[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

We bought two resales in TV. I agree with the above poster that you can do better financially on a resale over new. Plus getting a larger lot in a mature neighborhood, and a more central location.

However there is an emotional component to buying new. For many Wrinklies, their home in TV will be their last opportunity to buy new. There is an excitement in choosing a lot and being part of the creative process; of making choices and feeling the satisfaction of seeing a vision come to life.

Well said barefoot. Another point I would mention is that while many resales are clearly less expensive than new, not all resales meet that criteria. A lot depends on the location, as is always the case in real estate. We were tempted in March to pull the trigger on a brand new Wisteria in Sanabel that was fully furnished with Southern Lifestyles furniture that was exactly what we would pick for ourselves. The Price was reduced to $194k - you would not likely find an equivalent home furnished in the sames way (and the furniture would be used) for a better price on the resale market. As in all real estate situations you have to do your homework and not be overly influenced by trivial things - then make an educated choice that will best fit your needs and pocketbook for the long term.

[Quixote]

Could I please clarify that my original #1 post, except for the first two lines, was a QUOTE. I thought that was clear. I guess it wasn’t.

Could I also please clarify (not that I feel it makes much difference...), that the person I quoted, in describing some of the new construction in such a “charming” way, used a phrase whose initials would be “POC” rather than “POS.” Same number of letters, so four ****. Please remember that that was one person’s opinion and that I was quoting. That is not my view, though I felt the whole passage was worth sharing for, as others have said in postings, expressing one person’s opinion and conveying info that would not ordinarily be told to prospective buyers here.

A friend of a friend tells the story of taking his golf cart on CR-466 to Morse Blvd., passing the villas being constructed on the south side of 466 near Morse. He was going to Staples to pick up something. On his way there he saw the builders beginning to hoist roof trusses with a piece of heavy equipment for one of the houses. By the time he bought the item he needed and was on his way back, not only were the trusses completed, the entire roof was already enclosed in plywood sheathing. He estimated that from one observation to the next took about 45 minutes at the most.

For what it’s worth....

Here are two opposing viewpoints, and both are valid depending on one’s needs and feelings (and both phrased, I admit, a whole lot less "vivid" than my original quote which at that point was all I had to make the point):

eweissenbach: Well said barefoot. Another point I would mention is that while many resales are clearly less expensive than new, not all resales meet that criteria.A lot depends on the location, as is always the case in real estate. We were tempted in March to pull the trigger on a brand new Wisteria in Sanabel that was fully furnished with Southern Lifestyles furniture that was exactly what we would pick for ourselves.The Price was reduced to $194k - you would not likely find an equivalent home furnished in the sames way (and the furniture would be used) for a better price on the resale market. As in all real estate situations you have to do your homework and not be overly influenced by trivial things - then make an educated choice that will best fit your needs and pocketbook for the long term.

hdh1470: As stated before to each their own. For those on a tighter budget you can do much better on a resale. Today I saw a house in springdale listed for 189,000 bond bal 4500.maint 400 a yr. That new model would cost you 210,000 bond 23,000 and maint. about 1,000yr. Assuming you could buy for 180,000 that's almost 50k difference. Point being that those wanting a house they can't afford maybe you can. Also taxes are going to be a lot cheaper.

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by Quixote

For what it’s worth....

Here are two opposing viewpoints, and both are valid depending on one’s needs and feelings (and both phrased, I admit, a whole lot less "vivid" than my original quote which at that point was all I had to make the point):

eweissenbach: Well said barefoot. Another point I would mention is that while many resales are clearly less expensive than new, not all resales meet that criteria.A lot depends on the location, as is always the case in real estate. We were tempted in March to pull the trigger on a brand new Wisteria in Sanabel that was fully furnished with Southern Lifestyles furniture that was exactly what we would pick for ourselves.The Price was reduced to $194k - you would not likely find an equivalent home furnished in the sames way (and the furniture would be used) for a better price on the resale market. As in all real estate situations you have to do your homework and not be overly influenced by trivial things - then make an educated choice that will best fit your needs and pocketbook for the long term.

hdh1470: As stated before to each their own. For those on a tighter budget you can do much better on a resale. Today I saw a house in springdale listed for 189,000 bond bal 4500.maint 400 a yr. That new model would cost you 210,000 bond 23,000 and maint. about 1,000yr. Assuming you could buy for 180,000 that's almost 50k difference. Point being that those wanting a house they can't afford maybe you can. Also taxes are going to be a lot cheaper.

