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Has anyone had any problems with the workmanship on drywall? A house that is 2 years old should not have the ceiling ready to fall apart at the seams. But the warranty department said sorry we will not fix it!!! Feel this is not fair, because we now have to pay to have it fixed. We would like to know how many others have had the same problem. Had a company look at it in which we were told that the builder who built our home has had several with the same problem. Sounds like poor workmanship to us!!!!
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Would you be willing to post some pictures so we can see how bad it is?

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Has anyone had any problems with the workmanship on drywall? A house that is 2 years old should not have the ceiling ready to fall apart at the seams. But the warranty department said sorry we will not fix it!!! Feel this is not fair, because we now have to pay to have it fixed. We would like to know how many others have had the same problem. Had a company look at it in which we were told that the builder who built our home has had several with the same problem. Sounds like poor workmanship to us!!!!
Well, please don't feel that you are alone. We have had a drywall problem or two with every single house we've ever built. And some that we didn't. It seems that proper drywalling is a lost art.
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Would you be willing to post some pictures so we can see how bad it is?

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Good idea. If you have trouble posting pictures we would be glad to help.
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I would like to see photos, or a better description as well. When you say "the ceiling is falling apart", what exactly do you mean?

I'm on my 3rd "new build" home, and it always seems to take a couple of years of settling before the nail-pops and hairline cracks in the drywall show up. It is usually an inexpensive cosmetic fix that wouldn't be covered beyond the one-year builder's warranty. However, if you believe that you have a more serious structural issue, then you certainly need to seek professional advice.
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I would like to see photos, or a better description as well. When you say "the ceiling is falling apart", what exactly do you mean?

I'm on my 3rd "new build" home, and it always seems to take a couple of years of settling before the nail-pops and hairline cracks in the drywall show up. It is usually an inexpensive cosmetic fix that wouldn't be covered beyond the one-year builder's warranty. However, if you believe that you have a more serious structural issue, then you certainly need to seek professional advice.
To be specific, it is the taped seams in the garage ceiling. Some of them are only craked but some are starting to come loose. The drywaller I talked to said they will eventually fall. He said the whole ceiling will have to be retaped and finished and then repainted. I think this is a little much for the warranty department to expect the home owner to have to redo when the home is only a couple of years old. The group that put the drywall up are out of business now. I was told that several of the homes they did had to be redone but happened within the first year. Sounds pretty suspicious to me.
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To be specific, it is the taped seams in the garage ceiling. Some of them are only craked but some are starting to come loose. The drywaller I talked to said they will eventually fall. He said the whole ceiling will have to be retaped and finished and then repainted.
Well the garage is not a conditioned space subject to the high humidity and heat swings, so it is more subject to have the Spackle absorb moisture dry out and crack.

Is it happening inside the house I imagine not.

What suspect may be the guy telling you the sky is falling.

I've taken drywall down, it isn't easy to rip down, so I doubt what you dealing with is only cosmetic....but I'm not looking at & U have no pics so that as much input as I can give you.
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I see, sorry to hear that. You probably don't have any recourse.
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If you go up in the garage attic you'll notice that where the sheetrock boards meet in the middle of the ceiling there is no rafter at the seam so it's an unsupported seam probably 22 feet long.. Besides that where they meet is also where the opening for the stairs is. add to that people sometimes put way to much stuff in the attic adding extra weight to an unsupported seam that is only taped. So all this considered the seam will crack. As another poster stated I doubt it will come down that easy. I've done many a renovation and it requires quite an effort.As for having it fixed the sem should be supported first then retaped and repainted. Unless it's sagging or actually coming down I wouldn't be to concerned.
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On the lanai ceiling, which appears to be the same as drywall, they typically use a product called soffit board. This is also what is used in the entryways. This is a gypsum product designed to be moisture resistant. IMHO, an un-insulated, non-air conditioned garage should have the same product installed.
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That's a bit overkill don't you think?

they use that in showers.

One thing that I thought of is there a possible water leak in the roof dripping into the ceiling
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Or too much weight on trusses not designated as "attic Trusses".
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Has anyone had any problems with the workmanship on drywall? A house that is 2 years old should not have the ceiling ready to fall apart at the seams. But the warranty department said sorry we will not fix it!!! Feel this is not fair, because we now have to pay to have it fixed. We would like to know how many others have had the same problem. Had a company look at it in which we were told that the builder who built our home has had several with the same problem. Sounds like poor workmanship to us!!!!
I would agree it seems that the contractor did a poor job and the Villages should fix the defect as they are the one that selected the contractor.

The wall boards should be nailed to the rafters so I can not see then falling down. If you end up doing the work yourself I would try putting some spackle under and over the tape (to hold the tape up), sand and paint.
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That's a bit overkill don't you think?

they use that in showers.

One thing that I thought of is there a possible water leak in the roof dripping into the ceiling
a number of states had a severe water intrusion problem in homes upward of $5 million. Restoration experts and engineers made strong recommendation to utilize only green boards in repairs and suggested that all homes should only be built with green board.

Now that's overkill.
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