[missyomama]

I love how they mark the cart paths for tree roots lifting the path. They use quick fade paint. I'm surprised no one has lost equipment riding over these, sort of, marked hazzards.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by DavidK

It depends on who you talk to. I was told there were no restrictions on the dress code at Sarasota Driving Range, which makes it friendlier to residents and visitors. Then I was told by another Sarasota Driving Range employee, that the same rules apply as those on the courses. It does not make sense.

How is requiring a collar on a shirt “friendlier”?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

They DO NOT require collared shirts. A nice tee shirt with no unpresentable graphics or sayings is acceptable; no “wife beater” shirts allowed.

Let's end this debate with THE FACTS: From Golfthevillages.com:
The following dress code is for all championship and executive golf courses, The Villages Golf Academy, driving ranges, warm-up nets and putting greens.
The acceptable golf attire includes, but is not limited to, the below:

Shoes must be worn at all times when on the golf courses. Tennis or golf shoes with soft spikes, or shoes with no more than a 1-inch heel, are mandatory.
Shorts or skirts must cover the majority of the thigh and may not be cut-off or have holes.
Denim pants are allowed.
No overall, tennis skirts, cut-offs, biking shorts, bathing suits or athletic exercise apparel.
Dress Code for Women
Fashion golf tops may be without a collar but should not expose the stomach and must have straps at least 2-inches wide.

Dress Code for Men
Shirts shall have a collar and sleeves. Turtle-necks or mock turtle-necks are acceptable. (Min. 1 1/4 inch collars.)

End of debate (although we all know that on TOTV it won't end it )

[JGibson]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Let's end this debate with THE FACTS: From Golfthevillages.com:
The following dress code is for all championship and executive golf courses, The Villages Golf Academy, driving ranges, warm-up nets and putting greens.
The acceptable golf attire includes, but is not limited to, the below:

Shoes must be worn at all times when on the golf courses. Tennis or golf shoes with soft spikes, or shoes with no more than a 1-inch heel, are mandatory.
Shorts or skirts must cover the majority of the thigh and may not be cut-off or have holes.
Denim pants are allowed.
No overall, tennis skirts, cut-offs, biking shorts, bathing suits or athletic exercise apparel.
Dress Code for Women
Fashion golf tops may be without a collar but should not expose the stomach and must have straps at least 2-inches wide.

Dress Code for Men
Shirts shall have a collar and sleeves. Turtle-necks or mock turtle-necks are acceptable. (Min. 1 1/4 inch collars.)

End of debate (although we all know that on TOTV it won't end it )

First- The pothole is getting worse and now requires two cones.

Second- How long ago was these rules written and do they need to be amended?

I can't wait for some transgender to step out on the course without a collar or sleeves and see how TV is going to handle it.

Separate apparel for genders is so outdated, antiquated and borderline discriminatory.

I guarantee you TV will cave to the rules when future generations filled with non-binary folks start moving into TV.

Some of these rules need to be revisited to be more inclusive to an ever changing society.

You may not like the changes in society and some of them don't make sense to me but nevertheless TV will need to change with the times.

Folks don't walk around in suits and top hats like the 30's anymore.

Even corporate offices have become much more casual in their attire requirements.

Lastly,
FIX THE DAM POTHOLE!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Let's end this debate with THE FACTS:

End of debate (although we all know that on TOTV it won't end it )

Originally Posted by JGibson

First- The pothole is getting worse and now requires two cones.

Second- How long ago was these rules written and do they need to be amended?

I can't wait for some transgender to step out on the course without a collar or sleeves and see how TV is going to handle it.

Separate apparel for genders is so outdated, antiquated and borderline discriminatory.

I guarantee you TV will cave to the rules when future generations filled with non-binary folks start moving into TV.

Some of these rules need to be revisited to be more inclusive to an ever changing society.

You may not like the changes in society and some of them don't make sense to me but nevertheless TV will need to change with the times.

Folks don't walk around in suits and top hats like the 30's anymore.

Even corporate offices have become much more casual in their attire requirements.

Lastly,
FIX THE DAM POTHOLE!

Like I predicted, quoting THE CURRENT FACTS FROM THEVILLAGESGOLF.COM did not end the debate

Post, meet brick wall.

