[bdw08]

Originally Posted by rhood

Read this morning that The Villages uses 5000 dozen pickleballs in a year.
60,000 balls. How is that possible? Cost is $24 and change per dozen.

You don’t think they get a discount for buying in quantity?

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Laker14

Congratulations on your straw man argument.
The subject being discussed was pickleballs. I presented the math explaining how much it costs each resident of TV (approximately) to provide this amenity. An amenity that was in place when nearly all of us signed up to buy our homes in TV.

Your exaggerative examples don't apply for several reasons, one being that free running shoes, and free golf carts have never been included in the amenities package. You could, I suppose, go to the proper decision making authorities on what should be included in the amenity package, and present your arguments. I'm sure they'd be well received.

Applying sensible degrees of magnitude to our discussion, we can see that the cost of pickleballs is closer to the cost of the daffodils planted in the common areas, than the cost of free running shoes, or golf carts.

Perhaps they should also supply rackets?

Fishing lures for the fisherman?

Tires for bicyclists?

Do they supply tennis balls, for tennis players?

The order of magnitude isn't the issue, it's the judgement of those in charge. Like the $1,000,000 Lake Miona Walking Trail.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Perhaps they should also supply rackets?

I believe they do.

Fishing lures for the fisherman?

Tires for bicyclists?

Umm yeah, okay.

Do they supply tennis balls, for tennis players?

You must have missed posts #4 and #28 as you were reading through the previous answers.

The order of magnitude isn't the issue, it's the judgement of those in charge. Like the $1,000,000 Lake Miona Walking Trail.

I don't remember hearing you speak at the PWAC meeting where the trail was approved. The number is not $1M it is $726,000 (and if that difference is insignificant then can you please start sending me some of the insignificant change you have laying around the house?)

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Perhaps they should also supply rackets?

Fishing lures for the fisherman?

Tires for bicyclists?

Do they supply tennis balls, for tennis players?

The order of magnitude isn't the issue, it's the judgement of those in charge. Like the $1,000,000 Lake Miona Walking Trail.

Order of magnitude is everything. Some stuff makes sense, some doesn't. I don't know the precise machinations of how things were decided. Who decided it would be nice to plant flowers and have waterfalls, and who decides exactly how much money goes into the maintenance of executive golf courses, and how many courses there would be? Someone did at some point.
Anyone who plays executive golf in TV knows that the courses could be better maintained, and it would be grand to have more of them. Someone in charge decided that what would work for the community being designed, and the market for the homes in that community, would be what we have.
To those people, it made sense to have pickleballs supplied as part of the amenities package. I suppose everything is negotiable. Things are fluid and can be altered.
Perhaps it was decided that given the number of residents who play PB, and the relative cost of balls, it made sense to provide them. It makes sense to me, but then, I'm a pickleball player and I understand how difficult it would be if we all showed up with our own balls, of different type, during community play.
My breakdown of cost, per resident, was to illustrate that while the total number of balls, and cost may seem exorbitant, when broken down per household, it's minuscule.

If you don't see that your comparisons are ridiculous, perhaps, as I suggested before, you should go before the people who decide these things and try to convince them that we shouldn't be providing pickleballs, or we should be providing fishing lures.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by ronl911

This is a very naive response. Being both a golfer and an advanced pickleball player, I can tell you that there are many different types of pickleballs. The biggest differentiating factor is an indoor ball vs an outdoor ball. Then, within each of those 2 categories, there are many different "bounces/feels" to the various pickleballs available. Each brand of pickleball has a different feel, similar to golf balls. Some are rated for tournament play, and some aren't. The durability of the balls also varies. The pickleballs selected for play by The Villages are very durable. Why try to be an expert on a subject that you obviously have NO knowledge of?

For outdoor, open play (what the vast majority of players are playing), a pickleball IS a pickleball...

No one was talking about tournament play, or indoor play. But you knew that... You just wanted to belittle another poster...

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Pickleball club?

It's kinda like a lob wedge but maybe a little wider. Much better than pickleball paddles because you can reach out further...

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

For outdoor, open play (what the vast majority of players are playing), a pickleball IS a pickleball...

No one was talking about tournament play, or indoor play. But you knew that... You just wanted to belittle another poster...

I am not fussy about which ball I play, but I prefer not to change in the middle of a game.
Golf, on the other hand, I only play Pro V1s...I wish I was good enough to justify being so particular, but I'm not.
I took a 10 year layoff, started back up in 2012 and decided I would play only one ball. It's an expensive ball, but when you look at the big picture of how much it costs to play, it's not that much. I am not great (8.0 index) but I'm pretty straight so I don't lose a lot of balls. I just like the feel of that ProV1. Most of the time.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Laker14

I am not fussy about which ball I play, but I prefer not to change in the middle of a game.
Golf, on the other hand, I only play Pro V1s...I wish I was good enough to justify being so particular, but I'm not.
I took a 10 year layoff, started back up in 2012 and decided I would play only one ball. It's an expensive ball, but when you look at the big picture of how much it costs to play, it's not that much. I am not great (8.0 index) but I'm pretty straight so I don't lose a lot of balls. I just like the feel of that ProV1. Most of the time.

Give the Titleist tour soft balls a try. In my opinion a better ball than the Pro V1 for a senior golfer, and $35 per dozen versus $50.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Give the Titleist tour soft balls a try. In my opinion a better ball than the Pro V1 for a senior golfer, and $35 per dozen versus $50.

Are you suggesting that with my 85mph driver clubhead speed I don't need to hitting the same gall as Dustin Johnson?

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Perhaps they should also supply rackets?

Fishing lures for the fisherman?

Tires for bicyclists?

Do they supply tennis balls, for tennis players?

The order of magnitude isn't the issue, it's the judgement of those in charge. Like the $1,000,000 Lake Miona Walking Trail.

They supply some fishing equipment...

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Give the Titleist tour soft balls a try. In my opinion a better ball than the Pro V1 for a senior golfer, and $35 per dozen versus $50.

My favorite...

[rstebbins]

Do you really think they are paying $24 a dozen when they buy that many balls.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Laker14

Are you suggesting that with my 85mph driver clubhead speed I don't need to hitting the same gall as Dustin Johnson?

I’m suggesting they work very well for me, and over the last few years I have definitely lost a fair amount of clubhead speed.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by rstebbins

Do you really think they are paying $24 a dozen when they buy that many balls.

Yes

[Kenswing]

Wait until you see what they’re paying for coffee.