Just to clarify, I would argue that these are not opposing viewpoints. I said that SOME resales are clearly less expensive than new. I also said that a lot depends on LOCATION. Springdale, for better or worse, is a location that is not as valued on the resale market as other locations. Resale homes in the Northwest of TV seem to be priced at $10k to 20k less than homes in many of the areas, especially south of 466.

[gerryann]

This discussion came about by the original poster stating that someone purchased......

"this hideous brand new piece of **** for more money when she could have had this gorgeous Designer."

How can ANYONE else decide what is a POS? I'm sure that many of you have entered someone else's home as a guest and were floored by their furniture, their taste, their mess, etc, etc. Its THERE'S....not YOURS, so why would you think that they should have something else?

I just purchased a home in the Villages. I could have gotten it for about $30-40,000 less in a different neighborhood. Or, I could have purchased a resale for around $60,000 less. But that's not what I wanted. I wanted new and I wanted it where I bought it. That's not right OR wrong......it's not anyone else's decision, it's mine. I might think your car or your furniture is all a POS, but I wouldn't tell you that.....it's yours not mine.

There are a few closed minded people here on TOTV.

[graciegirl]

Quixote.

I too thought that the POS part was from you. I am relieved. I must admit it wrankled me.

Another valid point for buying a resale is to avoid what Happinow is facing that someone will build or plant something behind you that you may not like.

But to get back to Quixote. Quixote himself did not say the words that many of us took issue to in the very first post. That part was a quote from someone else.

This is where paying attention to little details pay off or misleads...however you want to read it.

Quixote is INNOCENT.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by gerryann

This discussion came about by the original poster stating that someone purchased......

"this hideous brand new piece of **** for more money when she could have had this gorgeous Designer."

How can ANYONE else decide what is a POS? I'm sure that many of you have entered someone else's home as a guest and were floored by their furniture, their taste, their mess, etc, etc. Its THERE'S....not YOURS, so why would you think that they should have something else?

I just purchased a home in the Villages. I could have gotten it for about $30-40,000 less in a different neighborhood. Or, I could have purchased a resale for around $60,000 less. But that's not what I wanted. I wanted new and I wanted it where I bought it. That's not right OR wrong......it's not anyone else's decision, it's mine. I might think your car or your furniture is all a POS, but I wouldn't tell you that.....it's yours not mine.

There are a few closed minded people here on TOTV.

Welcome to The Villages. Glad you are posting on TOTV, I enjoy a post that - tells it like it is.

[goodgrief]

It's a lot to pay for a lifestyle. And yes the bonds are nasty on new homes. Especially when you can put that bond money into a home. We were looking at resale but are currently looking at other retirement communities after being here in the villages a year. After all...you can go to LSL or SS without living here. Golf courses are no biggie and you have similar amenties, bigger homes, less cost in these other communities. Even a neighbor said they had wished they hadn't jumped and bought but spent the time to look around like us. But to each their own.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by goodgrief

It's a lot to pay for a lifestyle. And yes the bonds are nasty on new homes. Especially when you can put that bond money into a home. We were looking at resale but are currently looking at other retirement communities after being here in the villages a year. After all...you can go to LSL or SS without living here. Golf courses are no biggie and you have similar amenties, bigger homes, less cost in these other communities. Even a neighbor said they had wished they hadn't jumped and bought but spent the time to look around like us. But to each their own.

As you know there is a whole lot more to TV that going to the town squares. Right?

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by goodgrief

It's a lot to pay for a lifestyle. And yes the bonds are nasty on new homes. Especially when you can put that bond money into a home. We were looking at resale but are currently looking at other retirement communities after being here in the villages a year. After all...you can go to LSL or SS without living here. Golf courses are no biggie and you have similar amenties, bigger homes, less cost in these other communities. Even a neighbor said they had wished they hadn't jumped and bought but spent the time to look around like us. But to each their own.

I don't agree with you, and I have looked at some of the other retirement communities, but that is a personal opinion. You are absolutely entitled to yours. Good luck wherever you land.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Quixote.

I too thought that the POS part was from you. I am relieved. I must admit it wrankled me.

Another valid point for buying a resale is to avoid what Happinow is facing that someone will build or plant something behind you that you may not like.

But to get back to Quixote. Quixote himself did not say the words that many of us took issue to in the very first post. That part was a quote from someone else.

This is where paying attention to little details pay off or misleads...however you want to read it.

Quixote is INNOCENT.

bump

[goodgrief]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

As you know there is a whole lot more to TV that going to the town squares. Right?

