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Old 02-26-2021, 05:18 PM
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We've just bought a Stetson III model with a "Galley Kitchen". That label seems to be code for, "Food should just magically appear at the table and the person preparing it need not be part of any pre-meal conversations unless he or she is shouting".

Ok, that's a bit harsh, but I do the cooking!

We have seen the very similar Amarillo model and the open kitchen with an island is quite appealing. Has anyone done the Stetson (or other) kitchen reno where you take down the kitchen walls that adjoin the living and dining room areas? There are a couple of light switches that would need to be relocated and of course, there will be an impact on the flooring.

If you had a good (or perhaps more important) bad experience with the reno, please share .

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Old 02-26-2021, 06:07 PM
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Why didn't you just buy one with an open kitchen and save all the work?'
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Why didn't you just buy one with an open kitchen and save all the work?'
Maybe they love the location. Maybe they love everything about the house other than the kitchen being closed off. Maybe they got a great deal on it. All sorts of reasons why they might buy a house that isn't 100% perfect. What house is?

I plan to do some remodeling to both my kitchen and my master bath at some point. Why didn't I buy a house that didn't need remodeling? Because this one had so many things going for it.

To OP: There could be structural issues. (ie The wall you want to remove could be load bearing.) If so, it could be very expensive to do what you want. But it might not be load bearing. Good luck. If you do take down walls please take before and after pics and share with us!

Good luck!

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No idea but that ship seems to have sailed.
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OP stated just bought a Home, not politically correct to insult OP that he made a mistake in buying his home, that needs an upgrade.

OP yes in certain homes the wall can be removed, as long as not load bearing. Moving electrical isn’t a big deal for qualified contractors. Use search engine to get at least 3 estimates for good contractors others have been happy with
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We've just bought a Stetson III model with a "Galley Kitchen". That label seems to be code for, "Food should just magically appear at the table and the person preparing it need not be part of any pre-meal conversations unless he or she is shouting".

Ok, that's a bit harsh, but I do the cooking!

We have seen the very similar Amarillo model and the open kitchen with an island is quite appealing. Has anyone done the Stetson (or other) kitchen reno where you take down the kitchen walls that adjoin the living and dining room areas? There are a couple of light switches that would need to be relocated and of course, there will be an impact on the flooring.

If you had a good (or perhaps more important) bad experience with the reno, please share .
Call Sumter County Building department for a set of house plans, they should be able to email these to you. With these you can determine if any of the walls you want to remove are load bearing. Also these will give you good talking points for the several contractors you will be talking to. As you noted there will be floor concerns, IMHO I would check for matching tile NOW, or make alternative plans for the floor. I agree moving electrical should be easy. Take a look around to see if any water (or gas?) lines may be in the walls. If a sink is in the area, there may be a vent line in the wall, these may be difficult to eliminate, plumbing codes. If your ultimate rearrangement includes moving sink or other devices using water remember these water lines are in the foundation.
Good luck with your project.
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We have successfully opened up our lantana for the type of Kitchen concept you are asking about. Very happy with it. If you want to see before and after pictures please let me know.


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OP stated just bought a Home, not politically correct to insult OP that he made a mistake in buying his home, that needs an upgrade.

OP yes in certain homes the wall can be removed, as long as not load bearing. Moving electrical isn’t a big deal for qualified contractors. Use search engine to get at least 3 estimates for good contractors others have been happy with
Maybe the OP can answer the question that was not meant to be an insult but a simple question.
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We have successfully opened up our lantana for the type of Kitchen concept you are asking about. Very happy with it. If you want to see before and after pictures please let me know.


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I'd love to see the pics. Removing that wall would be awesome!
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Maybe they love the location. Maybe they love everything about the house other than the kitchen being closed off. Maybe they got a great deal on it. All sorts of reasons why they might buy a house that isn't 100% perfect. What house is?

I plan to do some remodeling to both my kitchen and my master bath at some point. Why didn't I buy a house that didn't need remodeling? Because this one had so many things going for it.

To OP: There could be structural issues. (ie The wall you want to remove could be load bearing.) If so, it could be very expensive to do what you want. But it might not be load bearing. Good luck. If you do take down walls please take before and after pics and share with us!

Good luck!

kathy
I’ve started this remodel on my sisters manufactured home, it had dated round kitchen, the wall between the living room and kitchen that wasn’t needed was removed. I wanted to do an open LR-DR-Kitchen. The picture shows the kitchen and wall before demolition. It should be finished in 4-5 days. If your not sure hire a contractor before attempting anything like this.
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OP stated just bought a Home, not politically correct to insult OP that he made a mistake in buying his home, that needs an upgrade.

OP yes in certain homes the wall can be removed, as long as not load bearing. Moving electrical isn’t a big deal for qualified contractors. Use search engine to get at least 3 estimates for good contractors others have been happy with
Are we actually that sensitive to be insulted because someone makes a suggestion.? No one said he made a “mistake”. I guess in todays society we have to pause, pick and choose our words and then be ready to apologize because someone might be offended?
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Call Sumter County Building department for a set of house plans, they should be able to email these to you. With these you can determine if any of the walls you want to remove are load bearing. Also these will give you good talking points for the several contractors you will be talking to. As you noted there will be floor concerns, IMHO I would check for matching tile NOW, or make alternative plans for the floor. I agree moving electrical should be easy. Take a look around to see if any water (or gas?) lines may be in the walls. If a sink is in the area, there may be a vent line in the wall, these may be difficult to eliminate, plumbing codes. If your ultimate rearrangement includes moving sink or other devices using water remember these water lines are in the foundation.
Good luck with your project.
Load bearing walls can be replaced with a steel column or two and an i-beam or wooden beam, as specified by a structural engineer, but it isn’t cheap. Will you be removing cabinets? A lot of buyers would be unhappy about not having enough cabinets. If you do have to put in posts and a beam, it’s easy to attach cabinets to them, or even open-backed shelves, leaving an area two feet high and the width between the columns for conversation. It’s just harder to see people or watch television from the kitchen. While you are at it, have your contractor install and large but ultra quiet exhaust fan to the outside, whether through the side wall or the roof. My kitchen has a microwave oven above the stove, and while it has an “exhaust fan”, that just blows the air in the cook’s face. It doesn’t exhaust it outside at all. So the smell of cooking broccoli or asparagus is blown all over.
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Old 02-27-2021, 08:28 AM
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We used Demetri Remodeling for our reno. Extremely good and reasonable. At one time they advertised as the Amarillo King because they remodeled so many Amarillos. They always have an ad in the Daily Sun. They give free estimates.
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Sorry I don't have recommendations for you, but absolutely agree about venting the stove to the outside. Don't let them con you into a charcoal filter that won't really do the job of a real fan that vents outside.
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It has always been a practice in TV that only outside walls are an issue, you can take down most inside walls.
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