world right here in The Villages is/was a physicians assistant from Buffalo, New York and we never ever discussed this. I still don't know if NP and PA are the same thing.

Nitehawk...I am going to just post this link again about NP IN OHIO not being able to work except under the direction or business relationship of a licensed M.D. I THINK that is what it says...am I wrong?
Ohio Nurse Practitioner Certification

Nitehawk if you are right and I am wrong on this I am gonna think I am married to ya. I can be so sure of a point and my sweetie and I go back and forth and he always is right at the end.

Nitehawk, I respect you mightily and I am learning from you.
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My point is to be careful when you are presented with a link that may present skewed or less than accurate http://www.sa.sc.edu/oppa/files/2011...l-Programs.pdf


O.K. I don't mind at all being wrong, and I frequently am. I was wrong about phd. I meant masters in nursing.Our next door neighbor in Ohio is a nurse practictioner at Cincinnati Childrens. I still say that in Ohio a nurse practioner couldn't just sit up a business on her own with a NP degree and license. But then again...how do the visiting nurses go out and nurse?

Am I wrong on that one?




The irony of this is that one of my very closest friends in the world right here in The Villages is/was a physicians assistant from Buffalo, New York and we never ever discussed this. I still don't know if NP and PA are the same thing.

Nitehawk...I am going to just post this link again about NP IN OHIO not being able to work except under the direction or business relationship of a licensed M.D. I THINK that is what it says...am I wrong?
Ohio Nurse Practitioner Certification

Nitehawk if you are right and I am wrong on this I am gonna think I am married to ya. I can be so sure of a point and my sweetie and I go back and forth and he always is right at the end.

Nitehawk, I respect you mightily and I am learning from you.
Gracie you are always so gracious and compassionate - i am wrong most of the time -- sweetie is a lucky guy
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