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Old 03-05-2022, 08:23 AM
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Most of what was said in the article would survive a fact check. That doesn't mean it's not biased.
I'm not sure what the fascination is among the writers and documentarists with this place to constantly paint the same picture over and over again. The only conclusion I can come to is that the fascination has its genesis somewhere in the concept that old people are supposed to be meek, mild, sedentary, and above all, chaste. Old people should, if they are fortunate enough to avoid a nursing home with baby food dribbling down their chins, at least have the decency to stay at home, on the sofa, watching "Days of Our Lives".
Dear God, it's bad enough to think of our parents having sex, but really? Our grandparents? EEEYewwww!
I've yet to read one that shows the 80 year old neighbor out every night on her trike, with her dog in the basket. Getting exercise, meeting her neighbors. Interacting in a healthy way with other grayhairs. I've yet to read one that spends more than the slightest off-hand lip service to the healthy aspects of a social life, and access to physical activities that abound here.
I've met many who have come here for the golf, and the pickle, the music, the dancing, and all of the social opportunities here.
I've never met one person who said they came here because they needed to be with white people who shared their particular political beliefs. Not one.
I actually have neighbors who did move here for the “whiteness” & politics. But hopefully they have found other reasons to enjoy life here.
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Old 03-05-2022, 08:48 AM
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I actually have neighbors who did move here for the “whiteness” & politics. But hopefully they have found other reasons to enjoy life here.
I, too, have neighbors who moved for the same reasons, three of them. One in my immediate area and two just around the corner.

My neighborhood is very conservative, but quietly so, no discussion of politics or religion; no flags or stickers on cars. However, I do know that they are not happy to see the neighborhood becoming more political.
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Old 03-05-2022, 08:50 AM
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OK, let's see:

The reporter hung out at City Fire and interviewed the president of the Democratic Club----hardly a complete picture. He cites 4 instances of apparent voter fraud that may be the only 4 Republicans to defraud the system, EVER, as opposed to the thousands of dead people who manage to vote every election for you know who.

He cites the wacko woman who yelled "white power", but no mention of the total nut job who has been arrested multiple times for stalking a Trump supporter

He referred to TV as a "MAGA circus"



Here's another excerpt:
"Even seniors who have no business driving anymore zip around like teenage joy riders, say
residents. Crashes are not uncommon, and visitors are warned to watch out for bad drivers — and drunk ones. One afternoon during my
visit, Marsha Shearer, a board member for the Democratic club, emails that a friend and fellow board member had witnessed a doozy of a
wreck by what appeared to be a highly intoxicated driver. “She was also an anti-vaxxer and a very belligerent Trumper who kept
screaming over and over again ‘I’m not vaccinated’” and cursing President Biden
, the friend, Sue Dubman, reported. The police
eventually came to deal with the mess."

And this one:
"And for years, the community has fought its reputation (based in
part on a 2008 book) as a den of sexual iniquity, where seniors get jiggy in golf carts and S.T.D.s run rampant."

Or this:
"Here, baby boomers still reign supreme, in a place that caters to some of their most self-absorbed, self-indulgent impulses. "

He even managed to work in the myth of "climate change" into his article

Now, please tell me how this article was not biased again.
For those readers who don’t know where the garbage about STDs came from, somewhere before 2008, a scurrilous British gossip rag, similar to the National Enquirer in this country, blared the news (partially correct, actually) that STDs in The Villages had gone up 50%. As this titillating gossip was too good to pass up, it was picked up and passed on like a nasty infection around the world, and it continues to infect newspapers.

The TRUTH is that the number of cases of ONE STD, gonorrhea, reported by law to the county health department, did go up 50% in ONE MONTH, years ago. But it went up FROM TWO CASES TO THREE CASES, which is indeed 50%. What was NOT mentioned was that cases in surrounding cities generally number—adjusted for size—at least TEN TIMES HIGHER! The truth is that sexual transmission of diseases is exceedingly low in The Villages. It’s true that urinary tract infections are pretty common, but they are ones due to medical issues, not sexual transmission.
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Old 03-05-2022, 08:59 AM
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...There's nothing about "churches" that equates to goodness.

