[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

In that case, let me make everyone "aware":

Florida Statute 316.130 sec 4:

(4) "Where sidewalks are not provided, any pedestrian walking along and upon a highway shall, when practicable, walk only on the shoulder on the left side of the roadway in relation to the pedestrian’s direction of travel, facing traffic which may approach from the opposite direction."

MMPs are not highways, or even roadways. They're private non-vehicular multi-modal paths. Diamond lanes on public roads do apply, but the private MMPs that are off of the roads entirely do not.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by midiwiz

Last I checked there is no Florida law that states you have to face traffic. As for the rest I can definitely appreciate all the sarcasm in the posts! (by the way you left out the drinking part LOL)

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

In that case, let me make everyone "aware":

Florida Statute 316.130 sec 4:

(4) "Where sidewalks are not provided, any pedestrian walking along and upon a highway shall, when practicable, walk only on the shoulder on the left side of the roadway in relation to the pedestrian’s direction of travel, facing traffic which may approach from the opposite direction."

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

MMPs are not highways, or even roadways. They're private non-vehicular multi-modal paths. Diamond lanes on public roads do apply, but the private MMPs that are off of the roads entirely do not.

Do I need to clarify further, or is the sequence of posts sufficient????

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

MMPs are not highways, or even roadways. They're private non-vehicular multi-modal paths. Diamond lanes on public roads do apply, but the private MMPs that are off of the roads entirely do not.

Correct, so there are NO rules to follow why it a mess. some do what they want cuss there no rules of Road sense even when they drive/walk/ bike on road.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

MMPs are not highways, or even roadways. They're private non-vehicular multi-modal paths. Diamond lanes on public roads do apply, but the private MMPs that are off of the roads entirely do not.

O wait, I did find rules on path. MMP maybe privately owned but public can use.


Paths and multi-use trails accommodate various modes of transportation, each with its own set of rules and etiquette to ensure the safety and enjoyment of all users.
Here's a breakdown of the general rules:
Sharing the Path:
Keep Right, Pass Left: Slower traffic should keep to the right side of the path, while faster traffic should pass on the left.
Announce Your Presence: When approaching other users from behind, especially when passing, it's courteous to give an audible signal with your voice or a bell to avoid startling them and let them know you intend to pass.
Give Space When Passing: When passing, leave a comfortable amount of space (several feet) between yourself and the person you're passing.
Be Aware of Your Surroundings: Pay attention to other users and be prepared to adjust your speed or yield as needed.
Yielding:
"Wheels Yield to Heels": A general rule of thumb is that bicycles and other wheeled users should yield to pedestrians and slower-moving users.
Yield to Pedestrians on Sidewalks: In most places where allowed, bicyclists riding on sidewalks must yield to pedestrians and give an audible signal before passing.
All Users Yield to Horses: If you encounter horseback riders, step to the downhill side of the trail, communicate with the rider, and allow the horse to pass safely.
Downhill Traffic Yields to Uphill Traffic: When encountering other users on inclines, downhill traffic should yield to uphill traffic.
Yield to Emergency Vehicles: All trail users must yield to emergency vehicles.
Specific Rules for Different Modes:
Bicyclists:
Obey Traffic Laws: Bicyclists generally have the same rights and responsibilities as motorists on the roadway, except in specific cases like riding on sidewalks.
Use Bike Lanes When Available: In Florida, bicyclists are required to use designated bike lanes when available and when traveling slower than the normal speed of traffic.
Ride to the Right: When no bike lane is available, ride as close as practicable to the right-hand edge of the roadway or path.
Signal Turns and Stops: Use hand signals to indicate turns and stops to other users.
Don't Ride Abreast (with exceptions): Bicyclists on the road or in bike lanes generally should not ride more than two abreast, and single file when impeding traffic, but bike paths may allow more abreast riding.
Pedestrians:
Use Sidewalks When Provided: Walk on sidewalks when they are available.
Walk Facing Traffic (When no sidewalk): If there's no sidewalk, walk on the left side of the road, facing oncoming traffic.
Obey Traffic Signals and Crosswalks: Follow traffic signals at intersections and use crosswalks for crossing roads.
Don't Enter Road Suddenly: Do not step or run into the path of a vehicle suddenly, making it impossible for the driver to yield.
Electric Scooters:
Check Local Regulations: The legality and rules for electric scooters on paths vary by location, so it's important to consult local regulations.
Yield to Pedestrians: Always yield to pedestrians and give them plenty of space, especially on sidewalks or shared paths.
Consider Bike Lanes or Roads: Bike lanes or roads may be safer alternatives to sidewalks depending on local regulations and traffic conditions.
Animals:
Obey Leash Rules: Follow leash rules specified for the area.
Clean Up After Pets: Always clean up after your pet.
Respect Wildlife: Be mindful of wildlife and avoid disturbing them.
Know Where Dogs Are Permitted: Only bring dogs to designated dog-friendly areas.
Important Notes:
These are general guidelines, and specific rules may vary depending on the location and type of path (e.g., paved multi-use path, unpaved trail, etc.).
It's always recommended to check with local authorities or trail management for specific rules and regulations.
Safety is paramount for all users. Always be aware of your surroundings and be courteous to others to ensure a safe and enjoyable experience for everyone

[Kelevision]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Pedestrians are not allowed in RABs as far as I know.