Oh yeah, seen what is offered here. Seen what is offered elsewhere. Do like the security in some of the ones we looked at versus the slow down gates here. Actual ID and plate recorded of non residents. major +++

Its really how deep a person is willing to dig in their pocket books and what they want. And the level of living you want. Whether you want to pay for amenities or put the money into where you live. Our neighbor made the comment one day he's just been leaving his wallet on the dresser. Nothing left in it. Not saying the villages aren't a great place, but they are the 1000lb gorilla in the room. Everyone is going to compare everyplace else to it.

Like I said to each their own. But folks should know there are other options out there. We didn't when we first moved here.

We gave it some time. Will be giving it a little more till the lease runs out. Could still buy a resale here but it would have to fit the bill, but leaning the other way at the moment. Love our current neighbors and they wish we weren't going to move (to another home here or there).

[Opulence]

Originally Posted by goodgrief

Oh yeah, seen what is offered here. Seen what is offered elsewhere. Do like the security in some of the ones we looked at versus the slow down gates here. Actual ID and plate recorded of non residents. major +++

Its really how deep a person is willing to dig in their pocket books and what they want. And the level of living you want. Whether you want to pay for amenities or put the money into where you live. Our neighbor made the comment one day he's just been leaving his wallet on the dresser. Nothing left in it. Not saying the villages aren't a great place, but they are the 1000lb gorilla in the room. Everyone is going to compare everyplace else to it.

Like I said to each their own. But folks should know there are other options out there. We didn't when we first moved here.

We gave it some time. Will be giving it a little more till the lease runs out. Could still buy a resale here but it would have to fit the bill, but leaning the other way at the moment. Love our current neighbors and they wish we weren't going to move (to another home here or there).

I was wondering what other areas you are considering. They must be close by to still be able to visit the squares & take advantage of some things that TV has to offer. Would you mind sharing where you are looking?

Betty

[John_W]

Originally Posted by goodgrief

...Like I said to each their own. But folks should know there are other options out there. We didn't when we first moved here.

We gave it some time. Will be giving it a little more till the lease runs out. Could still buy a resale here but it would have to fit the bill, but leaning the other way at the moment. Love our current neighbors and they wish we weren't going to move (to another home here or there).

Have you looked at Timber Pines in Spring Hill? My parents were one of the first homeowners in 1984. The community is on 1200 acres, completely gated with a 6' wall. They have two 18 hole par 60 golf courses. You can own a cart and drive it on the street. It was built out about 1998 and you can buy a resale 2 BR 2 BR 2 car masonry rancher for less than $150,000. You can drive to Tampa in just 60 minutes.

I've been to Timber Pines many times and chose The Villages and just finished our first year anniversary here. Places like Timber Pines offer nothing inside the gate. You have a golf cart, but where can you drive it, to the club house, to the course, that's it. Everything else is on Hwy 19 in Spring Hill. Go check it out, and I bet you'll be back here rightaway. It's only an hours drive, go down I-75 exit Route 50 to Brooksville and continue to Hwy 19 turn south and you'll see it about 5 miles on the left across from Walmart.

[gerryann]

I can certainly understand folks wanting a different retirement community. I drove through many, but they seemed lonely...I don't know what else to call it. I know there are a lot of folks that want a relaxing, quiet home...a guiet lifestyle, home meals, etc. I don't think there's anything wrong with that and to boot...they'll save money on their homes. But for me personally...I want people, conversation, lots of resturants, bars, shopping, activities, and a safe place where I can walk my dog and meet other people.

Everyone needs to decide what's important to them. I'm not there yet, but I have spent a great deal of time in TV. Who knows.....maybe in a few years I'll be saying....I need a quieter life.....I don't think that will happen, but who knows?? So, keep us posted on what you find and what's out there.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by goodgrief

Oh yeah, seen what is offered here. Seen what is offered elsewhere. Do like the security in some of the ones we looked at versus the slow down gates here. Actual ID and plate recorded of non residents. major +++

Its really how deep a person is willing to dig in their pocket books and what they want. And the level of living you want. Whether you want to pay for amenities or put the money into where you live. Our neighbor made the comment one day he's just been leaving his wallet on the dresser. Nothing left in it. Not saying the villages aren't a great place, but they are the 1000lb gorilla in the room. Everyone is going to compare everyplace else to it.

Like I said to each their own. But folks should know there are other options out there. We didn't when we first moved here.

We gave it some time. Will be giving it a little more till the lease runs out. Could still buy a resale here but it would have to fit the bill, but leaning the other way at the moment. Love our current neighbors and they wish we weren't going to move (to another home here or there).

Thank goodness you are only leasing but on the plus side if you had bought, the houses are easier to sell here than nearly any place in the country right now.

Glad you still have your options open to move if you want to.