The volunteer part I'll agree with. I'm a volunteer as well.
While churches and religions have more than their fair share of twisted, crooked manipulators running and staffing them, they are generally filled with congregations FULL of ordinary citizens, your neighbors, who are at least trying to make an effort to self-critique and improve themselves and their community. Success rates vary, like in everything else. Still, the internal effort to improve should be lauded thus there is something about churches that equates to goodness.

Those that have given up on that do not find themselves going to church at all, I mean, why bother making the effort if you don't want to.

By the way, regarding your volunteerism:

Go Vols!!
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I actually have neighbors who did move here for the “whiteness” & politics. But hopefully they have found other reasons to enjoy life here.
"I actually have neighbors who did move here for the “whiteness” & politics."

In our various rentals, we have come across many who have expressed the exact same sentiments. Playing as a single walk-on, it often doesn't take before the third tee box for one of the other players to allude to the same thing. I'm not afraid to mention, that I don't share their views and that we should just concentrate on playing golf.
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Who reads the toilet paper times?
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Old 03-05-2022, 09:14 AM
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Who reads the toilet paper times?
About 6.5 Million paid subscribers, plus all of those who read it without a subscription. With 132 Pulitzer prizes (and counting), it has more than any other organization.
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Old 03-05-2022, 09:29 AM
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About 6.5 Million paid subscribers, plus all of those who read it without a subscription. With 132 Pulitzer prizes (and counting), it has more than any other organization.
If they only practiced responsible journalism and kept opinion pieces separate from news articles.
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I actually have neighbors who did move here for the “whiteness” & politics. But hopefully they have found other reasons to enjoy life here.
In one word……sad
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If they only practiced responsible journalism and kept opinion pieces separate from news articles.
If they did that then what, they would have more than 132 Pulitzer prizes? It seems they must be doing something right.

How would you have them separate opinion pieces? What if they placed the word "Opinion" immediately above the headline?
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Old 03-05-2022, 09:51 AM
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Like any opinion piece, it's written to get clicks and eyeballs. We just bought a home in TV for snowbirding after our 7 day lifestyle visit.
Granted it was only 7 days. But we did talk to lots of people young and old. Never once did politics enter a conversation.

We're 65 and 66 and are registered republicans here in Indiana, simply because you can only register as a rep or a dem.. But we consider ourselves independents and would register that way if we could. I think the TV will continue to be a great place, but it will moderate over time as the older baby boomers attrition out.
We like newer music, running, mountain biking and staying fit and acitve. We aren't stuck in the past. I like to spend my time looking out the windshield and not the rearview mirror.
I do admit, more diversity in TV would be nice, but it needs to happen organically.

Every community has it's warts. You just have to find what fits you the best. We're looking forward to spending winters there. But if at some point we feel it's not for us, we'll sell our house and move. Life is full of choices.
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Old 03-05-2022, 10:00 AM
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About 6.5 Million paid subscribers, plus all of those who read it without a subscription. With 132 Pulitzer prizes (and counting), it has more than any other organization.
Still a rag trying to skew the world into what their version of the world should be.
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Old 03-05-2022, 10:04 AM
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While I am in the camp that believes the NYT to be a left-wing propaganda fish wrapper, this particular article is somewhat even handed and mostly factual from my perspective. I didn't see anything that got my hackles up.
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Old 03-05-2022, 10:31 AM
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If they only practiced responsible journalism and kept opinion pieces separate from news articles.
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If they did that then what, they would have more than 132 Pulitzer prizes? It seems they must be doing something right.

How would you have them separate opinion pieces? What if they placed the word "Opinion" immediately above the headline?
You mean like this :
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Old 03-05-2022, 10:42 AM
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You mean like this :
If they identify their opinions as such no problem.

However when I look at what they choose to be the news I find it skewed to the world as they wish it to be.
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