There are lots of MMP roundabouts.

[gorillarick]

"If a golf cart is behind me, approaching the back of my bike and about to pass me, and I'm about to approach a pedestrian who is facing me and coming toward the front of my bike, WHO yields for whom? "

You should completely leave your lane to pass. Doesn't matter where the bike is in the lane (and it is stupid for bikes to hug the right side, you have a right to the entire lane).

Legal Answer: If you cannot safety pass, like a pedestrian is coming, THEN DON'T PASS. Common sense, courtesy, and the law.
btw: Florida LAW: Don't come within 3 feet of a pedestrian or cyclist. (some states it is 5 and 6 feet - should be here also)

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by gorillarick

"If a golf cart is behind me, approaching the back of my bike and about to pass me, and I'm about to approach a pedestrian who is facing me and coming toward the front of my bike, WHO yields for whom? "

You should completely leave your lane to pass. Doesn't matter where the bike is in the lane (and it is stupid for bikes to hug the right side, you have a right to the entire lane).

Legal Answer: If you cannot safety pass, like a pedestrian is coming, THEN DON'T PASS. Common sense, courtesy, and the law.
btw: Florida LAW: Don't come within 3 feet of a pedestrian or cyclist. (some states it is 5 and 6 feet - should be here also)

Which Florida statute requires 3 feet for a pedestrian?

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Which Florida statute requires 3 feet for a pedestrian?

I've heard of the 3-Feet For Safety campaign, and various states (including Florida, see link below) but only as it applies to bicycles and cars. I've not heard it was a law nor for intended for peds.

Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes
:

Online Sunshine

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by midiwiz

Last I checked there is no Florida law that states you have to face traffic. As for the rest I can definitely appreciate all the sarcasm in the posts! (by the way you left out the drinking part LOL)

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

In that case, let me make everyone "aware":

Florida Statute 316.130 sec 4:

(4) "Where sidewalks are not provided, any pedestrian walking along and upon a highway shall, when practicable, walk only on the shoulder on the left side of the roadway in relation to the pedestrian’s direction of travel, facing traffic which may approach from the opposite direction."

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

MMPs are not highways, or even roadways. They're private non-vehicular multi-modal paths. Diamond lanes on public roads do apply, but the private MMPs that are off of the roads entirely do not.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Do I need to clarify further, or is the sequence of posts sufficient????

First of all, THANK YOU for taking time to use the multi-quote feature, AND using it correctly. Broken quotes, copy/pasta, and responses to unknown posts, bug the heck out of me. So thank you.

Second - I was responding with respect given to the topic of the thread, which is pedestrians on MMPs. Unless otherwise specified, I assumed people were responding in kind.

As such - there is no Florida state law requiring pedestrians to face traffic on a privately owned MMP.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

First of all, THANK YOU for taking time to use the multi-quote feature, AND using it correctly. Broken quotes, copy/pasta, and responses to unknown posts, bug the heck out of me. So thank you.

Second - I was responding with respect given to the topic of the thread, which is pedestrians on MMPs. Unless otherwise specified, I assumed people were responding in kind.

As such - there is no Florida state law requiring pedestrians to face traffic on a privately owned MMP.

There are likely very few Florida laws that apply to a privately owned MMP. Another of those laws that DOES NOT apply would be the law that requires driving on the right-hand side of the road. It applies to public highways but not private MMPs yet I see no one arguing that since the law does not apply then they should drive on the left.

Perhaps in the case of Peds on MMPs the best and safest course of action would be to recognize that the MMP carries traffic and risks similar to highways so they should be approached in a similar manner. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's best to approach it as you would a duck until there is a reason not to.

Walk with traffic on the MMP if you insist, there is no law against it. Drive on the left on the MMP if you insist, there is no law against it. But at least acknowledge that you are going against common practices and putting yourself and others at risk.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

First of all, THANK YOU for taking time to use the multi-quote feature, AND using it correctly. Broken quotes, copy/pasta, and responses to unknown posts, bug the heck out of me. So thank you.

Second - I was responding with respect given to the topic of the thread, which is pedestrians on MMPs. Unless otherwise specified, I assumed people were responding in kind.

As such - there is no Florida state law requiring pedestrians to face traffic on a privately owned MMP.

That is correct. I was responding to a statement that there was no law requiring pedestrians to walk facing "traffic", I was not referring to MMPs

[JMintzer]

All I see on this thread are the "usual suspects" flexing their limited knowledge and using Google searches in failed attempts to "be right"...

Same as it ever was...

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

All I see on this thread are the "usual suspects" flexing their limited knowledge and using Google searches in failed attempts to "be right"...

Same as it ever was...

Consensus is there NO right or wrong on MMP. Do what we want, even walk backwards or if from England drive on left.

[Ruger2506]

Sums it up