PS: By all means, let's change all the rules for "transgenders". Pure insanity.

[JGibson]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Like I predicted, quoting THE CURRENT FACTS FROM THEVILLAGESGOLF.COM did not end the debate

Post, meet brick wall.

PS: By all means, let's change all the rules for "transgenders". Pure insanity.

The Pothole is still not fixed so there is no brick wall, just broken concrete.

Insanity is throwing a 9-year-old kid off the driving range over a stupid collar.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by JGibson

The Pothole is still not fixed so there is no brick wall, just broken concrete.

Insanity is throwing a 9-year-old kid off the driving range over a stupid collar.

You're right about the pothole, far too long.

So where would you draw the line on proper golf attire? Cut-offs? Daisy Dukes? G strings?
Golf is not the WWF or MASCAR, a little decorum, please.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

So where would you draw the line on proper golf attire?

Being required to wear long pants. Why in the world should anyone be required to wear long pants on a hazy, hot, and humid summer day during an outdoor sporting activity. Sometimes changing a totally ridiculous long time tradition is necessary. Also, since everyone seems to be hell bent on total equality these days, why is it that only women can golf in shirts with no sleeves or collars?

[edtherock]

Here is one other viewpoint about this pothole or depression. While the Laurel valley course was under renovation, they had many many concrete trucks come in to replace many concrete cart paths. But did they fix this one small depression that many people ride over everyday? Noooooo. Very poor planning.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You're right about the pothole, far too long.

So where would you draw the line on proper golf attire? Cut-offs? Daisy Dukes? G strings?
Golf is not the WWF or MASCAR, a little decorum, please.

Which is worse - a designer shirt with no collar with a nice pair of pants, or a baggy pair of dad jeans with a faded collared shirt? Seriously, I could never understand how they would allow jeans, yet come down on collarless shirts. And why is it okay for women to wear collarless shirts, and men not?

As far as that goes I look at some of the clown outfits on the golf course, and shake my head. John Daly comes to mind. Decorum? I think not.

My friend's husband ran into that a a driving range once. He had an expensive nice looking shirt on with a minimal rolled collar that didn't meet their "specs." They told him to put on a collared shirt. My female friend had an extra shirt in the car that was a size too small for her husband but he put it on to satisfy "the rules". Of course every time he made a golf swing the shirt rode up and showed off his belly. How stupid is that? Globally the sport of golf has been on the decline. Golf courses need to use a little common sense when it comes to a dress code if they want to keep people involved in the game.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by mickey100

Which is worse - a designer shirt with no collar with a nice pair of pants, or a baggy pair of dad jeans with a faded collared shirt? Seriously, I could never understand how they would allow jeans, yet come down on collarless shirts. And why is it okay for women to wear collarless shirts, and men not?

As far as that goes I look at some of the clown outfits on the golf course, and shake my head. John Daly comes to mind. Decorum? I think not.

My friend's husband ran into that a a driving range once. He had an expensive nice looking shirt on with a minimal rolled collar that didn't meet their "specs." They told him to put on a collared shirt. My female friend had an extra shirt in the car that was a size too small for her husband but he put it on to satisfy "the rules". Of course every time he made a golf swing the shirt rode up and showed off his belly. How stupid is that? Globally the sport of golf has been on the decline. Golf courses need to use a little common sense when it comes to a dress code if they want to keep people involved in the game.

There is an urban legend, true or not, about jeans. They were not permitted on the golf course until one day Gary Morse showed up to play in jeans. The starter told him he couldn't play, and in response he told him that as of that moment, jeans are allowed.

As far as golf being in decline, that is simply not true, it is actually gaining participants. The only facet that was ever in decline was private country club membership, due to the cost and the economy.

From Statistica: " In 2022, the number of people participating in golf in the United States reached 25.6 million, representing a slight increase on the previous year. It also represented the highest on-course participation in more than a decade."

Now, if anyone would like to present a source that states overall participation in golf is declining, this is their chance

[MX rider]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

There is an urban legend, true or not, about jeans. They were not permitted on the golf course until one day Gary Morse showed up to play in jeans. The starter told him he couldn't play, and in response he told him that as of that moment, jeans are allowed.

As far as golf being in decline, that is simply not true, it is actually gaining participants. The only facet that was ever in decline was private country club membership, due to the cost and the economy.

From Statistica: " In 2022, the number of people participating in golf in the United States reached 25.6 million, representing a slight increase on the previous year. It also represented the highest on-course participation in more than a decade."

Now, if anyone would like to present a source that states overall participation in golf is declining, this is their chance

The world has gone casual, whether you like it or not. They could allow t shirts but say no tank tops or cutoffs. Besides, they basically allow women to wear whatever they want, tank tops and yoga pants are common these days, and I'm fine with that. Especailly since we all basiacally own the executive courses.

I'm far less concerned about what people are wearing and much more concerned about pace of play, as well as people not fixing divots and ball marks.

As far as potholes, I'm surprised how many I see that have been there for while on the main roads, 466A, Bailey Trail and Odell come to mind.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MX rider

The world has gone casual, whether you like it or not. They could allow t shirts but say no tank tops or cutoffs. Besides, they basically allow women to wear whatever they want, tank tops and yoga pants are common these days, and I'm fine with that. Especailly since we all basiacally own the executive courses.

I'm far less concerned about what people are wearing and much more concerned about pace of play, as well as people not fixing divots and ball marks.

As far as potholes, I'm surprised how many I see that have been there for while on the main roads, 466A, Bailey Trail and Odell come to mind.

I don't recall offering my personal opinion on whether I like it or not. I was citing THE RULES. Even if someone favors a more casual golfing dress code, they don't get to MAKE UP THEIR OWN RULES. Complain to the tee time office, golf administration or start a petition if they want something changed.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

There is an urban legend, true or not, about jeans. They were not permitted on the golf course until one day Gary Morse showed up to play in jeans. The starter told him he couldn't play, and in response he told him that as of that moment, jeans are allowed.

As far as golf being in decline, that is simply not true, it is actually gaining participants. The only facet that was ever in decline was private country club membership, due to the cost and the economy.

From Statistica: " In 2022, the number of people participating in golf in the United States reached 25.6 million, representing a slight increase on the previous year. It also represented the highest on-course participation in more than a decade."

Now, if anyone would like to present a source that states overall participation in golf is declining, this is their chance

All sources available show that golf was on a decline worldwide, then golf play was up during the pandemic, because there were few options on things one could do safely around others. However, NPR quotes a study entitled Implications of the Rise and Decline of Golf. According to the study, Golf reached its peak around 2005 but then began to show a consistent annual decline in the number of players - a function of the high cost of playing, and the game's incompatibility with contemporary lifestyles. Then came the pandemic and golf rebounded for obvious reasons. At this point, there is nothing to suggest golf will not revert back to its previous declining numbers. Interestingly, Golf Digest had an article describing the mix of today's golfers - about 1/3 "golf" exclusively on driving ranges or putt--putt courses, 1/3 play on actual golf courses, and 1/3 do both. These are different types of players than what has historically permeated country club or 18 hole golf courses. And back to the topic at hand, no one would be surprised if this type of player didn't take kindly to being told to leave a putt-putt course or driving range due to the lack of a collared shirt.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by mickey100

All sources available show that golf was on a decline worldwide, then golf play was up during the pandemic, because there were few options on things one could do safely around others. However, NPR quotes a study entitled Implications of the Rise and Decline of Golf. According to the study, Golf reached its peak around 2005 but then began to show a consistent annual decline in the number of players - a function of the high cost of playing, and the game's incompatibility with contemporary lifestyles. Then came the pandemic and golf rebounded for obvious reasons. At this point, there is nothing to suggest golf will not revert back to its previous declining numbers. Interestingly, Golf Digest had an article describing the mix of today's golfers - about 1/3 "golf" exclusively on driving ranges or putt--putt courses, 1/3 play on actual golf courses, and 1/3 do both. These are different types of players than what has historically permeated country club or 18 hole golf courses. And back to the topic at hand, no one would be surprised if this type of player didn't take kindly to being told to leave a putt-putt course or driving range due to the lack of a collared shirt.

OK, let's try this again:

From Statistica: " In 2022, the number of people participating in golf in the United States reached 25.6 million, representing a slight increase on the previous year. It also represented the highest on-course participation in more than a decade."